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Cuomo allegations: What do Democrats who believed Kavanaugh accusations think?

DeepEnigma

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Kavanaugh and Cuomo both denied allegations against them

Many leading Democrats who demanded an investigation into Christine Blasey Ford’s sexual misconduct allegations against Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh are less outspoken about the accusations against New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo.

Ford told the Washington Post in 2018 that Kavanaugh "groped" her and made unwelcome advances in 1982 when they were high school students at different schools.

Earlier this week, former Cuomo aide Lindsey Boylan wrote in a post on Medium that Cuomo had made unwanted advances toward her, forcibly kissed her and suggested she "play strip poker" with him.

ANDREW CUOMO ACCUSED OF SEXUAL HARASSMENT; LEADING LIBERAL WOMEN REFUSE COMMENT

Kavanaugh and Cuomo both denied the allegations.



But Cuomo had called Kavanaugh's eventual Supreme Court confirmation a "sham" and said it would energize Americans "to fight even harder for our shared vision for a better future for all."

He also suggested the new Supreme Court justice take a polygraph test.



The White House appeared to distance itself from Cuomo Thursday, with press secretary Jen Psaki saying "any allegation should be reviewed."

Sens. Dianne Feinstein, Amy Klobuchar, Mazie Hirono, Patrick Leahy, Cory Booker, Richard Blumenthal – all of whom were among the Democratic members of the Senate Judiciary Committee during Kavanaugh's nomination hearings in 2018 – did not respond to questions about whether Ford’s allegations were any different from those of Boylan.

Democrats had painted the claims against Kavanaugh as at least worthy of an investigation and possibly disqualifying, while their Republican counterparts argued he had a right to due process.


Christine Blasey Ford is sworn in before the Senate Judiciary Committee, Thursday, Sept. 27, 2018, in Washington. (Win McNamee/Pool Image via AP) (2018 Getty Images)

"At a bare minimum, this week’s scheduled committee vote on Judge Kavanaugh’s lifetime appointment to the Supreme Court must be postponed until this matter is fully and thoroughly investigated," Booker said at the time.

CUOMO ACCUSED OF SEXUAL HARASSMENT BY FORMER AIDE

"Her story is credible, and I believe her," Hirono said of Ford in a 2018 statement. "As I said during the hearing, this is why the #MeToo movement is so important, because often in these situations, there is an environment where people see nothing, hear nothing, and say nothing. That is what we have to change."

"She had a lot of credibility when she spoke about her memories from that night," Klobuchar said of Ford’s testimony during a 2018 interview with NPR.


Lindsey Boylan attends The 9th Annual Elly Awards Hosted By The Women's Forum Of New York on June 17, 2019, in New York City. (Mike Coppola/Getty Images for Women's Forum of New York) (Getty Images)

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, who in a statement in 2018 declared, "I believe Dr. Christine Blasey Ford," also declined to comment.

Sen. Elizabeth Warren questioned whether Kavanaugh was "hiding" something during his confirmation process. She declined to comment on the Boylan case.



And Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand, an outspoken supporter of women’s rights who had blasted former Senate colleague Al Franken, D-Minn., as he was ousted following his own misconduct allegations in 2018, did not respond to Fox News’ requests for comment on her home-state governor.

She told reporters later Thursday: "These allegations are serious and deeply concerning and anyone has a right to come forward to be heard and to have allegations be investigated. Gov. Cuomo also has a right to be heard and he has come forward and has denied these allegations, but ultimately the decision will be up to the state Legislature."



In 2018, she argued on Twitter that the #MeToo movement boiled down to a single question:

"Do we value women?" she wrote. "Dr. Christine Blasey Ford deserves to tell her story. She deserves respect and a full investigation."

Some New York Democrats have demanded a probe into the Boylan accusations, including state Assemblyman Ron Kim, who has feuded with the governor over reports that the Cuomo administration had underreported coronavirus deaths among senior citizens in care facilities by as much as 50%.



