Nemesisuuu
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I'm talking about future Sony and MS strategy about bringing exclusives to PC. Not about games that everyone who really wanted to play played already on console.
And yes, I'd rather play them at 400fps than 30fps. lol
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Consoles will still lead in Industry Winning Graphics....
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And yes, I'd rather play them at 400fps than 30fps. lol
jigglet
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I don't get this obsession with exclusives. Yes they are important, and the reason I will continue to buy consoles (shock: some of us are happy to own all of them), but many games are multiplatform and that 30fps limit and 60fov limit are driving me fucking insane.
CrysisFreak
Banned
I'm sure you'll have a great time in 2024 (maybe) my dear PC kek.
bad guy
as bad as Danny Zuko in gym knickers
No. The new consoles will have nice CPUs this time but they are still the mobile versions. Nothing to be ashamed of.
anothertech
Member
Nemesisuuu
Member
I'm playing on both, but let's be real, 30fps can really be jarring at times. Let's not start about frame drops from 30fps. lol
DJT123
Member
Technically, that is available on PC. Cemu (Wii U emulation) and It obviously ended up being a better showcase than it was on the Nintendo consoles- barring the pros of Switch portability. You can KEEP those other games. Although Spiderman looks fun to be perfectly honest.
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@Bryank75 - you love baiting don't you. I"m convinced after today that you don't even believe your own BS. You just enjoy seeing people's reactions. I see you
That's ironic, coming from you of all people.
martino
Member
DJT123
Member
That's a Reshade mod, not real tracing... Incidentally, you can apply it to nearly every game you have on PC which contains a depth buffer.
i need an rt hardware soon.
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Shodan09
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With Microsoft and Sony releasing first party games for pc now we should get some really interesting direct comparisons.
Diddy X
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anothertech
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martino
Member
isn't this one using RT core ? how will it perform with a 1080ti ?
Vaelka
Member
BUT HOW CAN I SURVIVE IF A GAME IS ALSO ON PC!??!?!!?!?!?
PLEASE I SOLD MY CHILDREN AND MY PARENTS AND GRANDPARENTS TOO AND MY WIFE IS WORKING IN THE BROTHEL NEXT DOOR SO I CAN AFFORD MY PS4 I HAVE TO FEEL LIKE IT'S THE BEST!
WHAT WILL I DO IF PC CAN RENDER ALL 20K PORES IN THE FACE BUT MY PS4 CAN ONLY RENDER 10K!??????
I SWEAR IF GOW IS RELEASE ON PC I WILL SMASH MY PS4 AND SONY I WILL NEVER FORGIVE!
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DJT123
Member
No, it's not using fancy ray tracing hardware at all. It's just a ridiculously talented guy who wrote a fancy algorithm to try and replicate ray tracing I guess. Any old graphics card should do the trick. Cemu is well optimized at this point.
That Sony Marketing leaves a long tail.
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martino
Member
Great news i didn't took an interest in it because i assumed (and didn't verified) RTX hardware was needed.
Calverz
Member
Man these GPU’s completely blow away consoles. Like i mean, i dont even see how consoles will survive this? The GPU is so cheap too. Only a fool would would 100% dedicate to console now. I can PS5 games coming to pc now just like xbox. And they will look a lot better too!!
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Damigos
Member
Comparing pc and console specs is like comparing apples with oranges.
Consoles are dedicated closed specific hardware just for gaming and developers can optimize a lot.
PCs are used for a million things and specs are different even between pcs that cost the same. Since developers cant optimize like with consoles, PCs must have raw power.
What matters most of all are the games. Look at what Nintendo does
Consoles are dedicated closed specific hardware just for gaming and developers can optimize a lot.
PCs are used for a million things and specs are different even between pcs that cost the same. Since developers cant optimize like with consoles, PCs must have raw power.
What matters most of all are the games. Look at what Nintendo does
JimmyRustler
Gold Member
And this is news how? No one has made graphically stunning PC exclusive game that puts consoles into their place for more than a decade. PS5 exclusive games will be the most beauatiful games for years to come.
Tickrate
Member
I am of the opinion that picking a single side is so childish.
It's a bit cringe to see adults fight the Console war or be part of the PCMR circlejerk.
Unfortunately, these kinds of threads seem to attract both types.
Both sections of this industry bring innovation to which the other one reaps the benefits.
