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autoduelist

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Donald Trump announced April 15th every activity business school stores offices etc must resume back to normal

RIP more people gona die virus transmition will be unstopable

USA could overtake Italy numbers
Misinformation.

“I would love to have the country opened up and raring to go by Easter,” Trump insisted, noting the religious significance of the date.

“We’re opening up this incredible country, because we have to do that,” Trump said from outside the White House during a Fox News town hall. “I’d love to have it opened by Easter. I’d love to have that – it’s such an important day for other reasons.”
He isn't ordering anything. He is being optimistic, and saying it depends on the experts, but he is hoping we get back soon. He may be saying that because some experts believe it true. He may be saying it to calm people down, knowing it won't actually happen.

Either way, your post is misinformation and does nobody any good. Even if he straight up said 'we go back to work in April', it should be obvious to anyone if the situation worsens he'd simply delay. But in the meantime? Hope is good.
 
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are any of other gaffer's parents getting paranoid over Corona?

I am staying home instead of my apartment since they don't want me to live in a building full of other people.
My dad just went nuclear and become a clean and health freak, he tries to hoard medical supplies but I am against it. since there are people out there who need it more than us. my Mum was keeping it reasonable and calm nut seeing my dad like that, it's getting to her as well.
our pets are outside and not allowed to go inside the house, which is understandable since they often roam the neighborhood.

I also made some Hand sanitizer by using rubbing alcohol & sacrificing my cosmetics (RIP my moisturizer and toners, you shall be missed). just in case I need them when going to work and have no access to water and soap. and my dad just used it to spray... the couch before he sat down.
I got a bit mad since it is hard to find reasonably priced hand sanitizer. I mean, it's good to be vigilant, but use hand sanitizer for, you know, hands? it won't do much to the couch anyway.

I already asked him yesterday to not use hand sanitizer and use disinfectant instead, afraid the advice fell on a deaf ear. was I overreacting to my dad?
it's annoying since we still got a lot of disinfectants that are usually used to clean the floor.
 
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Almost all fired were Chinese, not American.

A USAID spokesman said the decision to shutter its Beijing office was “due to significantly decreased access to Chinese government officials as well as the Agency’s position that the Chinese model of development is not aligned with U.S. values and interests.”
The biggest cuts were to positions filled by Chinese employees on the U.S. payroll, down to around 10 from 40 over the same period.
Only 5 Americans lost their positions, and the article doesn't indicate they were fired, they could simply have been assigned to work back in the US [likely, govt jobs are hard to lose].

All of the 'negative' quotes in the article are either the journo opining or 'anonymous' nonsense.

The office was specifically working on TB and malaria, according to the article.

So... yeah, not a big deal.

Edit: looks like someone else already beat down this article from another angle as well. The media sucks. And they suck so bad, it falls apart with even a cursory read. They can't even bullshit well.
 
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An Oxford study thinks exactly that:


Basically, the idea is that this is super infectious.... and has actually been among us for a bit and many people are actually already over it. That is, they suggest it might be a very good thing because it means our current estimates of serious cases and deaths are wildly overestimated - a massive amount of people that showed no symptoms are already on the other side of it.

If true, we are overreacting to fear based on bad math. Then other news suggests this is worse than ever. Depends on who you believe, aka, we still don't know enough.

Point is, is 50% of the pop is infected, you cant use the current death rate and do math. If that mant are infected, this may not be nearly as big of deal because it means the issue rates are low.
The study is nonsense. If half the population was infected over two months testing wouldn't be 90+% negative all the time, and we already have data from cruise ships and such giving a pretty good idea of how many people get infected with no symptoms, how many are likely to require hospitalisation, and how many may die.
 

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So uh...are there any good stories about people recovering once they've been put on a ventilator? Because it seems like all of these cases go bad once they reach this point.
Unlikely. All the pathologies I’ve read and been told by friends I know working in ICU that ventilator intervention and indeed an ECMO intervention is end-stage, you’re usually looking at comorbidity coming into play or opportunistic secondary infection (such as drug-resistant fungal infection or parasites) which finishes the patient off.

