Pinko Marx
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Didn't Kojima himself say the name refers to a sea animal getting stranded on the beach and dying?
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Death Stranding Announced: A Kojima Productions Game
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ChackanKun
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The 5 figures in the sky must have some biblical meaning, like angels or demons or something.
Reedus was sent there to die, or got stuck trying to escape something.
Getting lots of Evangelion and Angels Egg (weirdest anime ever) vibes!
Reedus was sent there to die, or got stuck trying to escape something.
Getting lots of Evangelion and Angels Egg (weirdest anime ever) vibes!
TissueBox
Member
Ahh nice close up of the little equation things!!
Concerning the relevance of their presence there and particularly the first (Schwarzschild) one it's very enlightening to see the possibility of allegorical despair at work here...
The emphasis on 'place' and 'being' and the nature of one's relationship to both correlates very directly with an individualistic struggle for self-liberation, where a black hole represents [the result of] Adversity or Inevitability A and the collapsed matter represents self-destruction in wake of such things, where the feasibility for escape is minimized to such a reductive probability that lightspeed is the slowest you could go just for a chance at breaking out of it. Mmm-mm, it works as a darkly introspective and packed metaphor (for Kojima, if nothing else) and microcosmically, it would be sweet to see how he shatters it into pieces and sprinkles it over the game's potentially trippy narrative...
On a macrocosmic scale, I have NO idea what he wants to do with the plot but if alternate worlds and dimensions and environments that teeter between real and imagined (such that Reedus's character ends up navigating through self-induced nightmare constructs) lead up to some eerie sci-fi adventure drama then my interest's piqued the ever more!!
I just hope -- *cough* -- that it's not too "open-world"...buuuut who knows, if one person can at least try something for the hell of keeping things fresh and actually deliver, it's Kojima.
Concerning the relevance of their presence there and particularly the first (Schwarzschild) one it's very enlightening to see the possibility of allegorical despair at work here...
The emphasis on 'place' and 'being' and the nature of one's relationship to both correlates very directly with an individualistic struggle for self-liberation, where a black hole represents [the result of] Adversity or Inevitability A and the collapsed matter represents self-destruction in wake of such things, where the feasibility for escape is minimized to such a reductive probability that lightspeed is the slowest you could go just for a chance at breaking out of it. Mmm-mm, it works as a darkly introspective and packed metaphor (for Kojima, if nothing else) and microcosmically, it would be sweet to see how he shatters it into pieces and sprinkles it over the game's potentially trippy narrative...
On a macrocosmic scale, I have NO idea what he wants to do with the plot but if alternate worlds and dimensions and environments that teeter between real and imagined (such that Reedus's character ends up navigating through self-induced nightmare constructs) lead up to some eerie sci-fi adventure drama then my interest's piqued the ever more!!
I just hope -- *cough* -- that it's not too "open-world"...buuuut who knows, if one person can at least try something for the hell of keeping things fresh and actually deliver, it's Kojima.
Bronetta
Ask me about the moon landing or the temperature at which jet fuel burns. You may be surprised at what you learn.
But hasn't Kojima been saying he wanted off MGS for over a decade?
Would have made more sense if they "seals" around his neck would be 7 in total. not six
Palculator
Unconfirmed Member
Yeah, he has. He hasn't been saying "Fire me and turn it into pachinko", though.
Sometimes more than one
Lol... You guys are killing me here.
Regarding "Stranding", while the beached sea creatures and lone protagonist offer connotations for the title, I like to think there's some other meaning hidden in there.
Think of the word strand and what images it evokes...such as a fine string or length of fibre... We say strands of DNA... There was an umbilical cord linking the baby with Reedus...
I dread to imagine the implications of "Death Stranding" when considering this sort of context for the word, but I have a feeling Kojima will do something crazy with it.
darkwing-buck
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SolidSnakex
Member
Kojima seems to be having a good time at this E3
swearing-circle
Member
Forgot about that commo.
Unknown Soldier
Member
5 figures in the sky + himself = 6
That's like ink running. He had an ink-like substance on his hands. That symbolism means something, but who knows what.
Wishmaster92
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An interesting analysis of the trailer
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PgR90b0mi8g
Still waiting for yongyea's detailed analysis and maybe more of pythonselkan's crazy conspiracies.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PgR90b0mi8g
Still waiting for yongyea's detailed analysis and maybe more of pythonselkan's crazy conspiracies.
VlaudTheImpaler
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Ah cool! Knowing Kojima it could be either, or both, or something entirely different.
Crazy Diamond
Member
There will have been so much detective work done on this game by the time it's out, I can only imagine the kind of pleasure Kojima will take in that! I think I'll try to steer clear of any analysis of this game, personally, even if what we saw was simply a teaser. It's not the accuracy of the analysis I'm worried about so much as it is the ideas getting stuck in my head, potentially stripping away whatever element of surprise Death Stranding has to offer, and on the surface, that seems to be quite a bit.
Yes! I started thinking of it like "B" in my post above. Definitely something to do with the cords coming from the dead creatures, not to mention the cord initially linking Reedus and the child.
