ShinMaruku
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From what I played of the volleball in X2 the gameplay should be very good. They just need to fix ass battle and the race and add 2 more activities and it will be solid.
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Dead or Alive Xtreme 3 might get an "Adjusted" version in west if the demand is high.
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Man fuck North America. Forget those puritan prudes, Tecmo Koei. Think about Yurop. Boobs and dicks, asses and abs, we'll take it all as it is.
By "social justice" you mean "sexually repressed American puritan soccer moms", right?
By "social justice" you mean "sexually repressed American puritan soccer moms", right?
JordanN
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Actually there is a character who is just that.
There are "in-game" examples of how flat she is, but I'm not going to PS Vita my GAF account over it. So I'll leave it to just this [fully clothed] image.
I think Ash might be underestimating how much some people like breasts.
ShyGuy0504
Member
That's for sure.
WickedLaharl
Member
Tecmo doing the lords work. Genuinely hilarious stuff.
Actually there is a character who is just that.
There are "in-game" examples of how flat she is, but I'm not going to PS Vita my GAF account over it. So I'll leave it to just this [fully clothed] image.
welp, i'm officially grossed out
lifa-cobex
Member
No matter what angle I view, Stupid clothing gets in the way.
Need fix
Need fix
Include English in the Japanese version and its all good. In case the Western release is seriously butchered import a Japanese copy with English subs/dubs options.
IIRC DoA Paradise and all DoA5 releases had English/Japanese in the Western release so its not impossible to think a Japanese release would have a similar function.
Does anyone know if the Japanese versions of the DoAX games/DoA5 have an English option?
IIRC DoA Paradise and all DoA5 releases had English/Japanese in the Western release so its not impossible to think a Japanese release would have a similar function.
Does anyone know if the Japanese versions of the DoAX games/DoA5 have an English option?
SolidSnakex
Member
DC was really the only one that received that type of attention. But it was definitely too much. It was just a niche game from a dev that most people had never heard of, yet it seemingly became the face of everything that was wrong with female characters in gaming to some people.
I'm just saying that nothing has really changed as far as what can and can't be released here unedited. I mean DoA has been criticized for the same thing since 98
http://www.ign.com/articles/1998/03/28/dead-or-alive-5
So what are they so nervous about? They constantly release DLC costumes for DoA5 that are skimpier and skimpier. Yet they're somehow nervous about this? Why?
ShinMaruku
Member
This.
Alex_Mexico
Member
Why all the talk about Marie Rose having no chance in appearing in DOAX3 in the west? Isn't she confirmed to be *ahem* 18?
I honestly can't believe this argument is so commonly trotted out tbh. Consider this character for a second...
Now sure.. there may be some adult women out there who are petite, flat chested, part their hair into twin ponytails, dress like a child, sound like a child, have the face of a child, all at once... but you know what?... They're outnumbered by actual children by about 2500:1 (likely being generous here). Without attributing a fictional age to this character, ain't nobody looking at her, and assuming she's intended to be an adult design. Let's not be silly about this. The DOA girls all track heavily on the side of youth in terms of their appearance as it is... that one of them stands out so obviously as to constantly draw this discussion makes the designs intentions pretty clear.
I think part of this hits the nail on the head. If you showed this design to anybody without saying "18" first, there is no way in a million years anyone is going to say a day over 15
I will never play these games but it sure sucks that people who do will either have to import or get a neutered version because of people who also don't play them complaining.
I am all for better representation of women and such in gaming and all that but this is where I have this disconnect. DOAX isn't some everyday occurrence...it's brand of stupid perversion is pretty rare nowadays and the people who enjoy that don't exactly have much to choose from...so let them enjoy their pervy fun. The call for more equality should not come at the expense of an also small group..and yet the games in the center of these firestorms always seem to be some niche or rare shit.
I am all for better representation of women and such in gaming and all that but this is where I have this disconnect. DOAX isn't some everyday occurrence...it's brand of stupid perversion is pretty rare nowadays and the people who enjoy that don't exactly have much to choose from...so let them enjoy their pervy fun. The call for more equality should not come at the expense of an also small group..and yet the games in the center of these firestorms always seem to be some niche or rare shit.
lifa-cobex
Member
Well there you go.
The fact is an age isn't given.
Whatever age you see this character as is your issue.
edit: apparently 18. Argument still stands.
Eolz
Member
Will have to look in the threads we had when it was announced in the first place, but there has been several statements (from around the announcement and before) that if there was a third DOAX, it would have to be different in the west due to differences in the gaming landscape, and they always pushed the "if there is demand" card, when they always know that there is demand (obviously not as much as a regular DOA, but they're not stupid either, and KT localizes titles with a lot less demand than that).
Will basically be like DOA5+: vertical mode and touch to rise skirts or do some stupid minigames in first person.
A mild case of the etna defense. I don't give a crap either way, but people pointing to an arbitrary number for a fictitious character to defend their position is always funny. In the end they're all 1s and 0s, age has no meaning.
Professor Renegade
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#freethenipple
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BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
A 1000 year old demon?