Indeed a lot of the outcomes are quite depressing, it’s not worth passing on.
There are definitely people who have survived thanks to ventilators. I posted an article about one recently.

Let me see.... here...


As of Feb 27, 2020, coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) has affected 47 countries and territories around the world.1 Xiaobo Yang and colleagues2 described 52 of 710 patients with confirmed COVID-19 admitted to an intensive care unit (ICU) in Wuhan, China. 29 (56%) of 52 patients were given non-invasive ventilation at ICU admission, of whom 22 (76%) required further orotracheal intubation and invasive mechanical ventilation. The ICU mortality rate among those who required non-invasive ventilation was 23 (79%) of 29 and among those who required invasive mechanical ventilation was 19 (86%) of 22
So... according to this, 80% mortality if you get to ventilator stage if i'm reading that correctly. But only 52 of 710 people sick enough to be at the ICU with corona got that sick... and obviously the number who didn't even need to go to icu is even larger.

Which translates to... those that get it worst often die... but that's sort of a given. That is, of course the sickest have the highest mortality rate... saying 80% makes it sound way worse than it may be, since [hopefully] few make it to that point.

Edit to add: due to ventilator being a scarcer resource, it also means little. That is, if you get sick in an area with tons of ventilators, they may put everyone on one and have a high survival rate. If you are in a low ventilator area, then perhaps almost everyone dies because they only give them to the worst cases.
 
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Misinformation.



He isn't ordering anything. He is being optimistic, and saying it depends on the experts, but he is hoping we get back soon. He may be saying that because some experts believe it true. He may be saying it to calm people down, knowing it won't actually happen.

Either way, your post is misinformation and does nobody any good. Even if he straight up said 'we go back to work in April', it should be obvious to anyone if the situation worsens he'd simply delay. But in the meantime? Hope is good.
It's a bit naive of an interpretation to say "optimistic". He is a lot smarter than people give him credit for. I think it's done mainly for market manipulation purposes.
 

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The study is nonsense. If half the population was infected over two months testing wouldn't be 90+% negative all the time, and we already have data from cruise ships and such giving a pretty good idea of how many people get infected with no symptoms, how many are likely to require hospitalisation, and how many may die.
Perhaps? Are cruise ships representative of population? I would think they trend old. Also, it's my understanding the tests will be negative if you already got better, because they don't test for antibodies unless you get the rarer blood test.

I have no problem agreeing the study might be wrong, but it's out there. I don't trust any single study.
 

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It's a bit naive of an interpretation to say "optimistic". He is a lot smarter than people give him credit for. I think it's done mainly for market manipulation purposes.
I said he is being optimistic, not that he is optimistic. That is, i am saying he is putting a positive spin on it for the people. How is that a naive interpretation? Its exactly what you just said, it calms people and the markets.
 
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I said he is being optimistic, not that he is optimistic. That is, i am saying he is putting a positive spin on it for the people. How is that a naive interpretation? Its exactly what you just said, it calms people and the markets.
Sorry, I misread you then. I did not realize you meant he is "being" being optimistic.
 
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Our worst nightmare is happening. We can't do this do our health care workers. We can't. This is America, the best country in the world.
well...

china didn't know and it was in that very same situation
Italy didn't believe to be affected in such way and it wasn't prepared
US.. well actually US saw it was coming and react slowly (only when the Covid Really affected in to large scale)
many other nations not yet strongly affected yet will suffer the very same situation again ( brazil, south Africa , India, Russia )

and reason are really simple
take preemptive actions as large city lockdown, massive stocks of medical equipment, smart work by home , building temporary medical site... every action as 1) a huge economic impact 2 ) people treat this situation as just a flu, which is not ... ( luckily the mortality rate of covid-19 is not so high, but still it's not an excuse )
 

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So i had a bad headache for 2-3 days followed by very very bad muscle pains . I started feeling fatigue and once i lost sense of smell and taste i knew that was another new symptom and I said ok i have to get tested.

