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CONFIRMED: PS4 Slim supports 5GHz wifi
- Thread starter Transistor
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The guy on twitter that owns one of these confirmed AC, but then again, it's twitter.
Valkyr Junkie
Member
Cool for those with APs in line of sight of their PS4s.
It will matter for people that use wifi and live in urban environments, as if you are getting interference and packet loss, then it's no fun for gamers.
pixellated_man
Member
Not for me. I regularly download 1gb+ files in a matter of minutes. Been like that since getting ps4 on launch day here in the UK. On 70 mb fiber optic connection, which I'm sure helps.
Too bad a lot of people don't get the speeds their connection delivers though.
BasedKiliK
Member
AC would be awesome, but overall speed would also depend on the number of antennae/streams. Though even if it didn't have AC, 802.11n over 5 Ghz alone is a huge boon, since it should take advantage of 40 Mhz channel width.
When I had my Xbox One, its maximum data rate on 5G was 300 Mbps, and speed tests through the Edge browser would show it damn near hit my data cap (we get about 130 Mbps down).
Interesting you say that. My PS4's wired to my bridged router and connection tests show consistent results of over 100 Mbps.
When I had my Xbox One, its maximum data rate on 5G was 300 Mbps, and speed tests through the Edge browser would show it damn near hit my data cap (we get about 130 Mbps down).
Interesting you say that. My PS4's wired to my bridged router and connection tests show consistent results of over 100 Mbps.
TimeEffect
Member
I bought a network adepter thing for my fat ps4. Lived a month on 2.4ghz hell, and my internet traffic was too slow/congested by other 2.4ghz channels in the area
For those on the fat ps4, there is hope. Im still a little sour that fat ps4 didnt have it, but the adaptor is great
For those on the fat ps4, there is hope. Im still a little sour that fat ps4 didnt have it, but the adaptor is great
protomouse
Member
The designs of the DS and PSP were probably finalized right around the time of 802.11g adoption. However, Nintendo did the right thing and added it to later revisions. Don't quote me on this, but AFAIK no PSP revision ever got Wireless-G support - not even the fucking digital-only PSP Go.
AmuroChan
Member
It certainly does if you live in an area like mine where PSN speeds are just fine.
CyberPunked
Member
Wow. The future is now.
powerline adapter over here the past few years, I'll never go back.
It's never too late for people to understand that the network speed ISPs advertise/offer are never guaranteed, or at least aren't guaranteed outside of the ISP's own network.
One could have a 1 Gbps connection and still couldn't get more than 10 Mbps from a given site, because the ISP's peering link involved in building up the connection between its network and the one the said server is hosted on is just bad and saturates.
Spiral Insanity
Banned
They are not fine in New York, unfortunately. KOF14 took 3 hours to download. Meanwhile I downloaded the new Deus Ex on Steam in 30minutes.
I download huge games in a couple hours. Small downloads take hours?
ethomaz
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Trogdor1123
Gold Member
I wonder if SATA 3 is going to come too.
MisterXDTV
Member
Exactly, it wouldn't make any sense to upgrade the wi-fi card from the original PS4 to support 5Ghz while NOT upgrading to wi-fi AC late 2016
metareferential
Member
Transistor
Banned
There are 5ghz N only cards
MisterXDTV
Member
Yes, but they are to be considered outdated by now on major consoles and premium electronics
ethomaz
Banned
Well I me by if it is 5Ghz of course it is N or AC.
Just people are asking if it is 5Ghz but supports N or AC??? Makes no sense.
MisterXDTV
Member
Well N is some kind new and better than AC
Just people are asking if it is 5Ghz but supports N or AC??? Makes no sense.
What? AC is way faster and newer than N
Funny because I don't see how it makes it more attractive when most either don't understand wireless in general giving out false and misinformation or no clue what 2.4 or 5gz and the difference up until your post.
Transistor
Banned
Yeah, I was confused by that comment as well
ethomaz
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MisterXDTV
Member
Wifi N: October 2009
Wifi AC: December 2013
PS4 released in November 2013 so it couldn't have had AC, but three years later I would be surprised if Sony doesn't upgrade for it
The Last Wizard
Member
Aww shit, neo is a confirmed buy for me now. Sony done did it:,)
If it has AC omg.
If it has AC omg.
Xbox One Released in November and it has dual band capability.
I'd love if most video games companies and gamers would deal with bufferbloat. Not using a packet scheduler these days is suicide if you value latency. The studies have been done yet most companies short of riot have done shit on the issue which pathetic cause fixing bufferbloat is a plus for all involved.
metareferential
Member
By the way, the 360 had 5ghz wireless in one of the revisions (the N adapter IRC), I thought the PS4 would have it by default (as the X1 does).