As a gamer, you get the luxury to enjoy both. Use it.
It's a bit cringe to see adults fight the Console war or be part of the PCMR circlejerk.
Unfortunately, these kinds of threads seem to attract both types.
Both sections of this industry bring innovation to which the other one reaps the benefits.
As a gamer, you get the luxury to enjoy both. Use it.
People tie themselves in knots to justify one gaming device. It's too expensive, despite gaming being a pretty cheap hobby. There's not enough time, despite having 5,000 posts on this forum.
I understand having one device or having a great PC and not feeling you need consoles, but it's the insecurity that is so sad to see.
ScaryBrandon
Banned
Nah apart from shoddy ports like horizon you can get equal performance on consoles and pc with low level modern APIs. Plenty of examples around like death stranding which actually performs better on pc hardware equivalent to ps4.
Cringeworthy thread deserves cringe tag
thelastword
Banned
You saw that Odyssey looked better than LOU from a youtube video?
This is a thread about consoles though, just that Sony makes the best looking games every gen. If XBOX matched them, they would be bundled up in the praise, but every year it's PS exclusives winning graphics if not GOTY's...That's the reality.
New MB, new GPU and perhaps to upgrade CPU and other parts not to bottleneck that system. A system is only as fast as it's slowest part. The cost is huge, people pretend that $700 is peanuts, $500 is peanuts, $1500 is peanuts, they are not.....It's only one part in a system where you need many other parts, including an expensive SSD that Nvidia is touting or a CPU that won't bottleneck that card. So if Nvidia has to use a much lower DLSS footprint to justify these prices, it's even worse value when people try to justify the TF increase over consoles, where the power is in effect only there to run console games at higher rez and frames, and even then, not the best console games at that, at least not in a hurry. They would have to wait years for those after years of part begging and imagining that Horizon 1 would look much better on PC than it's sequel on console. The sad reality is by the time PC receives Horizon 2, there would be several more iterations of these NV cards, with much more power. Several more thousands would have been spent....SO in essence in 2025, you would have persons anticipating a 120TF GPU talking about playing Horizon 2 at 16K and 120fps.....
Precisely, I have yet to see the PC gamers demand games targetting all the money they spend on high end GPU's or even second tier third tier like the 3070. The reality is, it's just not viable in this shaky industry. You need a cushion which consoles are. If you try this on PC it's a big risk. The Star Citizen guys could not get funding by publishers which is evident, so they went to gamers and so maybe PC gamers wanted something to show PC afterall, but the quality of the developer is important too. Look at how long Star Citizen has been in development. By the time the full release comes out it won't even be in contention for top twenty graphics.......It would have been left by the wayside by a number of games.....
And for the random comments about consoles being more powerful than PC, no one is saying that here, read the OP. Consoles have never been more powerful than PC. Consoles have just harnessed their limited powers much more impressively than PC has in the last 3 decades....
LittleBigGamer
Banned
Blue Spring
Read my tears about xbox here --->
Budgetary limits and talent play a more important role for graphical fidelity than sheer compute power. You will see a lot of PS5 exclusives looking better than most multiplats running on a 3090.
ScaryBrandon
Banned
I can't remember a single year that a console game had the best graphics. Console fanboys giving each other token awards means nothing.
Edit: Actually I do remember one year it was gears of war on xbox360 which was the graphics king for almost a year. It hasn't happened since then.
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LittleBigGamer
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HZD was only behind Zelda in 2017 as a GOTY contender. Above Mario Odyssey and persona 5. An Ubisoft wannabe? lol
lol
They didn't even show something of what this power can do. We saw some console-based games though. Hinting what is this all the fuss about.
Right now R&C next-gen is the king after Part2 graphically. I prefer to stay focus on the actual playable results. Numbers are just numbers.
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CrysisFreak
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AC Odyssey has one of the jankiest combat systems ever. It's real bad.
How anyone can prefer that bloated, morbidly obese mess to Horizon is beyond me but whatever floats your boat.
turtlepowa
Banned
The is no THE GOTY, there are dozens if not hundreds of awards. Odyssey is a 97/100 game, HZD a 89.
jonnyp
Member
Day One will be when they no longer have a console.
