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David Jaffe (creator of God of War) annoyed by forum
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MacReady13
Member
How the fuck is "stop and think" NOT useful???
Neon Noire
Banned
Well the original claim I was responding to was that boogie was interested in achieving the same things as your average progressive, resetera poster, whatever, he just had different methods of attaining that goal. Do you think telling people to stop and think over and over regardless of the issue at hand is actually doing anything meaningful except inviting more complacence and inaction?
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CatLady
Selfishly plays on Xbox Purr-ies X
Damn that is hilarious and hard to believe it's not parody. It's like there's a whole bunch of GodfreyElfwick impersonators posting except they're totally serious.
Sadly it looks like the God of War franchise is now dead to the asylum.
Christopher
Member
The left ruin everything.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
joe_zazen
Member
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A growing majority? you are deluded. BTW, centrist is another word for middle class, and good luck getting anywhere politically by attacking the middle class in america.
A growing majority? you are deluded. BTW, centrist is another word for middle class, and good luck getting anywhere politically by attacking the middle class in america.
Bryank75
Banned
Hmm, let me consult the chart...
Yikes!
Oh sweet summer child, let's unpack this...
You do realize that the idea this phrase comes up in almost every controversial topic is a bit problematic? Y'all need to let that sink in...just shut up and listen, friendo. It's called being a decent human being! Wow...just wow.
As a white person, it's almost as if folks think dying on a hill defending bigotry is wholesome and I literally can't even...
Who hurt you?! Maybe, just maybe it is your toxic attitude?
Am I doing this right?
Love the chart, I'll print it out and hang it in my room.
Also Jaffe is streaming the game awards, I'll probably hang out there...
The Mad Draklor
Member
The one change I would make for that picture is to replace the current face with the NPC face.Hmm, let me consult the chart...
Yikes!
Oh sweet summer child, let's unpack this...
You do realize that the idea this phrase comes up in almost every controversial topic is a bit problematic? Y'all need to let that sink in...just shut up and listen, friendo. It's called being a decent human being! Wow...just wow.
As a white person, it's almost as if folks think dying on a hill defending bigotry is wholesome and I literally can't even...
Who hurt you?! Maybe, just maybe it is your toxic attitude?
Am I doing this right?
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mneuro
Member
That isn't how I take boogie at all, personally. He just wants to hear both sides and decide where he stands, and encourages both sides to listen to each other to see if reality is somewhere in the middle of the two extremes.
TLZ
Banned
joe_zazen
Member
The real questions are why the fuck anyone should think seriously about boogie, and what has he done to warrant being hounded and hated? Like aren't there actual villains in the world to attack? Let the fat guy with suicidal tendencies live his life as best he can. Do you guys really want another August Ames?
Gormenghast
Member
Getting to the point.
I'm not really defending Boogie. I think the issue here is even deeper: Boogie is generally just a dude who's ignorant.
But this is the universal position we are ALL in. We are all ignorant about something, and in general the volume of what we don't know is staggering compared to what we know. That's why the wisest thing to do is to stop and think. More often than not Boogie doesn't really know what to think, or what to say. He just doesn't know. He's surprised at certain reactions he gets, he expects something and gets the opposite. He has doubts, he expresses doubts. He doesn't take a position of authority, he doesn't tell you what YOU have to do because he doesn't think he knows. He's just a dude. He isn't particularly wise, he isn't particularly intelligent, he isn't particularly educated. He feels lost just as much we're more or less all lost. Why do you want someone like him to show the way and tell people what to do? Why do you want him to carry a flag and be an example?
This applies to every single "influencer" on the internet: they aren't role models and they shouldn't be. They are all random guys who have no clue why they suddenly became popular. And they say stupid things as we all say stupid things.
Boogie is "wise" exactly because he knows he doesn't know. He doesn't pretend to and simply advises people to be more careful and maybe aware of this.
We are all generally ignorant. It's much wiser to stop and think without immediately taking a stance. Encouraging to cultivate doubts is the very best thing you can do right now.
Neon Noire
Banned
Refer to my previous post. Can you name a few examples of him actually taking a side on any issue? Like, if you think being a centrist means simply taking all the facts into account and leaving partisanship out of it, surely he must have spoken out on at least a few issues? Like something must have registered with him or he found something to be one sided or unjust enough for him to speak out?
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Gosh forbid one debates with diplomacy, and not extremism!
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mekes
Member
Why does he have to?
Is it so important?
Must everybody be labelled?
He honestly seems more compelled with the more enjoyable things in life. As well as Dungeons and Dragons (or was it Magic? Not my thing.) and changing his opportunities through weight loss.
