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Dead Rising Wii official site opens
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Randy Lanzarote
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Haunted One said:
Yeah in the famitsu interview the developer said they won't be able to render 100s of zombies as in the 360 version, so they'll change the way they react to when you enter an area (ie. crowd around you pretty quick)
I'd imagine that each area will have a 'mini-crowd' of zombies lying in wait at key areas as an obstacle, rather than a horde existing in each area.
One thing I loved about the zombies in DR is that you can enter an area and be ignored...then suddenly one zombie will notice you and start making his way towards you, then another will take note of the other zombie, and begin lumbering over. Suddenly its a domino effect as the whole plaza is inching towards you.
Best AI zombie evar!
Moor-Angol
Banned
Seems like Oneechanbara running on RE4 engine with DR characters
About the cutscenes:
Isn't it often said that sometimes, all the bells and whistles of an engine are used in the cutscenes? Judging from the hero's model ingame, I don't think it's too farfetched to assume that the cutscenes are done with the engine of the game, but look better precisely because they're cutscenes.
What do you think?
Isn't it often said that sometimes, all the bells and whistles of an engine are used in the cutscenes? Judging from the hero's model ingame, I don't think it's too farfetched to assume that the cutscenes are done with the engine of the game, but look better precisely because they're cutscenes.
What do you think?
MrNyarlathotep
Banned
Himuro said:
Well, as much as I loved DR on 360, the inventory management was - at best - clunky to move between weapons easily.
If they have made some changes to make it more accessible, I can imagine them going with a 'dual wield' system where you always have a melee weapon equipped which is used with waggle, and a gun which is used by pointer / A button
EDIT:
Other 'more accessible' changes they might realistically make;
- no weapon deterioration, go with a traditional 'pick up to unlock' + ammo system, halo style '2 weapons at any time' to remove inventory, health pickups not being savable
- permanent 'book' power ups, or just make weapon powerups a function of the levelling system anyway
- unarmed 'special moves' becoming various waggle combos - eg somersault kick being a vertical flick, spinning lariat being a sideways flick etc
Zerodoppler
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They should have handed this port to the guys that made Demon Chaos for PS2.
MrNyarlathotep
Banned
Diablos said:
Yes it was.
Healing items, weapons and powerup books all in the same inventory, with a scroll through the entire inventory to get where you wanted to be is clunky.
People bitch about MGS inventory systems as being clunky, but DR was far worse. If they're going for accessibility, grouping inventories into weapons, drinks, food, books would make a lot of sense.
Scrubking said:
The controls are totally overhauled from the 360 version, and use a customized version of RE4 Wii's controls. You move with the Nunchuck's analog stick, and use the Wiimote to attack. The Wiimote serves as a pointer for aiming range weapons (main weapons, selectable between 4 equiped ones with the d-pad), and the A button is used for subweapons (melee weapons). An example is that you press A to attack with a baseball bat, and you swing the Wiimote to do a strong homerun swing. You also pull back the Wiimote to reload a gun.
Ninja Kn1ght
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I am very impressed by how well Capcom captured the look of the 360 version on the Wii. It looks a lot better than I had expected. The gameplay will probably suffer in the conversion since features have been cut but this could be a very respectable port.
No, they are 360 shots. No question about it. The models, shaders, shadows, everything you see in the cutscene pics is EXACTLY the same as the 360 version. Also, notice the difference in image quality between the two. The cutscene pics are very clean while the in game shots are jaggy as hell.Kilrogg said:
Oh, and the pic with the gun shop owner shows object motion blur as well which is clearly absent from the Wii version (but was used heavily both in game and during cutscenes on 360).
The Wii couldn't produce those scenes in realtime.
I don't think the game really looks all that similar at all. The basic art style is the same, but everything has been massively downgraded. Fewer zombies, no lighting, simplified geometry, poor image quality, etc. This style was not intended for the Wii and doesn't translate well. RE4 looks much better due to its origin on Gamecube.
MrNyarlathotep
Banned
dark10x said:
I'm not saying that's exactly a bullshot, but it's not ingame.
Look at screenies where there is a visible HUD, the lighting and blood splatter effects weren't as sharp as in that screenshot...
Diablos said:
Himuro said:
Neither of you ever threw a book at a zombie because you went left instead of right?
Or gave a hostage a mini chainsaw instead of the katana you meant to?
Or switched up to an orange juice and drank it in a boss fight when you mean to switch to shotgun?
Its not a game breaker by any means, but you need to go replay it again if you don't accept that there are improvements that could have been made to the inventory system.
Well, look at RE4. The cutscenes did look better than the in game visuals. This is very common.Kilrogg said:
However, in this case, the difference is just too great and it's clear that the scenes are taken from 360. If they had gone with realtime scenes, however, I think it still could have looked quite a bit better than the in game visuals as they don't need to worry about crowds of zombies in most scenes.
The Wii version may end up with vastly superior loading times, though. With so much less data to worry about and video based cutscenes, there should be less waiting overall. That might be a nice improvement.
Of course, once you can install the game on 360, that should also help.