"With any allegation there, there has to be a due process," Cuomo’s fellow New York Democrat Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez said Thursday.

In 2018, she said Kavanaugh had been "credibly accused of sexual assault," despite a lack of evidence, and claimed he would lie under oath



Her office ignored requests for comment on the allegations against Cuomo Wednesday, but she later told reporters that responsibility to investigate the governor "falls squarely in the state Legislature" – which is controlled by Democrats.

"And so defining what that process looks like in the in the state Legislature is something that I'd certainly defer to them," she said.

Elias Farah, a member of the Sexual Harassment Working Group, a bipartisan group formed to combat sexual harassment at New York’s State Capitol by lawmakers and their aides, told Fox News Thursday that the state’s current legislative investigative body is not sufficiently independent from Cuomo to conduct a comprehensive probe.



He noted that when state lawmakers are accused of misconduct, they have nearly unlimited access to legal resources – on the taxpayers’ dime. Oftentimes, those attorneys bill the state far more than the victims are even asking for, he said.

He also referenced the infamous Moreland Commission – Cuomo’s handpicked anti-corruption panel -- which the governor dismissed amid allegations he was interfering with investigations into his allies in 2014.

"Taxpayers should actually ask – why isn’t there an independent commission?" Farah said. "This is America. We’re not a fascist state. We’re not a communist state."

The SHWG demanded an immediate independent investigation into Boylan’s allegations Wednesday.

"If people are gonna come out and speak against somebody like Kavanaugh, they also need to speak out against the governor," Farah said.

He also said accusers deserve their own due process when they come forward with allegations.

"I know personally that is not an easy thing to do," he said, referring to his sexual harassment case against his ex-boss, former GOP state Rep. Angela Wozniak. "And if you’re going to subject yourself to the criticism that’s going to come with that, you must have some veracity to your statements."

 
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DeepEnigma

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NeoGAF has an excellent search function. If you had taken a few seconds to use it, you will have found that I did not believe the allegations against Kavanaugh.
I know you didn't, I am asking you to holla at your party members for their "double standards."

Hold that consistency to task, innit.
 

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I know you didn't, I am asking you to holla at your party members for their "double standards."

Hold that consistency to task, innit.

There have been many times we've done that. You'll also notice a great amount of Democrats already calling on Cuomo to resign due to the nursing home scandal. I personally believe he should be prosecuted for that.
 

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There have been many times we've done that. You'll also notice a great amount of Democrats already calling on Cuomo to resign due to the nursing home scandal. I personally believe he should be prosecuted for that.
So what about the most outspoken leaders clamming the hell up now over the topic. Double standards?
 

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The Democrat is everything they claim to be against and their hive mind supporters lap it up because they think they're "winning." You're being manipulated by people who do not give a single crap about you.

The Democrat Party is the party of racism, war, censorship, conspiracy theories, misinformation, etc.

None of the above should be read as me backing the GOP. Stop viewing things through a partisan lens and recognize that the Democrat Party does not care about you. The sooner you realize that the sooner you can free your mind from the nonsense they've been pushing for years.
 

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You being wrong is not a deflection on my part. Whether you like him or not, it would be difficult to argue that DiBlasio is not outspoken.
I asked you a question about those in the article on sexual allegations, you refused to answer and deflect on those who have nothing to do with Kavanaugh circus's false altruism. Keep them standards strong! 💪:messenger_weary::messenger_ok:
 
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I asked you a question about those in the article on sexual allegations, you refused to answer and deflect on those who have nothing to do with Kavanaugh circus and false altruism. Keep them standards strong! 💪:messenger_weary::messenger_ok:

I condemned Cuomo and pointed out Democratic leaders who had. Just as you asked. Quit trying to move the goalpost.
 
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DiBlasio doesn’t count .. he hates Cuomo

where are Schumer and Gillibrand?
All I asked was if he believes those in the article that were hard on for Kavanaugh are using double standards... and he deflects on people that have nothing to do with the article or this specific incident refusing to answer yes or no.

