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Opinion Coreteks: Detailed video about why he think PS5 will be the better console because of the I/O & SSD

eastwood333

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Incoming wave of xbots bashing everything about the PS5 in 3...2...1...
Nobodys bashing PS5. They're just stating XSX is more powerful. Stating facts and bashing are two separate things.

XSX is 12TF sustained at all times for devs to play with. PS5 is more like 9.2tf with the potential to temporarily boost to 10.2tf for the Michael Bay moments. However, the console will not be able to stay in boost reaching up 10.2 at all times without major heating issues,hence the need for variable clocks. Its really straight forward
 
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ANIMAL1975

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Who is this guy? A random YouTuber?

I love his blog:


seriously though, do we really need a thread for every YouTube video and tweet? Why not a single OT with all the YouTube/twitter posts about SSD and call it a day?
Incoming threads from Sony Fanboys on why PS5s SSD will make it perform better than XSX in 3...2... oops, too late.
Nobodys bashing PS5. They're just stating XSX is more powerful. Stating facts and bashing are two separate things.

XSX is 12TF sustained at all times for devs to play with. PS5 is more like 9.2tf with the potential to temporarily boost to 10.2tf for the Michael Bay moments. However, the console will not be able to stay in boost reaching up 10.2 at all times without major heating issues,hence the variable clock addition.


Like a clock.
 

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Nobodys bashing PS5. They're just stating XSX is more powerful. Stating facts and bashing are two separate things.

XSX is 12TF sustained at all times for devs to play with. PS5 is more like 9.2tf with the potential to temporarily boost to 10.2tf for the Michael Bay moments. However, the console will not be able to stay in boost reaching up 10.2 at all times without major heating issues,hence the variable clock addition.

Little bit confused by this, so when the xbox does not need all the power the chip still remains at the same speed, locked. Why would they not take advantage of a system that would let them use less power if they don't need it. I am not really a technical guy but It seems like an oversight in design or just plain laziness?
 

eastwood333

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Little bit confused by this, so when the xbox does not need all the power the chip still remains at the same speed, locked. Why would they not take advantage of a system that would let them use less power if they don't need it. I am not really a technical guy but It seems like an oversight in design or just plain laziness?
It's not complicated. Devs are allowed to push the XSX to the max of 12tf at all times, not just the temporary Michael Moments because it has far more CU's at far lower clocks to prevent heating issues. 10.2tf is the ceiling for the PS5,however given the high clock speeds, the boost mode is only for the Michael Bay type moments. Devs can not push the PS5 in boost mode at sustained clocks or it would have significant heathing issues. Hence, why there is variable clocks. I suspect PS5 will run in the 9.2tf neighborhood most of the time.

XSX's higher CU counts at lower clocks allows for sustained performance, where as a much lower CU count at significantly higher clocks creates heating issues, hence the need for variable clocks/boost mode. PS5 can only run in the high boost mode reaching the max of 10.2tf only temporarily during the most stressing points in games
 
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Nobodys bashing PS5. They're just stating XSX is more powerful. Stating facts and bashing are two separate things.

XSX is 12TF sustained at all times for devs to play with. PS5 is more like 9.2tf with the potential to temporarily boost to 10.2tf for the Michael Bay moments. However, the console will not be able to stay in boost reaching up 10.2 at all times without major heating issues,hence the variable clock addition.
Stop spreading FUD.

GPU clock is CAPPED at 2230Mhz not boosting to 2230Mhz, there's a difference. Therefore its 10.3tflops.
 

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Little bit confused by this, so when the xbox does not need all the power the chip still remains at the same speed, locked. Why would they not take advantage of a system that would let them use less power if they don't need it. I am not really a technical guy but It seems like an oversight in design or just plain laziness?
Well, there it is.
 

eastwood333

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Stop spreading FUD.

GPU clock is CAPPED at 2230Mhz not boosting to 2230Mhz, there's a difference. Therefore its 10.3tflops.
No, you're spreading FUD. Cerny didn't confirm that. The GPU and CPU being locked at a sustained clock of 2230Mhz will creat significant heating issues. That's why they went with variable clocks and not sustained.

Its not difficult to grasp.

Its why many believe MS chose the right direction. Significantly more CU's at much lower clocks allows for greater performance with less heating issues.
 
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Another youtuber defending his console of choice, nothing new in the horizon
He is a PC guy.

Don't you guys find it strange that PS5 is exciting for Developers who create games and always praised by unbiased people? eg PC only YTers and other gaming channels.

There might be a reason for that which is the mighty impressive SSD and the I/O block that keeps bottlenecks to the minimum.
 

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Nobodys bashing PS5. They're just stating XSX is more powerful. Stating facts and bashing are two separate things.