The actual game looks a bit better due to motion blur, actually, and it does use anti-aliasing. It's actually tough to find proper HUD shots showing off that area, however. I'm not sure why, but most sites are not offering many shots captured by their own equipment.
Looks good enough.
I remember playing DR at a friend's house and going "Holy shit" at the number of zombies you had to slash through...the camera is put at a lower angle so that not as many zombies need to be rendered, but still enough to maintain a frantic pace it seems (compare it to RE4).
Sucks to have the original aspects omitted (i may rent DR in the future when i choose to get a 360) but for now consider the Wii version bought
*edit* There is no way in hell those cutscenes are realtime. No way. Think RE4 PS2.
I remember playing DR at a friend's house and going "Holy shit" at the number of zombies you had to slash through...the camera is put at a lower angle so that not as many zombies need to be rendered, but still enough to maintain a frantic pace it seems (compare it to RE4).
Sucks to have the original aspects omitted (i may rent DR in the future when i choose to get a 360) but for now consider the Wii version bought
*edit* There is no way in hell those cutscenes are realtime. No way. Think RE4 PS2.
Dark you know that 360 shot is a bullshot right? Duckrolls comparison is much fairer but then it's you so lol.
I'm definitely going to check this out but I do hope they manage to keep enough zombies so that the game feels intense. I actually hated having to mow through zombie filled hallways filled to the brim while trying to escort 5 survivors halfway across the mall. It was an exercise in mental stability at times. I don't need 1000 zombies between me and my goal but rather a couple hundred would be enough of a challenge and not downright frustrating. I was really good at the game too as I didn't lose a single survivor in my first play through. I don't compromise.
I'm definitely going to check this out but I do hope they manage to keep enough zombies so that the game feels intense. I actually hated having to mow through zombie filled hallways filled to the brim while trying to escort 5 survivors halfway across the mall. It was an exercise in mental stability at times. I don't need 1000 zombies between me and my goal but rather a couple hundred would be enough of a challenge and not downright frustrating. I was really good at the game too as I didn't lose a single survivor in my first play through. I don't compromise.
I don't recall any specific time that something like that happened, so if it did happen to me, I obviously didn't find it to be that annoying since I can't remember. And I love Dead Rising, so I'd remember.MrNyarlathotep said:
Things that I'd personally like to see fixed:
-Had they kept Otis relevant instead of going with these "submissions" (LOL), they should have changed the way you took calls -- that is, still able to jump and attack.
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Special forces
-Final boss fight should have been made easier for the player's first game.
Giving a survivor the wrong weapon happened a lot and anyone saying that never happened to them I would question the amount of hours they put into the game. It was just one of those things that became unavoidable at time due to the inventory system and the level of urgency throughout.
It's a PR shot and it's photoshopped. I played the game almost every day and Frank does not "shine" like that. For someone who claims to be such an expert in spotting graphical details you sure do miss out on the obvious sometimes.
It's a PR shot and it's photoshopped. I played the game almost every day and Frank does not "shine" like that. For someone who claims to be such an expert in spotting graphical details you sure do miss out on the obvious sometimes.
You know, I'm a huge fan of Dead Rising, and I don't really see any problem with this port at all. I think any rational person will know that graphically it will not look as good, and the zombies will be greatly reduced, there's no running away from that. The fact that they're changing the controls, the camera, and the game progression system indicates that they're simply looking to transplant the experience onto the Wii, not recreate the exact same game on it.
This Dead Rising will almost certainly be more combat based and mission orientated, instead of the open ended sandbox nature of the 360 game. Instead of a time limit, you will have to do several side missions given by Ortis before you can progress to the next story mission. Instead of taking photos and earning PP, you'll have to kill enemies for it. You'll also likely be forced to face every single boss this time, meaning that players will be unable to "miss" stuff on their play through. This indicates to me that they simply want Wii owners to be able to experience the story and concept of Dead Rising. There's nothing wrong with that at all.
I don't buy this even if I have a Wii, since I've already played the game on the original platform, but come on some of you are acting like it's a bad idea and pointless simply because it's missing some of the features that were on the 360. I don't see what the problem is, considering everyone who cares about that experience has already played it.
This Dead Rising will almost certainly be more combat based and mission orientated, instead of the open ended sandbox nature of the 360 game. Instead of a time limit, you will have to do several side missions given by Ortis before you can progress to the next story mission. Instead of taking photos and earning PP, you'll have to kill enemies for it. You'll also likely be forced to face every single boss this time, meaning that players will be unable to "miss" stuff on their play through. This indicates to me that they simply want Wii owners to be able to experience the story and concept of Dead Rising. There's nothing wrong with that at all.
I don't buy this even if I have a Wii, since I've already played the game on the original platform, but come on some of you are acting like it's a bad idea and pointless simply because it's missing some of the features that were on the 360. I don't see what the problem is, considering everyone who cares about that experience has already played it.
MrNyarlathotep said:
The photo stuff - especially the erotic photo category - is actually one of the games major attributes that make the style work so well. They nailed the kooky, odd, almost comedic zombie feel of the Romero films like nothing else I had ever seen before.
