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ShockingAlberto
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As much as they are an interesting what if, I'm glad they didn't take RE in the Hookman supernatural direction.
BocoDragon
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I'd like to see this "dialogue" that Aeris makes in post death scenarios with a Gameshark.
1. The game contains a dialogue system where whatever character is in your party will speak some necessary dialogue. In this case Aeris dialogue is easily explained away.
2. If this dialogue IS original for Aeris, perhaps they simply rearranged a scenario to be after her death instead of before.
I believe it's just the former though. There is no cut Aeris ressurection element.. It's just that it was an extremely desired thing in the late 90s so there was a lot of false information based on hope spread around. Kind of like the Lara Croft nude code.
1. The game contains a dialogue system where whatever character is in your party will speak some necessary dialogue. In this case Aeris dialogue is easily explained away.
2. If this dialogue IS original for Aeris, perhaps they simply rearranged a scenario to be after her death instead of before.
I believe it's just the former though. There is no cut Aeris ressurection element.. It's just that it was an extremely desired thing in the late 90s so there was a lot of false information based on hope spread around. Kind of like the Lara Croft nude code.
BocoDragon
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ShockingAlberto
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This trip back to 1997 reminds me that mid-development shots of Ocarina showed Link holding the Triforce.
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Halo 2 had (at least) 3 levels cut.
"Covenant Ship (Level), Forerunner Tank (Level), and Forerunner Keyship(Level). In the "Making of Halo 2" documentary there was concept art seen regarding a level location The Ark, although the design was later placed into Halo 3's The Storm (Level) as the Portal. The former could have been apart of pre-production for Halo 3. Marty O'Donnell was also quoted in a Bungie Podcast (Episode 13, at 21:00) saying that all the actors had recorded the lines to the original Halo 2 ending and that it still exists today, but he is unwilling to ever show it. The Flood Juggernaut was a character that was modeled and placed in the coding of the game but never had AI programmed or had been placed on any level, similar to the Engineer in Halo: Combat Evolved." Copied from Halopedia.
Halo 3 had a sentinel level cut, based around architecture similar to that seen the in multiplayer level 'Guardian'. There was a promo still on the Halo Zune that alluded to it.
"Covenant Ship (Level), Forerunner Tank (Level), and Forerunner Keyship(Level). In the "Making of Halo 2" documentary there was concept art seen regarding a level location The Ark, although the design was later placed into Halo 3's The Storm (Level) as the Portal. The former could have been apart of pre-production for Halo 3. Marty O'Donnell was also quoted in a Bungie Podcast (Episode 13, at 21:00) saying that all the actors had recorded the lines to the original Halo 2 ending and that it still exists today, but he is unwilling to ever show it. The Flood Juggernaut was a character that was modeled and placed in the coding of the game but never had AI programmed or had been placed on any level, similar to the Engineer in Halo: Combat Evolved." Copied from Halopedia.
Halo 3 had a sentinel level cut, based around architecture similar to that seen the in multiplayer level 'Guardian'. There was a promo still on the Halo Zune that alluded to it.
Beil
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If you use GameShark to keep Aerith in your party after she dies, after she snowboarding level, she does have a few lines. She probably was intended to die later on (or be revived ;p)
There is also an unused cavern level that has Aerith's music playing, but there is no code in that level at all, so you cannot move. Interesting anywho.
There is also an unused cavern level that has Aerith's music playing, but there is no code in that level at all, so you cannot move. Interesting anywho.
BocoDragon
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Aeris: Im sick of this.
Aeris: Hey. Lets take a look at the map. Press [SWITCH].
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Aeris: We cant afford to be beaten!
After the battle she appears again, and has another line.
Aeris: What is this?
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So she basically has dialogue for a couple of of sections where any of the characters will say something relevant to the minigame. Even if these lines of dialogue are unique to Aeris (and are we sure, say, Vincent, being an optional character, wouldn't say the same generic line?).. the fact that they programmed dialgoue for every character in this scenario doesn't really imply anything.
When they were designing the Fort Condor and Snowboarding minigame, I doubt they were thinking "well, this section takes place after Aeris' death so we can leave out one of the character's lines." They probably just didn't care or notice... they just filled in lines for all the characters... and that's even assuming the order of scenarios was determined yet, which it probably wasn't. Snowboarding and Fort Condor could have taken place before Aeris' death at one point in development... or more likely these scenario programmers just had no idea of the order of events.
It even makes sense that Sony CEA would translate it to English... in a huge dump of code, who would even notice this dialogue took place after Aeris' death?