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joe_zazen
Member
Best thing I've read all day, and I read a lot. Kudos, sir/madam.
mneuro
Member
He has no responsibility to take any sides. He isn't a professional political commentator. The real problem is that the far left need you to be on their side, whether you want to publically state your opinion or not. He is free to remain neutral. That's his right as an American.
Neon Noire
Banned
And people have the right to shit on him for it. Personally I think if we apply the stop and think philosophy to boogie the most logical thing for him to do would be to just stop talking about politics or explain to his fans in a reasonable manner that he's not informed or interested enough in the subjects to talk about them.
Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
You mistake the middle for milk toast. I rather see those who curate the useful kernels from either side while discarding the overwhelmingly more abundant chaff.
mneuro
Member
Im also a moderate. Guess what, sometimes Donald Trump makes good decisions even though I don't like him. Everything is not black and white.
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Gormenghast
Member
Because he DOESN'T KNOW SHIT.
The same way Trump is a climate change denier: he doesn't know shit. The difference here is that Trump is instead convinced he DOES KNOW. And he thinks he knows BETTER, to the point he expect people to listen and follow him.
Boogie isn't a scientist or anything else. He's just a dude with a webcam who's trying to live his life through all his problems. Why should we expect he KNOWS anything at all? Why should we expect him so wise to show the way to everyone else?
Why should be expect Boogie to be a great politician or anything else? He just isn't and, thankfully, doesn't try to be.
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
LOL, what?
How does one get informed if they are not actively talking about the subjects and engaging with people in discourse?
Your post just reads like, "just shut up if you are not on the RightSide™ of the political spectrum".
joe_zazen
Member
sure, but, is it the right thing to do? or is it just really satisfying to hate someone you don't know and to try and hurt them?
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Neon Noire
Banned
I don't know reading could be a good start. Talking to people interested in the subject. Watching certain youtube videos even. How does anyone get informed outside of making youtube videos where they showcase their ignorance?
TLZ
Banned
Shitting on him isn't healthy.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
How do you know he doesn't do all of the above? You (we all do) showcase ignorance everyday on internet forums, but one (who is rational) does not assume this is all you do in life.
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joe_zazen
Member
what if you watch the wrong videos? or read the wrong books? or talk to the wrong people. Maybe we should have a place for folks to get, idk, re educated or something.
Clear
CliffyB's Cock Holster
Ree is just generally pissy about anyone more popular than they are, and therefore by "taking them down" they get to feel a little rush of power. This is particularly true in the domains where they most need to feel empowered and justified, the online-space and especially the sphere of gaming.
Its just vicarious gratification to distract themselves from their own failings. They've latched onto an ideology that exalts weakness and fragility as if it were some sort of super-power, and problematize everything so they can pretend they are actually doing something productive with their lives by going after these phantoms.
They get furious when anyone isn't offended by the things they deem offensive. Its that small-minded and pathetic.
Its just vicarious gratification to distract themselves from their own failings. They've latched onto an ideology that exalts weakness and fragility as if it were some sort of super-power, and problematize everything so they can pretend they are actually doing something productive with their lives by going after these phantoms.
They get furious when anyone isn't offended by the things they deem offensive. Its that small-minded and pathetic.
Neon Noire
Banned
He's objectively harmful to public discourse. If you believe the guy is honestly this stupid and ignorant but are fine with him giving his take on every single hot button issue just because it brings in views then you're part of the problem. It's not minecraft, he's got tons of impressionable fans who will be swayed by his content, which you yourselves have admitted is promoting ignorance.
mneuro
Member
This is a fine example of this being your opinion. Your opinion is not fact. Unfortunately, I don't think you are going to understand that your opinion of boogie is different than mine....and that's okay. We can both have different opinions. Also, assuming you know all about someone's life because you've watched a few YouTube videos is strange.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Objectively you say? What was that about ignorance and the like again? Or maybe the word I am looking for is, arrogance?
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InterMusketeer
Member
Boogie is just a fat guy making videos on YouTube. He reacts to dumb shit to entertain people and gives non-opinions because that's his job. He's not harmful to anything, and he doesn't promote anything.
Even if you think he's a fence sitter, who gives a damn?
Even if you think he's a fence sitter, who gives a damn?
Clear
CliffyB's Cock Holster
Yeah, yeah, yeah... "think of the children", "think of the weak-minded", "the drip-drip effect of repeated exposure"...
I've heard all these arguments before from right-wing guardians of public decency back in the 80's.