Zombies are funny. Take a photo of one falling over for no reason at all, you score extra points for comedy. Shoot an upskirt and get extra points for eroticism. What makes this style of zombie so great is that in most situations they are harmless and amusing. But at the same time you know there is danger there. You know if you get trapped in a cirlce of 30 of them with low health, you could be in a great deal of trouble. It's a contrast of emotions that I've always loved. You can stand around and take photos, but it's almost like you're playing with fire. It's a defining feature of the game and not having it is a very big loss.
However. The game looks pretty damn good. It looks like you'll miss out on the hundred strong zombie sprawls. But it still looks quite reasonable. I'm sure I'll be picking the game up on release day. Even with one of the things I enjoyed most about the 360 version not being in there.
Well said. However it is because I am such a big fan of Dead Rising that I am interested in playing this just to see what new take on the original game they will bring.duckroll said:You know, I'm a huge fan of Dead Rising, and I don't really see any problem with this port at all. I think any rational person will know that graphically it will not look as good, and the zombies will be greatly reduced, there's no running away from that. The fact that they're changing the controls, the camera, and the game progression system indicates that they're simply looking to transplant the experience onto the Wii, not recreate the exact same game on it.
This Dead Rising will almost certainly be more combat based and mission orientated, instead of the open ended sandbox nature of the 360 game. Instead of a time limit, you will have to do several side missions given by Ortis before you can progress to the next story mission. Instead of taking photos and earning PP, you'll have to kill enemies for it. You'll also likely be forced to face every single boss this time, meaning that players will be unable to "miss" stuff on their play through. This indicates to me that they simply want Wii owners to be able to experience the story and concept of Dead Rising. There's nothing wrong with that at all.
I don't buy this even if I have a Wii, since I've already played the game on the original platform, but come on some of you are acting like it's a bad idea and pointless simply because it's missing some of the features that were on the 360. I don't see what the problem is, considering everyone who cares about that experience has already played it.
Haunted
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Great post.duckroll said:You know, I'm a huge fan of Dead Rising, and I don't really see any problem with this port at all. I think any rational person will know that graphically it will not look as good, and the zombies will be greatly reduced, there's no running away from that. The fact that they're changing the controls, the camera, and the game progression system indicates that they're simply looking to transplant the experience onto the Wii, not recreate the exact same game on it.
This Dead Rising will almost certainly be more combat based and mission orientated, instead of the open ended sandbox nature of the 360 game. Instead of a time limit, you will have to do several side missions given by Ortis before you can progress to the next story mission. Instead of taking photos and earning PP, you'll have to kill enemies for it. You'll also likely be forced to face every single boss this time, meaning that players will be unable to "miss" stuff on their play through. This indicates to me that they simply want Wii owners to be able to experience the story and concept of Dead Rising. There's nothing wrong with that at all.
I don't buy this even if I have a Wii, since I've already played the game on the original platform, but come on some of you are acting like it's a bad idea and pointless simply because it's missing some of the features that were on the 360. I don't see what the problem is, considering everyone who cares about that experience has already played it.
Rockstar's Table Tennis and Wall-E say hi.bumpkin said:
Depending on how this all goes, is it too far out to believe that if the eventual DR2 gets released it will probably have a 360 version that follows the gameplay style of the original and a Wii version?
You guys should stop overreacting about possibilities regarding stuff that doesn't exist. This is as bad as "PC gaming is dead" or "Wii Fit is killing traditional gaming". Keep the bitching for when the "nerfed" DR2 gets announced.
You guys should stop overreacting about possibilities regarding stuff that doesn't exist. This is as bad as "PC gaming is dead" or "Wii Fit is killing traditional gaming". Keep the bitching for when the "nerfed" DR2 gets announced.
Thank you.duckroll said:You know, I'm a huge fan of Dead Rising, and I don't really see any problem with this port at all. I think any rational person will know that graphically it will not look as good, and the zombies will be greatly reduced, there's no running away from that. The fact that they're changing the controls, the camera, and the game progression system indicates that they're simply looking to transplant the experience onto the Wii, not recreate the exact same game on it.
This Dead Rising will almost certainly be more combat based and mission orientated, instead of the open ended sandbox nature of the 360 game. Instead of a time limit, you will have to do several side missions given by Ortis before you can progress to the next story mission. Instead of taking photos and earning PP, you'll have to kill enemies for it. You'll also likely be forced to face every single boss this time, meaning that players will be unable to "miss" stuff on their play through. This indicates to me that they simply want Wii owners to be able to experience the story and concept of Dead Rising. There's nothing wrong with that at all.
I don't buy this even if I have a Wii, since I've already played the game on the original platform, but come on some of you are acting like it's a bad idea and pointless simply because it's missing some of the features that were on the 360. I don't see what the problem is, considering everyone who cares about that experience has already played it.
MrNyarlathotep
Banned
Himuro said:
Yeah, I can see how a more streamlined 'dumbed down' DR2 funded by a Wii port of DR is much much worse than not getting a DR2 at all.
wayward archer
Member
Since this seems to be a reworking of the 360 version instead of an attempt at a straight port I am interested and this is a potential buy.
But really I just want Dead Rising 2.
But really I just want Dead Rising 2.