Now if there were even one Aeris line relevant to the story.. that would be interesting. But as it is, it's just prgramming junk for a minigame event.
Aeris: Hey. Lets take a look at the map. Press [SWITCH].
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Aeris: We cant afford to be beaten!
After the battle she appears again, and has another line.
Aeris: What is this?
...
So she basically has dialogue for a couple of of sections where any of the characters will say something relevant to the minigame. Even if these lines of dialogue are unique to Aeris (and are we sure, say, Vincent, being an optional character, wouldn't say the same generic line?).. the fact that they programmed dialgoue for every character in this scenario doesn't really imply anything.
When they were designing the Fort Condor and Snowboarding minigame, I doubt they were thinking "well, this section takes place after Aeris' death so we can leave out one of the character's lines." They probably just didn't care or notice... they just filled in lines for all the characters... and that's even assuming the order of scenarios was determined yet, which it probably wasn't. Snowboarding and Fort Condor could have taken place before Aeris' death at one point in development... or more likely these scenario programmers just had no idea of the order of events.
It even makes sense that Sony CEA would translate it to English... in a huge dump of code, who would even notice this dialogue took place after Aeris' death?
Now if there were even one Aeris line relevant to the story.. that would be interesting. But as it is, it's just prgramming junk for a minigame event.
According to an old 1up Yours podcast, Fable 2 used to have more consequences when the player's character got hurt.
David Jaffe (I think) talked about how God of War almost had a Navi (from Zelda OoT) like character for the first level, and Kratos would kill him/her off immediately.
David Jaffe (I think) talked about how God of War almost had a Navi (from Zelda OoT) like character for the first level, and Kratos would kill him/her off immediately.
BocoDragon
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:lol brilliant.
That would've been a neat way to give you a tutorial for the first few sections of the game... then kill it off mercifully with some laffs.
That would've been a neat way to give you a tutorial for the first few sections of the game... then kill it off mercifully with some laffs.
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Disc 2 of Xenogears. Seemed like at least 15 hours worth of content was condensed to a cutscene 
satriales
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Black had a challenge mode where you would run around the level shooting targets within a set time. Not sure why it was cut as it was more fun than the main game.
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Adding to this, don't forget that RE2 was getting close to being completed when the team completely scrapped what they had and started again. It was to take place in the Police Station and starred Leon and a new character named Elza.
Some footage of RE 1.5:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qAlyZXJm8Y
Some footage of RE 1.5:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qAlyZXJm8Y
http://half-life.wikia.com/wiki/Half-Life_2_Beta
that's a sort of central overview. Follow the hyperlinks for detailed breakdowns.
play restored content (including upcoming Episode 3's Borealis) with the Missing Info 1.5 mod.
http://www.love-tub.net/
footage of restored enemies (including that tentacle which does look fun to fight), weapons (classic Tau and Gluon guns as well as the conventional weapons seen in early HL2 screens) and walkthrough of restored levels on youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cs-z8-RnRrs
that's a sort of central overview. Follow the hyperlinks for detailed breakdowns.
play restored content (including upcoming Episode 3's Borealis) with the Missing Info 1.5 mod.
http://www.love-tub.net/
footage of restored enemies (including that tentacle which does look fun to fight), weapons (classic Tau and Gluon guns as well as the conventional weapons seen in early HL2 screens) and walkthrough of restored levels on youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cs-z8-RnRrs
Night_Trekker
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The most fucked-up thing about RE 1.5: there are completely playable builds out there, but we'll never get our hands on them. Completely new, clean footage appeared courtesy of The Playstation Museum showing someone from TPM playing through the game, but it was removed when the owner continually received threats from rabid fans who wanted a leaked copy :lol You can still find copies of the video in various places online.
My understanding is that all copies of that RE 1.5 build are traceable back to the people who have access to them. If there were to be a leak, it would be obvious who had done it and that person would be in a lot of trouble.
My understanding is that all copies of that RE 1.5 build are traceable back to the people who have access to them. If there were to be a leak, it would be obvious who had done it and that person would be in a lot of trouble.
gunswordfist
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FUCK YEAH! I wanted to make this thread.
I was going to mention Sonic 2. It's already my favorite 2D game and also probably my most inspirational game (I swear I almost cry when I hear the first level's boss music).
Mega Man 3 was supposed to have much more content but of course the schedule made them run out of time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keiji_Inafune
I would have loved to see more of Proto Man's story since he is of course the absolute best Mega Man character (Fuck you Zero!)
