MrPressStart
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I think that Kylo is older and after he killed off the jedi academy her parents (Han and Leia) hid her on Jakku so Kylo would not kill her. That is what I am going with.
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Daisy Ridley Thought Reys Parentage Was Revealed in Star Wars: The Force Awakens
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Mister Megative
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And then she forgot what her dad looked like? Han forgot the daughter he dropped off on Jakku, where she claimed to find the Falcon, and didn't recognize or make the connection? Leia didn't feel it through the Force? Nor Ren?
No.
The Elite
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I think Kylo Ben is 10 years older. He was born around nine months after Jedi.
If really doesn't. Obi Wan is your grandpa doesn't have much weight to it and its convoluted. We'd a lengthy explanation telling us how.
We'd have to establish Obi Wan's love life, his woman, Obi Wan's child who had Rey and that person's marriage partner and then why she was left on Jakku.
It's too much
Bobby Roberts
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Nobody thinks she's Obi-Wan's daughter. They think she might be a grand-daughter or a great-niece or something like that.
(why was this thread bumped? I'm not seeing anything new having been brought to light, unless I missed something that simply wasn't linked)
No you wouldn't. Why would you need a lengthy explanation? People say this as if audiences couldn't roll with a quick minute-long expositional piece (or force flashback)
You don't need to write a wikipedia entry into your script, or ask an actor to perform it.
Skellig Gra
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He's definitely older. The 2 actors are almost 10 years apart in age. I think its also been confirmed Rey has like 6 when abandoned.
Lol listen to yourself man. Do you honestly believe that an explanation anything other than she is related to no one makes more sense? How is it any more logical she is Luke's daughter? And if Leia or Ren don't know about her why is she in hiding?
Daisy Ridley thought the question was answered in TFA. So none of your options make sense. The most logical option is that she is Luke's daughter, why else would his lightsaber trigger a vision of her abandonment on Jakku? Everything in that vision was related to Luke.
Bobby Roberts
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Not everything. And also, you have Ben speaking directly TO Rey in the vision.
I kinda went into some of this back on page 16 (on Boxing Day!)
Mister Megative
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Cool, so Leia, being force-sensitive, didn't sense her niece? Ren didn't sense his cousin? Ok.
Mister Megative
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No, it wasn't. Also, Snoke was in TFA, and was suddenly VERY insistent she be brought to him, rather than killed.
Skellig Gra
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First all of, you are making great leaps to assume "force sensing someone" is a universal skill like Cerebro where you can just find whoever you want, whenever you want.
Second of all, like I said the most logical thing is she is a nobody.
"you're obi wan's grand something or another"
"what? no I'm not, that doesn't make any sense"
"search your feelings..."
"you know what, come to think of it you're absolutely right"
Neverforget
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It was/is obvious to me too, I didn't know people were questioning it?! My only question is who is the mother since Luke is definitely her dad.
Mister Megative
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Third of all, you're taking this way too seriously.
Bobby Roberts
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You put it in a force vision, it's even easier. The one in The Force Awakens spanned decades in less than a minute. Obi-Wan narrating images as they flash by can impart a LOT of information VERY efficiently.
You could probably do it in less than a single paragraph.
Jest Chillin
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Why would the man who created the Knights of Ren and went through the trouble of turning Ben Solo abandon his force-sensitive daughter?
It's been shown in the movies that once a character's force sensitivity manifests, they can sense and be sensed by their family. Leia and Luke sense each other. Vader and Luke sense each other. The only weirdness is Vader and Leia.
Doctoglethorpe
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Here she comes, it's Mara Jade!
I want her back one way or another, may as well do it that way. She can be dead by TFA, idc, plenty of time between trilogies to involve her in books where she belongs (that's a compliment).
Could make up for the entire issue of nobody remembering what she looks like by having Mara wisk her away as a baby and raised her alone.
Snoke is not human so that rules him out straight away.
Mister Megative
Banned
Er, do we know that? He's disfigured, but we don't know he isn't human.
Mister Megative
Banned
The Force works in mysterious ways.
Honestly, I'm just having a bit of fun speculating. I could care less who it is as long as it isn't dumb.
The novelisation notes that he is humanoid but not human.
gutter_trash
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I fear that this convoluted linkage of tieing Rey to an Kenobi lineage without propper story telling will force something that I hate very much "back stories"
I hate backstories
I hate backstories
Jest Chillin
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We do, though it wasn't explicitly said in the movies. I forget the specifics but he's way taller than a human. 10ft~ish.
BreezyLimbo
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Shes a Force clone with implanted memories
Punished Rey finds out shes a body double for Luke
Punished Rey finds out shes a body double for Luke
Skellig Gra
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My interpretation is they can sense people they know very well or had known very well. Kind of like an old friends laugh you'd never forget. But if its someone you barely know or don't know at all you wouldn't be able to sense them/know who they were intuitively.
Either way you slice it,Leia and Kylo didn't say anything to her about being related to her so there are inconsistencies in all the theories except for she is a nobody.