I am a first responder and still had to go to work even though the state is on lockdown. I attempted to get tested 3 times and was refused. I finally was able to get tested and it came back positive. Im feeling ok. Im in my mid 30’s and have no health problems. My chest feels heavy and i am getting tired much quicker. I now have to stay Home until further notice. Besides that everything is ok.
 

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So i had a bad headache for 2-3 days followed by very very bad muscle pains . I started feeling fatigue and once i lost sense of smell and taste i knew that was another new symptom and I said ok i have to get tested.

I am a first responder and still had to go to work even though the state is on lockdown. I attempted to get tested 3 times and was refused. I finally was able to get tested and it came back positive. Im feeling ok. Im in my mid 30’s and have no health problems. My chest feels heavy and i am getting tired much quicker. I now have to stay Home until further notice. Besides that everything is ok.
Sorry Filth. Hope you kick its ass.
 

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It's probably just an order being fulfilled, remember we have exponentially increased the defense budget. Besides recent pictures show that current national guard members being deployed don't even have masks.

15 years ago every full time army personnel got a pro mask as part of their TA-50, I'm pretty sure national guard members had the same thing back then.

IDK why that got cut, anyways TL:DR equipment don't mean shit if you can't provide basic PPE to keep the personnel operating it from getting sick.
 

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My Covid-19 experience:

I caught the virus in Singapore, back in the first week of February. I’m in good health, exercise regularly, with a strong immune system, and rarely get sick. This is what I experienced, in order:
  • Severe upset stomach and diarrhea. Sudden, painful, and frequent.
  • Complete exhaustion. Barely able to get out of bed or even move, no appetite, mostly slept.
  • Scratchy throat and constant cough. No matter how much I hydrated, my throat always felt dry and the coughing was relentless.
  • Mild/moderate trouble breathing. My breathing was shallow and my lungs felt tight. At times it felt like breathing took effort.
At the time, there was less known about the symptoms so it wasn’t at all clear— until after the fact, really— that I’d caught the Cornonavirus. I thought I had a severe flu until the respiratory symptoms started. I’m grateful I was able to stay isolated and get through it myself. But knowing what we know now about the potential severity, I’m lucky it wasn’t worse.

My message is just to take the warnings and precautions seriously. There’s still much we don’t know about this virus and especially because it seems to affect people in such different ways, it‘s just not worth the risk. Please don’t assume because you’re young and healthy that you’ll be fine. Don’t risk your own health/life or someone else’s.
 

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So i had a bad headache for 2-3 days followed by very very bad muscle pains . I started feeling fatigue and once i lost sense of smell and taste i knew that was another new symptom and I said ok i have to get tested.

I am a first responder and still had to go to work even though the state is on lockdown. I attempted to get tested 3 times and was refused. I finally was able to get tested and it came back positive. Im feeling ok. Im in my mid 30’s and have no health problems. My chest feels heavy and i am getting tired much quicker. I now have to stay Home until further notice. Besides that everything is ok.
Look on the positive side. When you are fit again, you will be one of the few people who have everything already behind them, do not have to worry about yourself personally and can help others if necessary.

Get well soon!
 
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So i had a bad headache for 2-3 days followed by very very bad muscle pains . I started feeling fatigue and once i lost sense of smell and taste i knew that was another new symptom and I said ok i have to get tested.

I am a first responder and still had to go to work even though the state is on lockdown. I attempted to get tested 3 times and was refused. I finally was able to get tested and it came back positive. Im feeling ok. Im in my mid 30’s and have no health problems. My chest feels heavy and i am getting tired much quicker. I now have to stay Home until further notice. Besides that everything is ok.
Just get some rest and get better, I don't think it's far fetched that there's a link between exhaustion and death in infected young first responders.
 