But I'm moving the goalpost.

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Well, lets face it, whenever these kind of things happen, people react totally differently when the guy is on their side.
And there is hypocrisy, lies and cover-ups....every single time.

But what is surprising is there is near silence from Republicans, Cuomo is literally all over the place, over his Covid screwup, over this...
what is stopping Lindsay Graham to come out gun blazing? Make him uncomfortable in his pajamas.
 

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Well, lets face it, whenever these kind of things happen, people react totally differently when the guy is on their side.
And there is hypocrisy, lies and cover-ups....every single time.

But what is surprising is there is near silence from Republicans, Cuomo is literally all over the place, over his Covid screwup, over this...
what is stopping Lindsay Graham to come out gun blazing? Make him uncomfortable in his pajamas.
I think it’s smart to let the Democrats twist in the wind here.
 
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I think if anything this just shows 3 things: that whataboutism is stupid, both sides are hypocrites when it comes to extramarital sex and harassment, prostitution should be legalized in the U.S so government officials don’t have to prey on their subordinates to get their rocks off.
 

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Oh... Democratic leaders... but that one doesn't count. Gillibrand has condemned Democrats before for alleged sexual harassment. Remember Al Franken?
how to put it...what they're trying to highlight is that allies circle the wagons, which they shouldn't. They were willing to immediately jump on the first chance to hang Kavanaugh even with treash evidence. but they'll play teh careful game about Cuomo's accusers because they're allies.

Deblasio is not Cuomo's ally(because of their feud). Tho that's on them for doing a poor job at expressing that beforehand.

I think if anything this just shows 3 things: that whataboutism is stupid, both sides are hypocrites when it comes to extramarital sex and harassment, prostitution should be legalized in the U.S so government officials don’t have to prey on their subordinates to get their rocks off.
Plus I could start hiring sissies and bullying their butts. If Dems managed to federally legalize prostitution, I'd consider throwing away my vote for an election cycle.

Buy my vote with Sissy Buttholes! It'd be more than the black community got out of Biden!
 
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prostitution should be legalized in the U.S so government officials don’t have to prey on their subordinates to get their rocks off.
Workplace sexual abuse is more about asserting power than need of sexual release.


I think it’s smart to let the Democrats twist in the wind here.
"If one wants to defeat the pigs, one has to be prepared to wrestle them in the muds"
 

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Workplace sexual abuse is more about asserting power than need of sexual release.
so is prostitution for anyone who isn't just barely able to afford them.

"I rented this person whose job is to please me sexually" is a power dynamic.
 

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how to put it...what they're trying to highlight is that allies circle the wagons, which they shouldn't. They were willing to immediately jump on the first chance to hang Kavanaugh even with treash evidence. but they'll play teh careful game about Cuomo's accusers because they're allies.

Deblasio is not Cuomo's ally(because of their feud). Tho that's on them for doing a poor job at expressing that beforehand.


Plus I could start hiring sissies and bullying their butts. If Dems managed to federally legalize prostitution, I'd consider throwing away my vote for an election cycle.

Buy my vote with Sissy Buttholes! It'd be more than the black community got out of Biden!
Or at least decriminalize it. We’re probably not ready for streets with ladies in store window displays like Amsterdam or Germany but it’s the worlds oldest profession and like drugs criminalization only hurts people in an already shitty situation by forcing them to work with pimps or cartels to make a living. I’m against legislating morality in general. Would put a huge dent in human trafficking too.
 
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"I rented this person whose job is to please me sexually" is a power dynamic.

In some cases, yes, but not in all.
Some people just need a release, which they don't get.

Let's take a step back and look at this case.
Cuomo has a rumoured GF, who happens to share facial similarity with Ms Boylan.
At some point, he started calling Ms Boylan by his GF's name!

I may not be the best reader of human psyche, but clearly Cuomo just wanted to assert his power.
And with that power, he grew confidence that made him think "I got a girl who looks like Ms Boylan, why can't I get her too?".
 