Whoa HOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Mister Megative
Banned
Huh.
George Oscar Bluth II
Banned
He's actually around 7ft.
Jest Chillin
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The theory about being Obi-Wan's granddaughter doesn't have inconsistencies. The biggest counter to it is, "Nobody ever said anything about Obi-Wan having a kid." Which applies to every other theory as well.
I mean, she could very well be the child of unknown characters ("nobodies") or generally anyone resonable... but at the very least her comment on thinking it was obvious means it's most likely a previous character.
I believe Andy Serkis let slip he was 7ft something tall.
George Oscar Bluth II
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She's clearly Rey Antilles.
Jest Chillin
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Andy Serkis, who does his mo-cap stated his height. I think his race is mentioned elsewhere.
You're right. Made him bigger in my poor memory.
Skellig Gra
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Yeah 7ft is the number I remember too.
Sure, it might be obvious to her but that doesn't mean she knew the script of the next 2 movies. It's likely she didn't know anything about the future plot as the movies hadn't even started filming and are always subject to change. So her opinion at that time is only marginally more valid than anyone on here.
Why do I get the feeling that the answer to this question isn't going to be explicitly provided in The Last Jedi?
There are so many things that require explanations...
- Who the hell is Snoke?
- What was he doing while the Empire was around? Did he know Vader or the Emperor?
- How powerful is Snoke with the Force?
- When and how did Snoke "notice" and start to manipulate Ben?
- What exactly happened at Luke's Jedi Academy?
- Who are the Knights of Ren? Where are they?
- Who are Rey's parents?
- Why was she abandoned on Jakku?
These are all questions that need answers. In addition, the film actually has to provide us with an actual plot, significant character development for Snoke/Finn/Poe, and has to set us up for the finale with Episode IX.
If anyone could do it, it's Rian Johnson, but honestly, I have a feeling that we're going to be asking many of these same questions for the next 2 years.
There are people that are quite literally convinced that Obi Wan is her grandfather, and that "all the evidence" points towards that. I mean, that may very well be the case, but it's certainly not obvious, or even implied.
There are so many things that require explanations...
- Who the hell is Snoke?
- What was he doing while the Empire was around? Did he know Vader or the Emperor?
- How powerful is Snoke with the Force?
- When and how did Snoke "notice" and start to manipulate Ben?
- What exactly happened at Luke's Jedi Academy?
- Who are the Knights of Ren? Where are they?
- Who are Rey's parents?
- Why was she abandoned on Jakku?
These are all questions that need answers. In addition, the film actually has to provide us with an actual plot, significant character development for Snoke/Finn/Poe, and has to set us up for the finale with Episode IX.
If anyone could do it, it's Rian Johnson, but honestly, I have a feeling that we're going to be asking many of these same questions for the next 2 years.
There are people that are quite literally convinced that Obi Wan is her grandfather, and that "all the evidence" points towards that. I mean, that may very well be the case, but it's certainly not obvious, or even implied.
gutter_trash
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Snoke is single handidly the worst thing of the new trilogy,
I hate everything about this character, from his pefromance capture Actor, his design, his lazy existance
I hate Snoke, worst Star Wars character. Even Jar-Jar has more inherent value than Snoke
I hate everything about this character, from his pefromance capture Actor, his design, his lazy existance
I hate Snoke, worst Star Wars character. Even Jar-Jar has more inherent value than Snoke
But Snoke is the key to all of this. He's a funnier character than we've had before.
SpinningBirdKick
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If Rey does turn out to be the reincarnation of Anakin as the earlier leaks suggested then it's going to take some convoluted shit to explain to the audience.
At least it will be a good indication of the franchise jumping the shark and then just writing it off forever.
At least it will be a good indication of the franchise jumping the shark and then just writing it off forever.
Hating on Andy Serkis?
gutter_trash
Banned
yes, he is not a nice guy in real life either. He verbally shat on animators who actually worked to make him look better
You're right. Let's just have Empire and Return again.
I want them to get weird with it. Shit is playing it too safe thus far.
Bobby Roberts
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What "leaks" are you referencing here?
So far as I know this was never a "leak," it was just bad fan speculation sourced from nothing solid at all.
But is it possible to learn this power?
gutter_trash
Banned
Is it possible that it was all a lie just to manipulate Anakin?
So the power he used to create Anakin then.
Not from a Jedi
Jag
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If the next film follows the same trajectory of IV-V-VI, then it's the Empire Strikes Back movie which means we should get lots of exposition on what happened in the past and Rey being trained to destroy the First Empire's new, not so secret Super Weapon (Mark II) in the next movie.
greendomo's ghost
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She's Han and Leia's daughter. She survived the attack on the temple, but Luke lied and said she had died in the attack and hid her off planet, believing it was the only place she could be safe. He went into exile shortly after, because he couldn't be around them and lie to their faces. After years of living alone he decides it's better off that she doesn't get found, as the Jedi have brought him nothing but pain and suffering.
That's my theory lol
That's my theory lol
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