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My Covid-19 experience:

I caught the virus in Singapore, back in the first week of February. I’m in good health, exercise regularly, with a strong immune system, and rarely get sick. This is what I experienced, in order:
  • Severe upset stomach and diarrhea. Sudden, painful, and frequent.
  • Complete exhaustion. Barely able to get out of bed or even move, no appetite, mostly slept.
  • Scratchy throat and constant cough. No matter how much I hydrated, my throat always felt dry and the coughing was relentless.
  • Mild/moderate trouble breathing. My breathing was shallow and my lungs felt tight. At times it felt like breathing took effort.
At the time, there was less known about the symptoms so it wasn’t at all clear— until after the fact, really— that I’d caught the Cornonavirus. I thought I had a severe flu until the respiratory symptoms started. I’m grateful I was able to stay isolated and get through it myself. But knowing what we know now about the potential severity, I’m lucky it wasn’t worse.

My message is just to take the warnings and precautions seriously. There’s still much we don’t know about this virus and especially because it seems to affect people in such different ways, it‘s just not worth the risk. Please don’t assume because you’re young and healthy that you’ll be fine. Don’t risk your own health/life or someone else’s.
Thanks for this post.
 

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Just get some rest and get better, I don't think it's far fetched that there's a link between exhaustion and death in infected young first responders.
This link is absolutely valid and has been clearly proven. It exists with almost all diseases. That's why diseases that have not been properly cured are so dangerous. Stress and exhaustion produce a multitude of stress hormones which weaken the immune system.
What many people don't know, but what makes the connection very clear is the fact that people with a intentional suppressed immune system (for organ transplants, chronic diseases, severe inflammations, etc.) get exactly the same hormones and substances to supress the immune system, which the body produces under stress.

When you get a disease that has a chance of developing into a serious condition, it is extremely important to rest and not work or do other things that are stressful for the body.
 
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More good news from a worker in the motor trade in the UK. MoT testing has now effectively been suspended for 6 months. You can still take your car for it's MoT, but don't have to. So 99% of people will not, because have you met the general public of course they will not. But garages have not been told to close.

Fucking LOL.

"We are taking away the lifeblood of your business, but stay open though guys and still make money and pay your bills somehow". Thanks very much fuckers. I guess I'll just pray really hard to the money fairy.

Also, stay safe motorists up and down the length of the country. The general public (with the exception of one or two people in about a hundred) do not give a rat's ass about their car, as long as it runs. They know fuck all about how it works and how they should keep it safely maintained in good working order. They have to be told explicitly, after their car has failed it's MoT test, that something is a problem requiring immediate attention before they will as much as lift a finger. I've tested cars with tyres worn right through to the cords, ready to blow out after one good skid. With wheel bearings droning so loud it would deafen you and so much free play that the entire wheel hub is almost due to collapse completely. With brakes just grinding metal to metal. With steering racks so badly worn in their inner joints that driving the car feels like rowing a boat at sea.

People do not give a fuck until you fail their car and basically force them to get off their arse and get it fixed. But fuck it. Let's just stop testing altogether for 6 fucking months and, I guess, just hope that nothing bad happens. Let's hope that nobody drives their deathtrap of a car down a motorway at 85mph, burts a corroded brake pipe or blows out a bald tyre, loses control and plows into a crash barrier or another car. Kills themselves or anybody else. Fuck it. The MoT is only the fucking safety net that does it's best to keep dangerous cars off our roads . Fingers crossed everyone!

What a fucking joke.

Edit: That was me venting because I needed it. I'm not crying for attention or anything. I will sort my shit out in real life, just like everyone else. I just needed to vent, because this decision the government have made is a fucking joke.
 
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Hopes rise for home coronavirus antibody test
3.5 million set to be ordered within weeks

Hopes rise for home coronavirus antibody test
3.5 million set to be ordered within weeks


A home finger-prick test for the coronavirus will be offered to millions of people and delivered by Amazon if checks this week show that it works.

Those who have been tested could be allowed back to work if they have recovered and the tests show that they are immune, offering Britain a gradual route out of the lockdown.