Man, its crazy how these fallacies persist over time, the paternalistic need to "guide" the unwashed masses into the light never seems to go out of fashion, it just seems to switch political poles from time-to-time!
Berserking Guts
Member
I've never seen an online community that's so full of vitriol as ResetERA. Honestly, a hateful bunch of assholes.
Vtecomega
Banned
Please direct the next Go
Maybe Cory will finally realize what a cesspool of a place that is. He was put on the highest pedestal possible by Era and now he is exiled and left for dead. What an unexpected turn of events.
Edit: Holy shit, they are eating him alive. Absolutely brutal.
Maybe Cory will finally realize what a cesspool of a place that is. He was put on the highest pedestal possible by Era and now he is exiled and left for dead. What an unexpected turn of events.
Edit: Holy shit, they are eating him alive. Absolutely brutal.
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Revolutionary
Member
I love Jaffe. I distinctly remember seeing him for the first time in some PlayStation Underground video, talking about the making of Twisted Metal 2. It was then that I knew the dude had no filter and just told it like it is. I have nothing but respect for the man. It doesn't surprise me to see that he doesn't kowtow to REE's bullshit.
Gormenghast
Member
What? Aren't they all going to be banned for "attacking forum member", "insulting another poster" and "inflammatory accusations" ?
MacReady13
Member
But he doesn’t just mull over things forever. He does have bloody opinions. He just doesn’t come out and say I believe this or that without thinking about it. What is wrong with that? Why does he have to be on 1 side or the other? He has varied opinions. Is that so offensive? Just because he doesn’t match up with your beliefs and opinions don’t mean the guy is wrong.
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TLZ
Banned
I simply don't watch him. I don't watch videos to agitate myself to come on forums to complain endlessly. I simply don't care. I have real life issues to deal with, real priorities. This will never be one of them. None of this is of any importance in the grand scheme. It affects nothing. It's all happening in a tiny bubble that no one cares about.
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Dr. Claus
Vincit qui se vincit
I would say that someone who continues trying to shut down any and all discussion is far more harmful to public discourse than Boogie. Disagree with him and move on. You are putting far more effort than most into what he says. He has as much right to giving his views as you, I, or the dumbasses at Kotaku.
Shmunter
Member
So Corey Barlog is now an undersirsble character for being friends with a moderate? Geoff K also being dragged through the mud. Seems Geoff has requested a perm ban. Anybody know the background to this? Can only speculate him not wanting to be associated with the hate mob that is Era.
mayhemking
Member
Oh fuck off you low t beta cuck. Grow a pair.
Chairman Tickles
Banned
It's good you used 'feel' because for a second there I thought you were going to present a convincing argument to support your calls for ideologically flavored censorship.
This doesn't help.
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Texas Pride
Banned
Censorship as a tool to silence political discourse is what "deplatforming" really is. The law we follow overrules your feelings. I don't have to like your opinion in order to fight for your right to say it. We don't need laws to curb shit that hurts your feelings.
Rien
Jelly Belly
Not just someone but A LOT! In the thread abt boogie they constantly repeat it. Its almost like a children schoolyard to me. A bunch of kids copying each others words.
Abt Cory, Yeah thats pretty awful how they treat him. Some immediatly jumped to conclusion and blowed it waaaaay out of proportion.... like always.
Even it they find their brains back and realize they treat him bad i would be surprised if Cory ever takes the time to join a conversation with them again.
I sure as hell wouldnt
They are ruining the site and the good people in there have to suffer from it. A shame.
mortal
Gold Member
So apparently, according to some on resetera, referring to that sonicfox gamer furry dude from the VGA show as cringe isn't allowed because...reasons?
Yea, I think I'm done trying to post on there. Far left community there is ironically more intolerant than most of the people they accuse to be, it's the most bizarre thing.
A lot of them rather judge you by your immutable characteristics or sexuality than as an individual.
At least I can say I tried to play to play ball.
Yea, I think I'm done trying to post on there. Far left community there is ironically more intolerant than most of the people they accuse to be, it's the most bizarre thing.
A lot of them rather judge you by your immutable characteristics or sexuality than as an individual.
At least I can say I tried to play to play ball.
Shmunter
Member
If I were Evilore, I'd be looking at cracking open the warchest about now and injecting some funds to promote Neogaf.
Reward quality content creators to generate OT's, hire an agency to get Ad's and social media presence out there saying - 'Neogaf is back, and this time as a fair voice for all!'
Industry simply cannot continue to support extremist views as they are on Resetera. As they distance themselves from there, the more they will look for a presence here. Strike while the iron is hot.
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Schrödinger's cat
Banned
It's a gateway to potential wrongthink.