full source code:
https://github.com/CRYTEK-CRYENGINE/CRYENGINE
apparently hot off the press, no additional info atm
https://github.com/CRYTEK-CRYENGINE/CRYENGINE
apparently hot off the press, no additional info atm
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CryEngine open sourced
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HighResTomato
Member
Why would they do this?
Norwegian_Imposter
Member
who knows perhaps they saw the technical shit show that is Homefront the revolution?
Candescence
Member
Well, this is a bombshell. First Lumberyard, now this. Something must be up at Crytek.
DarkLordMalik
Member
They going broke?
MightyHedgehog
Member
A bid to spur adoption in a market dominated by Unity and Unreal?
Some clarifications, as I see a lot of misinformation ads speculation here:
- We have today released engine source code of CRYENGINE (latest build being last week's 5.1) on GitHub
- The GitHub release today is new, but we announced at GDC back in March that we would release full engine source code under our new "Pay What You Want" business model
- Commercial games: If you so chose, you can take the engine and make a full commercial game for free, yes. There are no royalties or obligations towards CRYENGINE, though contributions to the engine's development and/ or our Indie Development Fund are more than welcome
- EULA: I usually give ESRB ratings as an example. If your game would get a "M" (or 18 in Europe), it is fine. If there is content that would require it to be rated "Adult's Only", chances are it violates our EULA.
- Licensees: There are more indie developers than ever using CE for their games these days, and also some unannounced titles from larger companies...
I hope this clears it up. Shoot if you have any questions
nortonff
Hi, I'm nortonff. I spend my life going into threads to say that I don't care about the topic of the thread. It's a really good use of my time.
They probably played Homefront: The Revolution and thought ohww fuck this engine.
Dictator93
Member
It looks like it is sticking!
Because CryEngine is old as hell now - why not?
How would you come to that conclusion? As far as I checked it is the current version at least not some legacy version
License seems to remain unchanged
CassidyIzABeast
Member
Crytek has to be on the verge of shutting down.
Dictator93
Member
RazorbackDB
Member
I suspect this is like UE4 source (I didn't read any of the terms).
This is the latest one.
The summary of the license terms by one of the developers:
It seems to be a lot like Red Hat's business model.
MrCunningham
Member
This is amazing and unexpected. Especially with Amazon releasing their own branch of the engine under Lumberyard.
That's even more amazing. This is outright mindblowing.
That's even more amazing. This is outright mindblowing.
I wish people wouldn't refer to this as Open Source. It isn't.
It is full source access but you're still bound by their license, as opposed to a Free license or copyleft license.
Candescence
Member
My programmer team-mate on my current project has major reservations about the license, though, since the license explicitly states that Crytek can change it whenever they want, however they want, which lets them do stuff like force devs to pay royalties when they couldn't before, if they wanted to.
What in the world is a copyleft license?
Edit: I googled it and learned something new. Never came across this phrase before today.
Because it just says CryEngine with no indication of which version. Based on what theyve said before about following UE4's model I'd expect it to be CryEngine 4 though.
A license that allows you to retain ownership and modifications of the code. I'm referring specifically to OSI approved licenses like MIT, BSD, GPL etc.
Between Unreal and Unity, they are the big loser of the engine war. So, this might be their drastic way of trying to get some marketshare back.
ashecitism
Member
This is what I thought.
Chainsawkitten
Member
MIT and BSD aren't copyleft. GPL is copyleft because it requires derivative works to be released under an equivalent license.
What would those licenses be called? Permissive Licenses?
Chainsawkitten
Member
Yeah, permissive (no share-alike clause) or free (general free software, including copyleft).
MrCunningham
Member
Yeah, I was looking at their licensing agreement, and it is a bit wacky. It seems like they want to do this but they also have some reserves about letting their baby go out into the wild.
This one is a bit bizarre:
"use the CryEngine for the development of any Games which are harmful, abusive, racially or ethnically offensive, vulgar, sexually explicit, defamatory, infringing, invasive of personal privacy or publicity rights, or in a reasonable person's view, objectionable;"
I get why they are protective in this manor, bit it is a bit strange and very subjective in some cases.