If evaluation reveals that the test is accurate, NHS staff would be offered it in the next few weeks, with the general population gaining access online and in pharmacies.

On a day of cautious optimism over Britain’s response to the coronavirus crisis the government said it believed that the NHS would just about cope after the imposition of social distancing and a rapid increase in the number of intensive care beds.

Chris Whitty, the chief medical officer for England, said that it would be “a close run thing” but added: “We do think that if everybody sticks to staying in your household unless absolutely essential, this gap [between the number of beds and the number of critically ill patients] will probably be manageable by the NHS.”

Among the developments yesterday:

• The scientist whose models precipitated the tougher measures imposed last week said that the death toll could end up being “substantially lower” than 20,000, with most of the fatalities among those who would have died this year anyway.

• NHS chiefs said that they wanted to start testing frontline staff in separate procedures “within days” to avoid those with minor coughs and fevers having to leave work for up to two weeks.

• More than half a million people volunteered to help the NHS in only 24 hours, double the original target.

• The NEC in Birmingham and the Manchester Central Convention Complex will be the next venues converted into makeshift hospitals, among 13 sites to be set up across the country.

• The Department for Work and Pensions is redeploying 10,000 staff and recruiting an additional 1,500 to process the surge in benefits cases as a result of the virus.

• Black cab drivers could be asked to act as a transport service for NHS workers.

• Sir James Dyson has received an order from the government for 10,000 medical ventilators designed by his vacuum cleaner company.

Boris Johnson has described tests that would show whether people had coronavirus as a “total game-changer”, enabling people to know once they were no longer at risk of catching or passing on the virus. “We are massively ramping up our testing programmes, buying in huge numbers of tests,” he said. The government has ordered 3.5 million testing kits from at least three commercial suppliers. Sharon Peacock, director of the national infection service at Public Health England, told MPs yesterday that validation of the kits was due to be completed this week.

The test looks for key markers of the immune response that the body mounts to fight off the virus. The kits can detect them in a droplet drawn from the fingertip. “Several million tests have been purchased for use. We need to evaluate them in the laboratory, because these are brand new products, to be clear that they work as they are claimed to,” Professor Peacock told the science and technology select committee.

“Once they have been tested, and that will happen this week, and the bulk of the tests arrive, they will be distributed into the community in which there will be a mechanism to order a test via Amazon, performed at home and then sent back to see whether they’re positive or negative.”

Likening the technology to a pregnancy test, she said that it would be simple for people to “read the lines” by eye to know if they had been infected, although another version of the test “might require you to go to somewhere like Boots” to have blood checked.

“If you have antibodies you know that you have the infection. It’s not just for key workers, it’s for the general population. Over time we’re expecting that a proportion of the population would be positive and that would allow them to get back to work,” she said. “I would have thought there would be an absolutely minimal charge if there was a charge. Cost should not be a barrier to people having availability of these tests.”

Speaking in Downing Street later, Professor Whitty cautioned that the tests would not be available immediately. “I do not think that this is something we’ll suddenly be ordering on the internet next week.” He said it would be a “dangerous mistake” to rush one into use if it risked wrongly telling people they were immune.

Boots asked people not to go to stores immediately in search of the test.

Jonathan Ashworth, the shadow health secretary, urged Mr Johnson to “outline a national testing plan with NHS and care staff as the priority, alongside clear arrangements for wider community testing. A panicked scramble to buy tests from high street chemists and online is the last thing we need.”

Mr Ashworth also called today for co-ordination between nations to distribute tests, protective equipment and any vaccine that emerges, warning: “Unless we have international cooperation we will not defeat this virus.”

The first British prisoner to die from the coronavirus was an 84-year-old sex offender, the Ministry of Justice confirmed last night. The man, who was one of the oldest prisoners in the UK, died on Sunday at HMP Littlehey, Cambridgeshire. He is believed to have had underlying health issues.

Analysis
Tests that will reveal how many Britons have had Covid-19 and recovered will be essential to plot a course out of the crisis, scientists have said (Rhys Blakely writes).