LittleBigGamer
Banned
Indeed. but I am referring to the games that accumulated GOTY awards of 2017
1. The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild - 189
2. Horizon Zero Dawn - 52
3. Super Mario Odyssey - 26
2017 GAME OF THE YEAR
2017 Game of the Year - from media outlets * Video Game Awards Only - The Video Game includes Console games, PC games, Handheld games, ...
gotypicks.blogspot.com
Awards have a different logic compared to Metascore. I respect both. My intention was not to compare it with Mario of course. But to argue that the game is GOTY material. Ubisoft games are not at that level in the last decade at least.
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DJT123
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The combat in HZD is fun, no doubt, especially taking on the large robots which feels intimidating. I just don't see myself sticking with it as long as I did with AC. There's some hook that I'm missing. (I've been really into CRPG's lately also)
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IbelieveInGenerations
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The "wide Variety" of PC games are mostly Indie games playable on any notebook, You simply dont need to build an expensive hardware to have access to these games. Even classic and popular PC games like diablo ond world of Warcraft have shitty graphics that can run on any hardware, and they are the type of games that dont intetest a typical console gamer in the First place.
The eyes of hardcore gamers (You know, the ones that are looking forward to games and not counting fps) are more on the platform that releases great exclusive modern contents month after month, and thats why PS4 and switch have great Sales. As an example, You Just cant have on any other platform a good year start like PS4 had been putting with a great sequence of Very good titles like Dreams, FFVIIremake, TlouPart2 and Ghost of Tsushima etc. Thats where many people eyes are on: games.
As for framerates, again, You are the kind that overestimate its importance. All that matters is having a smooth experience, and theres a point that more fps is just not detriment to the Fun aspect. In fact, many of the most acclaimed games in history were not played at Very high fps, but if If conforts You, 60fps mode on console is a trending now, and thats good enough for Very smooth experience.
Your post really agrees with Mine when you Said you get way higher fps, because thats almost all you are left to do since You can not get real visuals difference like Infamous to Infamous 2 or Splinter Cell on PS2 vs Xbox. Devs dont have any motivation to please a tiny fraction of PC gamer population that gets the elite hardware and really provide a good visual leap, so thats why all you have left is increasing fps.
CrysisFreak
Banned
Their marbles RT demo was impressive though.
turtlepowa
Banned
While HZD was not a bad game, i'm pretty sure as a multiplatorm game it would have been around something like 80-82 and that's in the region of Ubisoft games. In my opionion all exclusive games get too high ratings, too much attention, too many awards and yes that includes Mario and Zelda.Indeed. I am referring to the games that accumulated GOTY awards of 2017
The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild - 189
Horizon Zero Dawn - 52
Super Mario Odyssey - 26
2017 GAME OF THE YEAR
2017 Game of the Year - from media outlets * Video Game Awards Only - The Video Game includes Console games, PC games, Handheld games, ...
Awards have a different logic compared to Metascore. I respect both. My intention was not to compare it with Mario of course. But to argue that the game is GOTY material. Ubisoft games are not at that level in the last decade at least.
Thanks for the link, very interesting overview.
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makaveli60
Member
Exactly. Master race will never admit this and just continue jerking off to the numbers as always, but this is the (for them) ugly truth. They can throw resolution and fps on the games, they will still look marginally different than on consoles. And in addition the constant suck with drivers, unexpected errors, performance issues and so on.
Rusty Shackelford
Member
I get what OP is saying. Sure, with PCs you can double your resolution and framerates, maybe a little bit better shading here and there with better use of Raytracing, but there will never be a PC game made specifically for a 10th gen Core i9 , an Nvidia 3080, etc. Not when Series X and PS5 are the baselines. When these two consoles were announced, a friend of mine said he's "Been playing with next gen graphics for the last 3 years." I said "No. You've been playing with current gen graphics with higher settings" the last 3 years. Consoles provide the baseline and PCs amp it up, but still fundamentally same graphics on the same games.
LittleBigGamer
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There is not a single year because it was every year.
2013 the last of us/GTA5(there was only a console version)
2014 Infamous/Driveclub
2015 the order 1886
2016 Uncharted 4
2017 Horizon Zero Dawn
2018 GOW/RDR2
2019 Death Stranding/Days gone
2020 The last of us part 2/ GOT
2021 - ''insert ps5 games here''
Most of them were awarded for their technical achievement. Also, most of them were GOTY winners or contenders at worse.
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