Putting the emphasis on "Death" makes it sound like a composite-verb, like a "Death Strand" is a concept, and "Death Stranding" is carrying it out as an action.
... Makes it even more creepy.
Obliterator
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So after reading more on stuff that's coming out it looks like this involves stuff like Black Holes possibly?
Kojima going hard sci-fi isn't he?
Kojima going hard sci-fi isn't he?
Like an umbilical cord that induces death, rather than nurturing the life of an organism?
That is creepy.
THE CRUISE NEVER ENDS
This wouldn't surprise me. He's mentioned many times that 2001: A Space Odyssey is his favourite film, or at least one of them.
Obliterator
Member
Man I hope he does. I would love to see what Kojima does in a full on hard sci-fi game. It could be crazy as hell if he doesn't have any kind of constraints like he's had with the Metal Gear Universe
SolidSnakex
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He's dabbled in sci-fi before with games like Snatcher and Policenauts. Snacher is heavily inspired by Blade Runner and Policenauts is essentially a sci-fi version of Lethal Weapon.
Palculator
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Let's not forget Zone of the Enders! Never forget Zone of the Enders.
spiderman123
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I think the dude fell from heaven and he's hugging the baby bc it represents humanity.
I pulling shit out of my ass here as you can clearly see.
I pulling shit out of my ass here as you can clearly see.
Obliterator
Member
But we aren't talking full on HARD sci-fi like Black Holes. I think we may be getting into true sci-fi and not just things like "robots". Like actual space / science concepts and if so it could be insane
abstract alien
Member
I can't get over the song that played during this trailer. Jesus that was great.
ThisIsMyName
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Not only that, but the title itself has 8 ink "strands" running down.
Hold on, its only the letters E.A.T. and S.T.I.N.G. that have the ink strands.
HOLY CRAP,...this game is about eating the musical performing artist Sting!!!
What did he mean by this?
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Aliens, Big Oil, Pregmancy, Crabs!
No more women so whoa men go.
No more women so whoa men go.
Palculator
Unconfirmed Member
If we want to go nuts, here's something the floating guys in the sky reminded me of (besides Evangelion):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Knight_satellite
Official explanation is that it's a blanket lost during an EVA mission and an EVA suit is exactly what Ludens is wearing in that recent render. Obviously, the floating dudes aren't the Black Knight satellite but they made me think of it and it's an interesting topic.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Knight_satellite
Official explanation is that it's a blanket lost during an EVA mission and an EVA suit is exactly what Ludens is wearing in that recent render. Obviously, the floating dudes aren't the Black Knight satellite but they made me think of it and it's an interesting topic.
I 100%'d it just a few weeks ago, it's a great game. Do play it.
WaterAstro
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Wow I didn't notice until I looked closely, but Mark Cerny is Technical Producer.
TissueBox
Member
Yep, and talk about out of nowhere. Now we all get the Knack sequel we deserve...
In all seriousness though, that is pretty sweet..! I just saw that earlier today too and blinked twice to make sure. Dream team-up!
WaterAstro
Member
Knack replaces Metal Gear.
Sora the Cat
Member
Dude ignore that, the negative voices are always louder. It's one of the best games I've played, gameplay just never gets boring, you'll see. It deserves every good note it got.
Also, I think it came out in third place at gaf goty vote or something right?
Popular GAF opinion is that it's at worst a fantastic game that very easily could have been among the best ever made. The negativity largely comes from some clunky narrative decisions, publisher fuckery and some awkward gawking at a dumb character.
Play it fool.
Read this on Tumblr, sounds pretty interesting:
the picture above is from a video of galveston beach after a large oil spill in the gulf of mexico. notice the gray discolored sand and how the oil fills up the hole, similar to how the oil filled up the hand prints on the sand in the trailer.
a live stranding is a form of mass stranding where multiple whales or dolphins are stranded on the beach. but are still alive. so a death stranding must mean when multiple dead whales or dolphins get stranded on a beach. this is important to my theory because after the bp oil spill, many whales were killed and washed up on beaches.
this next theory is really pushing it but i think it’s feasible. what if there was an oil spill that took place in the world of death stranding which wiped out the entire ocean population? or maybe even the entire world was ended because of this? maybe the aliens kojima was talking about caused it?
Shadax the wizard
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Does anyone know the name of this camo ingame?
Shall we look in the Oxford Dictionary? http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/literally
Oxford Dictionary said:literally
Pronunciation: /ˈlɪt(ərəli/
ADVERB
1In a literal manner or sense; exactly:
the driver took it literally when asked to go straight over the roundabout
1.1 informal Used for emphasis while not being literally true:
I have received literally thousands of letters
Don't be a fun killer.
twinturbo2
butthurt Heat fan
Now, I don't know if this was mentioned, but Norman Reedus named his son Mingus.
Either he's a fan of Charles Mingus, or he won a bet with Kim Kardashian and Gwyneth Paltrow over who can come up with the most over-the-top ridiculous baby name. I pray it's the former.
Either he's a fan of Charles Mingus, or he won a bet with Kim Kardashian and Gwyneth Paltrow over who can come up with the most over-the-top ridiculous baby name. I pray it's the former.
Because he is (or was) probably one of them...