The government has been criticised for not doing more testing to discover live virus cases in the early stages of the pandemic, but the focus is now moving towards serological testing. This identifies antibodies that show whether a person has contracted Covid-19 and recovered. Matt Hancock, the health secretary, said on Tuesday that 3.5 million antibody tests had been acquired.

However, there are questions over how the data will be used. The overall level of immunity in the population may dictate when restrictions are released, but could those without antibodies be told to stay in lock-down for longer?

A large-scale antibody testing programme could reveal for how long immunity lasts. It may also answer another unknown: can people who have antibodies still carry the virus and infect others, even if they are protected from falling ill themselves?

“Testing for both the virus and the antibody is going to be a critical part of monitoring the effect of the current restrictions. We need to to be able to answer the question of what level of infection we have in this country,” Andrew Preston, reader in microbial pathogenesis at the University of Bath, said.

Q&A
What is the antibody test and how soon does it work?

Tests that look for the virus can only tell you whether your current illness is caused by coronavirus. The antibody test, by contrast, looks for signs in the body’s immune system which linger in the blood long after infection. They are likely to show up about a week after you become ill.

When can I get a test
That will depend on whether they are shown to work. The government has ordered 3.5 million antibody tests from at least three suppliers, and the hope is that one of them will be proven accurate next week after evaluation by Public Health England.

Then can I order one on Amazon?
No — the initial stocks will be allocated to researching how many people have the disease without symptoms, as well as to NHS staff and other key workers.

Why do we need to know how many people have it without symptoms?
The answer to this key unknown could make a huge difference to how long restrictions on daily life must continue. It is known that many people who are infected do not get ill and the government is working on the assumption that about half of cases show no symptoms. However, modelling by researchers at the University of Oxford this week suggested that up to half of Britain might already have been unknowingly infected. This would mean “herd immunity” which stops the spread of the virus could come much sooner.

Who will get the test after NHS staff?
This is still being worked out, but it is likely that the roll-out will begin in one region to check that the model of mass home testing works. No timescale has been set for this.

Where does Amazon come in?
The company’s logistical capability will be used by the government to send out kits, but the test is unlikely to be available for ordering commercially. Instead, people will be allocated a test which Amazon will help to deliver.

Will I be able to buy one in Boots?
One of the tests being evaluated is not a home kit and would require you to go to a pharmacy. The government is in talks with Boots about how this would be rolled out, but it is not yet available. It is also likely to be allocated centrally rather than be available to buy over the counter.

Why can the government get millions of antibody tests when the existing test is so scarce?
The current antigen test for people with symptoms relies not only on specific machines known as PCR readers, but also availability of swabs and, particularly, chemicals known as reagents. These are in short supply globally, while the antibody kit is more readily available.

Will people have to prove they are immune to coronavirus before they go back to work?
The government has yet to decide whether to take people at their word or insist on the verification of test results, but it acknowledges that this is a key issue to be resolved.
 

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I thought I heard they nationalized all the private health care institutions in Spain at the start of the epidemic?
Well I haven't heard of that and that is not what appears on the link and El Pais is a serious source. But I have no idea
 

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Hopes rise for home coronavirus antibody test
3.5 million set to be ordered within weeks
It would be an extremely helpful test, but I don't know how one could distinguish between recovered and mild symptoms people with this test alone.

Antibodies are in the organism after you have defeated the decease.
But they are also in, while you are still fighting.
 
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Well I haven't heard of that and that is not what appears on the link and El Pais is a serious source. But I have no idea
March 16 -
Spain has nationalized all of its private hospitals as the country goes into coronavirus lockdown

 

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Think Brasil goverment took the "we will die someday anyway" approach so fuck Corona lest come back to regular life.

Some will die ...its nature selection...

Will be nuts in some weeks being there
Our President is a MORON and he is talking to the walls, nobody is listening to him, he had a HUUUUUGE backlash, and people are follow the government orders. Stay in home.