FlyingSaucer
Banned
Understandable given the toxicity of the debate surrounding certain topics in videogaming currently in the US. Yet a little sad, maybe.
Too much clothing for you ?
Too much clothing for you ?
JordanN
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BrianRoyale
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Probably will adjust the age so that they don't have those 15-16 year olds running around in almost nothing.
Eolz
Member
If someone fits all the criteria I listed, then they're almost certainly making a conscious effort to appear child-like. It not as simple as some people are short and don't have large chests... there's pretty basically no non-deliberate way for an adult to be just like Marie Rose irl. There are adults wearing diapers in irl.. but there's no way having a short character frolicking on the beach in a diaper isn't gonna (very deliberately) stir up some shit if added to a videogame. It's super rare occurrence doesn't prevent what the design is very obviously supposed to look like. These artists are professionals, they're not struggling to convey age here.
Have you played a Senran Kagura game? or are you just being facetious?
None of them are underage as it is.
Alex_Mexico
Member
I disagree. The intention was to make Marie Rose look clearly like an underage girl. They plastered "18" into her bio last second to swat down any criticisms they knew they'd get. Not unlike 12 year old flat chested girls in anime doing sexy stuff but with the excuse that "she's actually a 300 year old demon".
Bullshit.
I like the sexiness in DoA but I hate Marie Rose. Give me more Honoka. She at least looks like an adult.
lifa-cobex
Member
That's crap
Just because some people appear young, doesn't mean they are young. I pretty sure that's why many people bring ID with them to buy products or to get served in bars.
Honestly its your issue.
If you wanna view this computer game character as a child, that's nothing to do with me buddy.
I think you misunderstood my comment. The whole point was that the age number means nothing, and the only thing we can go off of is how they look. Ya she's total lolita bait, no made up number is going to get away from that fact. And if that's what you're into, whatever it's not a real person.
Alex_Mexico
Member
Many (most?) girls in DoA were definitely underage in every game prior to DoA5. It wasn't until 5 that they upped the age of every girl to at least 18 but back in the Xtreme 1 & 2 days you at least had a 17 year old Kasumi and a 16 year old Ayane running around wearing dental floss for bikinis.
but these aren't real people, you know that right? They're custom made intentionally to look a certain way by somebody else. It's not an accident of biology. It's not a matter of personal choice. Someone sculpted her to look vaguely underage.
Alex_Mexico
Member
The "1s and 0s" part threw me off. I thought you were saying "she's a digital nothing, we shouldn't care what her age is".
So yeah. We both agree then.
FlyingSaucer
Banned
Well, I believe I may be able to say that I did.
Hence my lack of understanding over that outrage for a bunch of cartoony polygons ?
Yeah, I know they were in some of the older games. I was just saying that they are all canonically 18+ at this point.
lifa-cobex
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TheBaronOfNA
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Actually there is a character who is just that.
There are "in-game" examples of how flat she is, but I'm not going to PS Vita my GAF account over it. So I'll leave it to just this [fully clothed] image.
Of course, she is treated like the butt monkey (with the bouncy Hibary) and the costumes are actually designed with big breasts on mind. Not mention she acts like a spoiled teenager than a child. (Because she is in fact in first year of Highschool, a plot point in the hebijo campaign).
You just admitted a post ago that YOU didn't.
!I wouldn't call it outrage. I would call it disgust that they're marketing products which primary selling point is sexual content and that some people are content and happy that it includes minors.
I'm just calling it out as it is, you don't need to make an excuse or just slap a different number on her bio, just agree that you like underage cartoon gravure and be done with it.
Are you suggesting I have no idea what is included in a Senran Kagura game unless I play it? I have watched videos of it, you know. And it's not like there isn't games like Bon Appetite which are basically shallow spin-offs interspersed with food fetish scenes of the girls lying in giant deserts while only covered by whipped cream, because I know for a fact that is a thing in that brand.
I'm not an idiot, or misrepresenting the game, i'm just talking about a prominent aspect of it that I find really gross.
ah, you think that all the outrage about the "scantly dressed ladies" that the twimblr likes to vent is gonna bring fanservice for everyone? it's only gonna bring fanservice for no one.
jailbird20022
Banned
almost died from this post after making me laugh, sprite doesn't belong in the windpipe...
What a time to be alive...wait.
Man, I was getting ID'd well into my late twenties... I know all about looking younger than most would guess. However people being unsure if I was 18 or 23 isn't like if people were unsure if I were 18 or 13... If an adult gets ID'd because on top of just naturally looking younger, they're also wearing a child-like dress, have their hair tied in little ribbons and all their body language and mannerisms appear to have stalled since primary school, then there's a lot more than their natural body causing people to perceive them as a child. Marie Rose is all of those things in one... it's not coincidental. They could have given a larger more endowed character all of her other traits, but they didn't. Why? Because Helena prancing around all childlike, dressed as such would look ridiculous... the rest of her character doesn't look the part.
You can give any character any age... I could draw a character based on my 5 year old niece right now, and tell you she's 157 years old, and then apparently if you question that, that's simply your issue.
That's actually a really interesting observation.
TheBaronOfNA
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