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CVG: No Nintendo hardware reveal this E3 company confirms
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DragonSworne
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Nintendo would have been better off financially by killing Wii U than losing money trying to force its success in a market not receptive to the concept. So it really is a "really believing in ourselves gee whiz" mentality, especially given Iwata past quotes on the matter.
QoL is a new platform. Platforms take time to build. A new video game platform takes 2-3 years to build. QoL should be similar given the scope.
If Nintendo had been working on a new platform since march 2013 an announcement at E3 of a Wii U replacement would put it at the right time line. Given that we won't hear anything then Nintendo hasn't put much effort in QoL or a new replacement for Wii U. That or they have only recently begun work on a new platform.
Metallix87
Member
Are you suggesting Nintendo has only been working on QoL since March?
DragonSworne
Banned
March of this year.
axisofweevils
Holy crap! Today's real megaton is that more than two people can have the same first name.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2014-05-02-nintendo-denies-reports-of-new-hardware-at-e3-2014
Another denial on Eurogamer.
Another denial on Eurogamer.
I find it more interesting that he thinks he knows what Nintendo is doing and should do.
This has never worked for anyone.
Metallix87
Member
Really? Nintendo has a history of only announcing products when they're nearing release. There are exceptions, sure, but I'm guessing this has been in the works for quite some time.
Mysterious
Banned
... you really are something.
metalslimer
Member
I still think there will be a revision coming this year; however I don't think it would be announced at E3 as I don't think they would want to cut into their sales.
DragonSworne
Banned
Why not? It was pretty clear by then Wii U was done. Developer support dried up around that time when GDC happened.
akidnamededdy
Banned
I would be really interested in hearing why you think any of the bolded stuff. Preferably with sources or an explanation of your vast business understanding and education.
Metallix87
Member
If it's a revision, it could potentially release in Summer, though.
If the Wii U was done, we wouldn't be getting software for it now, would we?
graywolf323
Member
just because they deny it doesn't mean it's not true
I'd say a 3DS revision is possible, though, I don't believe there will be any hardware or revision announcement at E3.
vagabondarts
Member
I thought Nintendo's official stance was not commenting on rumor or speculation?
Since this thread has become a discussion about Dragonswornes expectation, I want to point out axis post as a reminder.
Aquamarine
Member
Officially yes, but Nintendo is a very...contradictory company.
There are times where NCL acts contrary to their official PR stance, especially when it comes to speculation regarding imminent announcements.
Metallix87
Member
The wording says "at E3", so during the Direct is still a possibility, if they're trying to be honest but sneaky.
Metallix87
Member
3DS came out over three years ago. 2015 is a good time for a successor.
dantevsninjas
Member
What doesn't one have to do with the other? Why would you announce new hardware at E3 if you aren't going to have a conference? They're not going to announce a new console on a ND stream during E3 and risk it getting swallowed up among the noise of E3. Just do it a few weeks before/after, or really, whenever.
Possibly, but I can't think of a necessary revision. There's already 3 versions of the 3DS, and I can't imagine what kind of benefit they'd see from a WiiU revision, or at least, any revision that wouldn't be drastic enough to split the user base.
Point out one credible rumour that Nintendo will show off a new console at or around E3. Just one.
Metallix87
Member
That sounds like he's talking about his presentation, not necessarily the hardware and concept.
xDUMPWEEDx
Banned
Yep, "no new hardware" will be their official position up until the very second they announce it.
You could ask them 30 seconds before the unveiling and they would still deny it and call it speculation.
So many people new to following the industry in this thread...
Ugh. They neither denied XL nor Lite.
Metallix87
Member
The Direct basically IS a conference, and the new hardware could be on the floor for people to experience.
I'm more inclined to think 3DS will coincide with the whole generation and somewhat resemble the original DS as far as its lifespan goes, but fair enough.
Mysterious
Banned
Yeah it kind of went like this:
"So is there going to be a DS revision?"
"What's a DS revision? What are you talking about?"
Whereas this is explicitly saying "We will not announce any new hardware during E3 in Los Angeles."
Agreed. They would only be pulling a Sega if they did that.
Aquamarine
Member
It's been in development at the very latest since Iwata announced it in his late January investor conference.
March is way too late.
dantevsninjas
Member
A conference that likely wouldn't be seen by the people in attendance at E3 until after E3, which would defeat the purpose of announcing at E3. If your looking to exclusively reach the public, there are better times to do so.
plank
Member
After the MK8 Direct I have no doubt they came out right away because this rumor could potentially kill sales of WiiU.
Metallix87
Member
Nonsense. The Direct is before the show floor opens, and they will be watching. Stop spewing nonsense and think for a moment.
Considering how it's going to be announced this year, and released during the next fiscal year (starting from April 1st, 2015), I suppose it's in development since...quite earlier than this January. Maybe even from...mid-to-Q3 2013?
Again: Point out one credible rumour that Nintendo will show off a new console at or around E3. Just one.
Yep. Or with the WiiU and 3DS leaks, they announced the hardware months before E3.
Hmm, yeah, you're probably right. It's unlikely he'd focus on talking to investers about a random idea that hadn't come to fruition yet when it's due next year.
Metallix87
Member
I dont have to. Whether they announce or not is irrelevant. My point was that IF there is an announcement, it would be handheld, not console, since we're due a successor next year, IMO.
I called it in the previous thread and i wasn't really shocked to learn that the rumor was bull.
But i feel like i had to say once more that the campaign run by certain game media to shit on Nintendo's effort to sell some WiiU's, especially now a few weeks before one of the most important releases on the console, that is MK8 is ranging from blatant ignorance and greed for clicks to outright suspicious.
I agree with those that suggested that GAF should reconsider which sites and publications bear any credibility and take action.
But i feel like i had to say once more that the campaign run by certain game media to shit on Nintendo's effort to sell some WiiU's, especially now a few weeks before one of the most important releases on the console, that is MK8 is ranging from blatant ignorance and greed for clicks to outright suspicious.
I agree with those that suggested that GAF should reconsider which sites and publications bear any credibility and take action.
dantevsninjas
Member
Follow your own advice. It's not going to happen. It was a silly idea in the first place, and clearly just the product of someone cooking up a way to get some hits on their site.
Metallix87
Member
I follow my own advice. I never said it would happen. All I have said is:
- If it were to happen, it would be a handheld and not a console.
- The Direct is technically not "at E3", so they could get away with this "lie".
- We are due a 3DS successor around next year.
Console means home and handheld. Anyway: Point out one credible rumour that Nintendo will show off a new handheld at or around E3. Just one.
How are we "due" a 3DS successor around next year? Considering the GameBoy lasted 12 years and the DS 7 years...
xDUMPWEEDx
Banned
We are over a month away from E3, what do you expect them to say at this point? "Uhhh... we are not sure?"
Even if this announcement was true (which I don't think it is anyways) there's no way they would say anything other than "no new hardware" right now, if they said anything at all.
They confirmed WiiU and 3DS months in advance when leaks surfaced.
I'd expect them to trot out the usual "We don't comment on rumours or speculation".
dantevsninjas
Member
Literally no signs point to this. It's only been three years. We're not "due" a 3DS successor for at least another 2 years, probably more. That's ignoring the fact that there's no guarantee that Nintendo (or anyone, for that matter) will even make another handheld console, given the unfortunate shift in that segment of the industry.