In the original Devil May Cry, Trish was supposed to be a playable character but...wait for it...the team ran out of time to put her in. I hear she was supposed to play differently from Dante by being quicker and more acrobatic. (Not that Dante skin shit from DMC2)
I was going to mention Sonic 2. It's already my favorite 2D game and also probably my most inspirational game (I swear I almost cry when I hear the first level's boss music).
Mega Man 3 was supposed to have much more content but of course the schedule made them run out of time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keiji_Inafune
I would have loved to see more of Proto Man's story since he is of course the absolute best Mega Man character (Fuck you Zero!)
In the original Devil May Cry, Trish was supposed to be a playable character but...wait for it...the team ran out of time to put her in. I hear she was supposed to play differently from Dante by being quicker and more acrobatic. (Not that Dante skin shit from DMC2)
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It's not so much that they cut content as they scrapped the entire game at a certain point and slapped something much smaller together in a year or two, and that's what we got.
Here's a great article in Gamespot about the trouble they had getting Half Life 2 finished. They talk about the leak and whatnot.
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Anyone know how the fuck the ghosts were supposed to tie in with the resident evil storyline? The hookman version makes absolutely no sense to me.
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Missing Information was interesting to play, but I can't say I was very impressed by it, it's basically a bunch of loosely connected bits and ends of gameplay. Interesting to think of what might have been, but I'm more than content with the final, complete Half-Life 2.
I agree.
One recycled ship name and an arctic theme means Valve has run out of ideas? Really? That's a fairly big assumption.
I agree.
One recycled ship name and an arctic theme means Valve has run out of ideas? Really? That's a fairly big assumption.
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Hmm, thought it was kinda known they had the vague plan for the entire HL2 series kinda laid out during HL2 development? Was too many ideas for the original game so the rest went into "episodic" content with further development as they went along. Really seems to make sense. I mean kinda sucks when there is no forethought for what sequels will bring in or the realization the story is too long so you cram it into too short of a game but can't really think when they decided to do HL2 episodes they didn't know basically where the story was going to go.
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He kept talking up Fable for quite some time before it was released, so yeah, eventually he probably started believing his own hubris and lies
gunswordfist
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It's kind of depressing hearing all the great content games like these never had. I wonder if any good 3D game ever had all the content developers wanted in it.
Sibylus
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Is it true, tass0? Do you hide beneath Gabe Newell's desk and eavesdrop on his phone calls? Do you sneak a glance or two at the cabal whiteboards? Do you pilfer the odd page from Marc Laidlaw's story bible?
Confess your crimes.
Confess your crimes.
gunswordfist
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Borman
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Frequency : Expansion disks!
And of course, Saved Films in Halo 2
http://superiorversion.com/?p=265#more-265
Just as a note, it is my site, but its also my content so
And of course, Saved Films in Halo 2
http://superiorversion.com/?p=265#more-265
Just as a note, it is my site, but its also my content so
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I heard that the only original part of Half-Life 2 episode 3 is the Borealis, and then the rest of the game is just Anticitizen One through Dark Energy with 1337, updated graphics.
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First things that came to mind were Twilight Princess and SOTC.
There would have been too many colossi really, unless they were optional.
There would have been too many colossi really, unless they were optional.
Starwolf_UK
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Just to throw an obscure one into the fray.
The Japanese voice acting for European (and American?) versions of Puyo Pop fever. The instruction manual (page 13 for the Gamecube version) mentions about it being possible to change between English and Japanese in the options but in-game it doesn't exist so I asked SEGA about it and this was their response.
I guess the manual for Sonic 2006 proves further still that is how SEGA do things. Print/create manual before game/localisation is complete and pray all features are included in final product.
As for why they would remove such a thing. My guess would have to be budget reasons.
The Japanese voice acting for European (and American?) versions of Puyo Pop fever. The instruction manual (page 13 for the Gamecube version) mentions about it being possible to change between English and Japanese in the options but in-game it doesn't exist so I asked SEGA about it and this was their response.
I guess the manual for Sonic 2006 proves further still that is how SEGA do things. Print/create manual before game/localisation is complete and pray all features are included in final product.
As for why they would remove such a thing. My guess would have to be budget reasons.
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Killer7 was originally meant to be a much larger game. But the usual story of meeting scheduled release dates and long production times, meant it was mostly cut out.
Thankfully, most of the original story was documented in Hand in Killer7
Thankfully, most of the original story was documented in Hand in Killer7
Sibylus
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Real ending:
Freeman wakes up from a brief nap in Black Mesa. His superiors are still waiting for him in the test chamber. He pushes that crystal in that squeaky little cart, the machinery starts spinning up, waves of visible energy vibrate and flicker, the room hums... and nothing happens.
Roll credits.
Roll credits.