But overall, this is still more positive than negative.
RealityCheque
Banned
Writing is on the wall for them. It seems to be a UE4 world now. Are there any major games coming in the near future that use CryEngine?
Well then that's the end of my racist, sexist, nude, spwyare infested puzzle game.
Well then that's the end of my racist, sexist, nude, spwyare infested puzzle game.
MrCunningham
Member
There still seems to be some CryEngine 3, 4 and 5 games in development: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_CryEngine_games
Heh. But they should be a little more specific with regulations, maybe go by ERSB definitions? Anything that could garnish an M rating should be fine, but AO territory things are out.
Nop, those are free software. Open source doesn't require a copyleft license.
Some clarifications, as I see a lot of misinformation ads speculation here:
- We have today released engine source code of CRYENGINE (latest build being last week's 5.1) on GitHub
- The GitHub release today is new, but we announced at GDC back in March that we would release full engine source code under our new "Pay What You Want" business model
- Commercial games: If you so chose, you can take the engine and make a full commercial game for free, yes. There are no royalties or obligations towards CRYENGINE, though contributions to the engine's development and/ or our Indie Development Fund are more than welcome
- EULA: I usually give ESRB ratings as an example. If your game would get a "M" (or 18 in Europe), it is fine. If there is content that would require it to be rated "Adult's Only", chances are it violates our EULA.
- Licensees: There are more indie developers than ever using CE for their games these days, and also some unannounced titles from larger companies...
I hope this clears it up. Shoot if you have any questions
- We have today released engine source code of CRYENGINE (latest build being last week's 5.1) on GitHub
- The GitHub release today is new, but we announced at GDC back in March that we would release full engine source code under our new "Pay What You Want" business model
- Commercial games: If you so chose, you can take the engine and make a full commercial game for free, yes. There are no royalties or obligations towards CRYENGINE, though contributions to the engine's development and/ or our Indie Development Fund are more than welcome
- EULA: I usually give ESRB ratings as an example. If your game would get a "M" (or 18 in Europe), it is fine. If there is content that would require it to be rated "Adult's Only", chances are it violates our EULA.
- Licensees: There are more indie developers than ever using CE for their games these days, and also some unannounced titles from larger companies...
I hope this clears it up. Shoot if you have any questions
Yeah, should have added Free license too. As defined by wikipedia
This doesn't fall under all of those principles. Whether that matters is, of course, up in the air.
Danlord
Member
Some clarifications, as I see a lot of misinformation ads speculation here:
- We have today released engine source code of CRYENGINE (latest build being last week's 5.1) on GitHub
- The GitHub release today is new, but we announced at GDC back in March that we would release full engine source code under our new "Pay What You Want" business model
- Commercial games: If you so chose, you can take the engine and make a full commercial game for free, yes. There are no royalties or obligations towards CRYENGINE, though contributions to the engine's development and/ or our Indie Development Fund are more than welcome
- EULA: I usually give ESRB ratings as an example. If your game would get a "M" (or 18 in Europe), it is fine. If there is content that would require it to be rated "Adult's Only", chances are it violates our EULA.
- Licensees: There are more indie developers than ever using CE for their games these days, and also some unannounced titles from larger companies...
I hope this clears it up. Shoot if you have any questions
Quick question, why don't you want adult only rated games using CryEngine?
oh, for some reason I just assumed with out the V it meant the original. So yeh following in the footsteps of the UE4 I guess
No more than one could do the same for UE4.
You don't even have to pretend anything, it's royalty-free already.
At the end of the day, there are just certain things and games that we as a company don't want to be associated with.
In that case however, we are talking about hardcore adult content, or racist etc stuff. Our very own Ryse, for example, certainly didn't skimp on the violence or nudity.
A bit odd question, but how long have you been with Crytek?I hope this clears it up. Shoot if you have any questions