Metallix87
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3DS sales have declined far faster than those systems.
AGAIN, I never suggested there were.
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Snkfanatic
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I must have seriously missed something. I have no idea what QoL is...guess it is time to do some research.
So new software?
And again, they never denied XL.
Your opening statement was their denial gives some credibility to the rumour.
Only than DS really. Game Boy had a weird lifecycle.
7DollarHagane
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I'm not sure if this is a joke post but obviously they are attending. And I'm more interested in games than hardware from them.
ActStriker
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AniHawk'd
Interceptor
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This would be funny if not half the internet would fell for this.
Metallix87
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They've already expended their biggest titles.
Because they almost never outright deny rumors. Very unusual.
On the contrary, the increase in reputation and credibility gained by supporting the Wii U is more than worth the short term losses it may incur. No one would doubt a Nintendo platform again. It would be worth every single penny.
Iwata said:
So there would have been no development on QOL last year since it wasn't even conceptualised. Actual physical development started anytime between January and now.
Iwata said:
Even Nintendo employees were thinking Nintendo = Videogames = Console+Handheld. So there's been no planning on this QOL, this is going to be based on pure inspiration. I'm guessing a lot of Nintendo employees are excited working on the project and others are panicking at the deadline. LOL.
Possible things: New IP, localisation, Pokemon Z, the Pikachu game has been confirmed, Square just started the Bravely IP... let it go.
And that gives credibility? The hell? Should they have said that the bollocks rumour is true?
Metallix87
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Those are mostly follow ups to content on the system. They won't move a ton of hardware.
Also, stop telling me to let it go. My logic is sound.
Metallix87
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Again, he could be referencing the presentation, not the concept and hardware.
7DollarHagane
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okay i guess it was a joke. figured it had to be!
We don't know how many units will be moved, we only know Nintendo wants to bring more software. Money and all that.
As sound as Dragonsworne, but that contributes nothing to the topic at hand.
Graphics Horse
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After looking at this again and seeing
"I didn’t know the difference between us and household appliance makers.”
I don't think that's true. He was just looking at a way of framing their future 'non wearable' products, some which might be in development already.
Non wearables to me can only mean they're going into household appliances, I've been saying that since January but never actually spotted him namechecking household appliances, so thanks for quoting that.
thecouncil
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I'll believe it when I don't see it.
*dust hands off*
Alright.
...and now to get myself so goddamned hyped that anything short of a free Wii U 2 will make it the worst conference ever known to man.
*dust hands off*
Alright.
...and now to get myself so goddamned hyped that anything short of a free Wii U 2 will make it the worst conference ever known to man.
ArchedThunder
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Both of those are wrong.
Gameboy lasted 9 years, the GBC was a different console. The DS lasted a little bit over 6 years.
Metallix87
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Now you're just spewing nonsense. Comparing my point to DragonSworne's is absurd.
I'm done wasting my time with you.
ArchedThunder
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Did you completely miss last year? The 3DS had a metric fuck load of big games released last year and it still came up short on hardware sales compared to the previous year.
Both of you want your analysm to be discussed, while this thread is about wrong rumours Nintendo denied ( and you "therefore" claimed there must be some truth to them.)
Decreased in Japan, increased in the rest of the world. Now look at Animal Crossings release dates.
They never denied XL.
Metallix87
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Stop misrepresenting my argument. I said it makes me think the rumor is more credible, a.k.a. believable, not that there must be some truth to it.
Are you actually serious? The 3DS is selling a lot, lot worse than either system and is facing much more dangerous competition. Nintendo can't sit around doing nothing like they used to in the past.
Yes, but prematurely bringing out a successor is not the solution
Regardless of whether the DS's cycle was six or seven years, that's quite a far cry from three to four years.
Also, I don't understand why new software isn't a viable solution to the 3DS's declining sales. Even if past reveals didn't exactly move a lot of units, this doesn't mean that future software can't or won't - especially if it appeals to a major audience (see: Animal Crossing).
ArchedThunder
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The GBC was 2.5 and the GBA was 3.5. A holiday 2015 release for the 3DS successor would make it 4.5.
Four and a half years would not be premature.
MasterSheen
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July Nintendo Direct: New hardware revealed
If it does happen, I expect it'll just be a redesign of their current handheld/console.
If it does happen, I expect it'll just be a redesign of their current handheld/console.
Perhaps not, but revealing the device to the public the far ahead is not a good idea. It'd destroy all momentum that the 3DS has left.
Agreed. Maybe a forth revision to the 3DS or perhaps a half-step platform in the same vein as the DSi; something a little more robust but not a successor.
Nintendo hopefully wouldn't repeat the same mistake leading into the 3DS announcement. It kind of stepped on the DSi XL's release.
foxuzamaki
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That's like...straight up semantics man
TheGreatMightyPoo
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Maybe they saw people balking at the new Wii U deals in favor of waiting...
Bingo. Game journalists ruining gaming once again.
I'm not trying to pick sides, my point is that there is no 'set' pattern. Four years isn't technically premature but six to seven isn't exactly overdue either. It could be anywhere within that range, although Nintendo's investment into the system gives me the impression (an admittedly speculative one, but that's what everyone's doing right now anyway) that 3DS's cycle could very well be around five years at least.
Either way, I don't believe that a sales number is sufficient to 'prove' that our current handheld is likely to go bye-bye a little after four years.
Doesn't really matter. This one was the worst timed one. Almost evil. And if they show Zelda at E3 the discussion about it will take until 2015.
Just another reason to ignore IGN. They're useless. Particularly for Nintendo news.
Metallix87
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I think this just became more believable =/= I think this must be true
Bingo. Language gives them the out if they are doing it. Statement means nothing in either direction.
foxuzamaki
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More like You think its believable because you see some truth in it. what your saying is almost the definition of semantics.
Metallix87
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I never said I see some truth in it. I never came down one way or another on the "rumor". All I said is that IF it's true, it's not a console, it's a handheld.
Exactly. They have a clear out if they decide to reveal new hardware. I won't say they will, but I will say if they do, it's a handheld, not a Wii U successor.
I was unaware. No bullshitting intended
We had a thread about it. But nvm^^
Here's the full quote again to give context:
So he's saying QOL is a popular buzzword and it's basically catered to by household appliance makers and what he's saying is he didn't know how Nintendo would fit in. He didn't know how they would differentiate themselves. He goes on to say:
So he's stating that he found the answer at the start of this year and that they'd emphasise fun.
As for 3DS, price cuts plus games should be the next action. QOL is 2015 so a successor to 3DS would be 2016 at the earliest. The games seem to be selling pretty well, why throw away a 40M+ userbase?
Guardian Monkey
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I don't understand wtf people are expecting here and why? I mean if Nintendo announced a new console that was coming out this year more powerful that the ps4 would people still care? I mean what will more megahertz add? Will it automatically change Nintendo' s policy around third parties? No. Will it improve Nintendo's archaic match making, online, and profiles? No. Will Mario look that much better in 1080p vs 720p? Not really.
it's easy to enumerate the myriad mistakes nintendo has made with WiiU, a much more difficult task would be charting a (profitable) course for the company to take in the future. I admit that I don't know the answer to that riddle. i suppose nintendo doesn't know either; sounds like MK and SSB are the only things they're going to show at E3. which is fine, give them some time to figure out present market realities and develop a platform that's appropriate for a modern gamer. I personally don't think nintendo will be releasing a WiiU replacement for years and years. think 2017 at the absolute earliest.
Because they are afraid that maybe people will hold off buying the WiiU.