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prostitution should be legalized in the U.S so government officials don’t have to prey on their subordinates to get their rocks off.
That won't solve anything. How about just not be rapey and have professional decorum in the work place?

Predatory people drive off the high from the perceived forbidden fruit in the power dynamic. These people can easily have escorts and more than likely they do, it doesn't stop them from doing what they do either. Different dopamine hits feeding the festering sociopathic egos.
 

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We all know damn well. Look at how Tara Reide was just swep under the rug like it was nothing.The modern Left are just devoid of ethics, morals, scruples just communists in sheeps clothing. Power grabbers and screw anyone who gets in the way.

I think most powerful institutions are this way. Something about power corrupts humans more than even money in my observation. It just so happens that money usually leads to power.
 
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Or at least decriminalize it. We’re probably not ready for streets with ladies in store window displays like Amsterdam or Germany but it’s the worlds oldest profession and like drugs criminalization only hurts people in an already shitty situation by forcing them to work with pimps or cartels to make a living. I’m against legislating morality in general. Would put a huge dent in human trafficking too.
Legalize and regulate brothels, but on the street whorin' is probably not a safe sort of environment. It also puts someone accountable if something happens inside a business. in theory, at least.
 
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I'm inclined to believe Cuomo's accuser here.

I found Blasie Ford believable as well, and It think Kavanugh handled himself very badly in ways they didn't help his credibility, but given how old the accusations were it's pretty hard to say either way.

I believed Tara Reade at first but it eventually became pretty clear she was full of shit.
 

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Legalize and regulate brothels, but on the street whorin' is probably not a safe sort of environment. It also puts someone accountable if something happens inside a business. in theory, at least.
I dunno if street hookers are still even a thing to be honest. Other than like homeless crackheads.
 

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I'm inclined to believe Cuomo's accuser here.

I found Blasie Ford believable as well, and It think Kavanugh handled himself very badly in ways they didn't help his credibility, but given how old the accusations were it's pretty hard to say either way.

I believed Tara Reade at first but it eventually became pretty clear she was full of shit.
I'm just curious, what is it that made Blasey Ford believable to you but Reade full of shit? Because my personal feelings are the exact opposite.
 

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I'm just curious, what is it that made Blasey Ford believable to you but Reade full of shit? Because my personal feelings are the exact opposite.
Tara Reade's history of compulsive lying and manipulative behavior, the fact that she's sort of an indigent and and the fact that her account took place somewhere that didn't exist.

Ford was inconclusive with me, nothing about her was setting off any alarm bells. It doesn't help that Kavanugh was lying about inane shit on the stand, like that seriously undermined his credibility to me.

I don't know anything about the woman accusing Cuomo, my mind is not made up, but he just seems like the type to me.
 
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Tara Reade's history of compulsive lying and manipulative behavior, the fact that she's sort of an indigent and and the fact that her account took place somewhere that didn't exist.

Ford was inconclusive with me, nothing about her was setting off any alarm bells. It doesn't help that Kavanugh was lying about inane shit on the stand, like that seriously undermined his credibility to me.

I don't know anything about the woman accusing Cuomo, my mind is not made up, but he just seems like the type to me.
It’s two former aids accusing him now
 
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Tara Reade's history of compulsive lying and manipulative behavior, the fact that she's sort of an indigent and and the fact that her account took place somewhere that didn't exist.

Ford was inconclusive with me, nothing about her was setting off any alarm bells. It doesn't help that Kavanugh was lying about inane shit on the stand, like that seriously undermined his credibility to me.

I don't know anything about the woman accusing Cuomo, my mind is not made up, but he just seems like the type to me.
Ford literally lied about the door change at her house among many other events like naming witnesses that weren't there, and said she is FoS, her own named witnesses.

Biden is on camera countless times fondling & smelling women and children, invading their private spaces, and bragged his whole career about abusing his power over people, out of his mouth, on camera for 47+ years of sound bites.

Honk honk!
 
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