He is basically alone.
 
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Let's be honest though, all nationalist sensationalist leaders that preferred wall street and bankers over their own people will fall the same fate.

edit: You reap what you sow motherfuckers.
 
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It would be an extremely helpful test, but I don't know how one could distinguish between recovered and mild symptoms people with this test alone.

Antibodies are in the organism after you have defeated the decease.
But they are also in, while you are still fighting.
I presume the test differentiates in some fashion - I don't have the science skills but smarter people than me seem to think it works. If we can figure out who's got it and who's had it, and can do so with a cheap test that can be mailed out to people easily, we can make very real progress on stopping the spread and get lockdown removed far more quickly.
 

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Our worst nightmare is happening. We can't do this do our health care workers. We can't. This is America, the best country in the world.

How well can CPAP machines work to mitigate supply-constraints of ventilators? Can they replicate many of the features of ventilators?
 

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Some positive take on this (and they talked about global pandemic possibility in november)

I was thinking about it yesterday. At current time Coronavirus is most likely saving lives. Hundreds of millions of people are in lock down and not traveling. Car accidents must be in the all time low.

I'm just trying to find any positives in this current situation...
 

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its also saving me like $40 a week in public transport fees. Will probably lose my job within the next month or so, so theres that tho...
 

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I asked for a lay-off yesterday. Fuck . This.

Im not going into the city for bullshit work. If they mobilize us for emergency work I’ll go out but I’m minimizing risk potential as much as I can.

I had been going to work wearing gloves and a n95, and washing my hands every 30 mins almost ... but... Nah... I’m gonna stay home and masturbate for 4 months

I get a feeling they’re gonna call me back out in a week tho...:messenger_confounded:
 
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sinnergy

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Our worst nightmare is happening. We can't do this do our health care workers. We can't. This is America, the best country in the world.


This virus doesn’t give a shit , best country in the world 🤣 you let Trump sit on The thrown, it’s Spanish flu all over again and mankind that thinks it’s invincible.

What we collective did is look at what happens in China and did jack shit to prepare, we had the chance from January to get ventilators , do research, lock down, stop flights ...

The world is run by idiots and slow turning bureaucratic money grabbers .. joe regular who used the internet and saw China knew this was coming months ago
 
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crowbrow

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Spain has nationalized all of its private hospitals as the country goes into coronavirus lockdown

Is not all of them

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/16/coronavirus-spain-takes-over-private-healthcare-amid-more-european-lockdowns

In Spain, where the coronavirus toll climbed to 309 on Monday with 9,191 confirmed cases, the government announced sweeping measures allowing it to take over private healthcare providers and requisition materials such as face masks and Covid-19 tests.

The health minister, Salvador Illa, said private healthcare facilities would be requisitioned for coronavirus patients, and manufacturers and suppliers of healthcare equipment must notify the government within 48 hours.
 

crowbrow

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This virus doesn’t give a shit , best country in the world 🤣 you let Trump sit on The thrown, it’s Spanish flu all over again and mankind that thinks it’s invincible.

What we collective did is look at what happens in China and did jack shit to prepare, we had the chance from January to get ventilators , do research, lock down, stop flights ...

The world is run by idiots and slow turning bureaucratic money grabbers .. joe regular who used the internet and saw China knew this was coming months ago
They knew in the government, they were selling stocks like crazy because they knew what was coming. Now they are trying to blame it all on China when they also fucked up big time.
 

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Dude is now on oxygen

I’ve been working on a detailed update, but haven’t had the energy to finish it. I’ve largely stopped responding to texts, calls, messages and emails because communication has become exhausting. Unfortunately I haven’t started getting better, and seem to be going the other direction. I’m hopeful that is going to change soon. I was put on supplemental oxygen last night, which has helped. The staff here are amazing, and are doing everything they can to keep me comfortable and get me healthy. I plan on walking out of here, and being with my wife and child again.


Thank you for all the support and encouragement. It helps so muc
 
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