XSX is 12TF sustained at all times for devs to play with. PS5 is more like 9.2tf with the potential to temporarily boost to 10.2tf for the Michael Bay moments. However, the console will not be able to stay in boost reaching up 10.2 at all times without major heating issues,hence the need for variable clocks. Its really straight forward
ps5 at 9.2tfpnisnt true
 
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He is a PC guy.

Don't you guys find it strange that PS5 is exciting for Developers who create games and always praised by unbiased people? eg PC only YTers and other gaming channels.

There might be a reason for that which is the mighty impressive SSD and the I/O block that keeps bottlenecks to the minimum.
Pc guys hate the ps5 completely hate it because they cant beat it, they love the series x because its generic and easy to beat with a pc
 

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Pc guys hate the ps5 completely hate it because they cant beat it, they love the series x because its generic and easy to beat with a pc
You could build a PC this very moment that would wipe the floor with a PS5.
 

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Yes.Read my post above as to why.
Nope.
And bullshit post doesn’t change that.


Cerny did not confirm that. You're simply delusional if you think the PS5 is going to run at 2230Mhz 90% of the time. Thats laughable.
Cerny indeed said what he said.
Coupe of percent drop in clock to 10% decrease in power draw.

Cerny said too that in most of time it runs at max clock and the small drop in clocks happens in some workloads.

So it is hard to understand how anybody things PS5 will run anywhere close to 9.2TFs unless the guy saying that have a strong bias.
 
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he needs to explain better how arythmetic is better than communication from nvidia slide (tlfop is better than i/o is we use terms to measure them) become i/o is better 5 seconde later.
 
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ethomaz

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Why is it BS? So the PS5 is going to run at 2230Mhz 90% of the time?
By Cerny works probably even more time.

Cerny was clear about just in some workloads the clock will drop and the drop is a coup of percent only.

So unless you have a strong bias 9.2TFs is far from the truth... it will probablystay close to 10TFs even when dropping the clock.
 
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Incoming threads from Sony Fanboys on why PS5s SSD will make it perform better than XSX in 3...2... oops, too late.
Funny that xbots still seem to think that when we talk about PS5 + it's fast SSD and how it affects things they see it as "lol ps5 people think ps5 will have more tflops and performance than xsex LOLOLOL" :messenger_dizzy:

Xbot logic is the dumbest of all fanboys

"12 > 10 = IT IS BIG DIFFERENCE LOL LOL" and "5.5gb/s vs 2.4gb/s = lol why would sony perform any better ??? LOLO LOL" cant be true on the same time

Does 2x the bandwith make ps5 perform (it doesnt mean magical tflops etc, just data transfer) better? if you think the answer is no, then look in to mirror and say bloody mary 3x, maybe she comes to fix your brain.


Nobodys bashing PS5. They're just stating XSX is more powerful. Stating facts and bashing are two separate things.

XSX is 12TF sustained at all times for devs to play with. PS5 is more like 9.2tf with the potential to temporarily boost to 10.2tf for the Michael Bay moments. However, the console will not be able to stay in boost reaching up 10.2 at all times without major heating issues,hence the need for variable clocks. Its really straight forward
Are you serious, you are one of those people that repeat that on every other thread if I remember correctly.

Like what is the point of "they are just stating xsex is more powerful"? The endgame? Saying obvious facts that others have already knew since the reveal and nobody is claiming xbox having weaker gpu/cpu

I havent seen a single comment saying that PS5 would have more tflops or faster CPU. So why it is needed to repeat day after day "lol xsex powerful"?

And then you and others spread that bullshit of "lol it is only 9.2 and temporary boost to 10.2" and "heating issues!!" like you would be Sony engineer. Cerny told us that it usually stays at 10.2 so that is the fact until proven otherwise.

You are just making yourself a clown.

If you have hard facts from Sony or 3rd party with physical PS5 unit and test data which shows that it stays at 9.2 tflops because of heat issues, then it is different thing. But now you are just fanatic xbox fanboy with zero knowledge and your agenda is to make xbox be some kind of winner.

"no body is bashing" and then you bash/downplay it and spread bullshit in next lines and talking about stating the facts and then you pull these numbers from your ass :messenger_tears_of_joy:

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I guess that it is difficult for people with lower than average IQ to understand that when people are talking about PS5 and it's specs, it doesnt somehow mean that now xsex is said to be slower and because of that it must be reminded in every corner.

Normal people saw that PS5s theoretical gpu/cpu power is less than xsex when we saw the reveal, but xbots still have to repeat that a week later.

Maybe they dont remember is it "12 > 10" or "12 < 10" and have to repeat it?
 
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No wonder developers are so excited with PS5. I don't hear the same excitement for the XSEX.
The so called devs excited for PS5 are either PS5 first party devs or ex-first party devs. The rest are just "both are good" and being quoted as devs excited for PS5. XSX on the other hand had a ex-Guerilla Games and ex-Space X/Valve guy praising them for being better. If you are to quote this youtuber then I will also say Austin Evans said XSX is significantly better.