Sony cheaped out. xD
Sony cheaped out. xD
ethomaz
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Dual band means 2.4Ghz and 5Ghz...
There is no AC in Xbone like he said it was release after the console release.
Apple to oranges?
MisterXDTV
Member
Yes, but with the N standard only of course.
5ghz makes a much bigger difference with the new AC standard.
With the "old" N standard it helps because the 5ghz band is less congested so you get much cleaner signal (with shorter range). But it's not a huge difference in speed compared to 2.4 Ghz.
AC works only on the 5Ghz band and the speed boost should be significant
metalslimer
Member
Luckily my PS4 is next to my router so I just use ethernet, but I was surprised when it couldn't connect.
The speed boost should be equivalent to Ethernet. Anyone with a XB3 modem from Comcast should see the difference in speeds. If you run a speed test with a 75Mb package with 2.4 on average the speeds will be between 45-55Mb. 5gz AC will be 75-90.
You should probably put an asterisk and say if you are getting those speeds from ISP then you should notice. Otherwise you will only notice AC speeds within your own internal network once its goes on to the internet you will only have bandwidth as good as the host you're connecting too.
Here's a nice picture on the actual difference, doubt most will appreciate the bigger ones.
It's not just Maximum Speed/bandwidth that's important without better modulation, channels bandwidth or MIMO no way we could have AC.
Wireless and Wired should never be compared. Wireless is not duplex based. ethernet drivers also don't suffer from bufferbloat the same way, though wireless has had some great improvements to it in the last year or two on the subect.
MisterXDTV
Member
Yes, basically with 5Ghz AC almost everyone should theoretically max out their internet connection unless they have Google Fiber or something similar with 1 Gigabit download/upload
Still, wired ethernet is always the way to go, if you can.
Problem is PSN is often very slow and that has nothing to do with the actual wired/wireless connection of the console
Cc23830
Member
How is this possible. Im on 56mb Fibre in the uk and my ps4 downloads at 6mb a second ethernet connected.. argghhh
If this is that big a deal to anyone I have to ask why you aren't using a wired connection in the first place?
Sure the extra bandwidth might be nice but this isn't going to help you get a better multiplayer connection seeing as though you're still affected by wifi latency.
Maybe it'll help you download your ps plus games quicker?
Sure the extra bandwidth might be nice but this isn't going to help you get a better multiplayer connection seeing as though you're still affected by wifi latency.
Maybe it'll help you download your ps plus games quicker?
Yes, basically with 5Ghz AC almost everyone should theoretically max out their internet connection unless they have Google Fiber or something similar with 1 Gigabit download/upload
Still, wired ethernet is always the way to go, if you can.
Problem is PSN is often very slow and that has nothing to do with the actual wired/wireless connection of the console
This is also why no one should trust what their speeds say on the Xbox One or PS3, 4 or televisions. No way to control what server you are pinging to get an accuracy of speeds
Different ISP. Different routing tables. Different transit providers.
Internet is complicated.
metareferential
Member
Of all network services I use, PSN is definitely the worse: unreliable and inconsistent.
Every other service, be it on consoles or on pc (except Nintendo's which I don't use so I can't say) is definitely more reliable and faster.
The only service I can't use my full bandwidth (250mb) with is PSN. While I can download a 60gb game in half an hour even on uplay, a simple 3gb patch on PSN can be slow as hell.
Sony should update their store before caring about AC wireless xD
Cc23830
Member
This is my problem. I can download happily on any other system / Pc / tv streaming but my PS4 Is just useless.
The Xbox One S does have 802.11ac for sure.
New wireless networking protocol
In addition to wireless protocols 802.11 a/b/g/n dual band, the Xbox One S adds 802.11ac to its list of supported network protocols. If you have a wireless ac router, you can use that network to connect your Xbox One S to Xbox Live.
https://support.xbox.com/en-US/xbox-one/console/moving-from-original-xbox-one-to-xbox-one-s-console
New wireless networking protocol
In addition to wireless protocols 802.11 a/b/g/n dual band, the Xbox One S adds 802.11ac to its list of supported network protocols. If you have a wireless ac router, you can use that network to connect your Xbox One S to Xbox Live.
https://support.xbox.com/en-US/xbox-one/console/moving-from-original-xbox-one-to-xbox-one-s-console
To be complete assholes and taunt you about how they won't put in 5 GHz, unless you buy the Neo.Ha! Link broke for the second pic, had to fix it
"Frequency band in use" is a new section to that status page. Why would it exist anyways if multiple bands weren't supported?
Or because like you said they have 5 GHz in and they're not petty little assholes that way. That's for system updates to current PS4s.
The Last Wizard
Member
To everyone saying wired is better, we know. But not everyone has the ability to go wired, even the outlet things aren't compatible with all homes. Let us wireless folks enjoy an upgrade.