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Defense Grid: The Awakening - Official Minithread of Tower Defense Bliss
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CultureClearance
Banned
pilonv1 said:
It all depends. It's about efficiency for money spent. It's also about WHEN you spend it. When you have a bank of supplies left, the amount of supplies you gain per second increases. Save up and use it the very last second for maximum moneys.
I'm pretty disappointed with this game.
The main reason being that I can't for the life of me tell two different towers apart.
If you play with the farthest camera, they all look exactly the same. I can only either try to remember were I placed all of them, or get the camera closer (which sucks because the you are missing a huge part of the battlefield).
I'd love that they had different colours or whatever.
The main reason being that I can't for the life of me tell two different towers apart.
If you play with the farthest camera, they all look exactly the same. I can only either try to remember were I placed all of them, or get the camera closer (which sucks because the you are missing a huge part of the battlefield).
I'd love that they had different colours or whatever.
I agree that the towers are all a bit too similar in color, even though I can tell them apart.
More liberal use of colors for the different towers, and greater variety in tower designs would have been nice. I also wish upgraded towers looked different beyond just a simple color change.
More liberal use of colors for the different towers, and greater variety in tower designs would have been nice. I also wish upgraded towers looked different beyond just a simple color change.
gregor7777
Banned
xbhaskarx said:
Upgraded towers do look different. Cannons have triple barrels, for example.
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
I just played the demo, and this game is seriously fun.
BUT
The framerate is horrific. On the first 2 levels, fully zoomed in you get a locked 60fps, but the other levels it jumps all over the place, and I'd rather not use the fully zoomed in camera, anyway.
No buy; framerate is way too annoying.
BUT
The framerate is horrific. On the first 2 levels, fully zoomed in you get a locked 60fps, but the other levels it jumps all over the place, and I'd rather not use the fully zoomed in camera, anyway.
No buy; framerate is way too annoying.
Stoney Mason
Banned
Bought just to support the game and since it was relatively cheap. It will be awhile before I can get around to playing it though.
LocoMrPollock
Banned
This game is boring me a bit.
I absolutely hate predetermined build points. Really takes a lot of the strategy out of the equation and limits what you can do.
Really all you gotta do is manage your money and upgrade the towers that are placed in the best position, which isn't hard to do considering the limited options. Oh and adjust for the different wave types.
People saying this is the best TD game ever are crazy. It's not even the best on 360. Crystal Defenders wipes the floor with this in everything but presentation.
I absolutely hate predetermined build points. Really takes a lot of the strategy out of the equation and limits what you can do.
Really all you gotta do is manage your money and upgrade the towers that are placed in the best position, which isn't hard to do considering the limited options. Oh and adjust for the different wave types.
People saying this is the best TD game ever are crazy. It's not even the best on 360. Crystal Defenders wipes the floor with this in everything but presentation.
Stoney Mason
Banned
LocoMrPollock said:
Did you play the demo? You seem to complaining about what the game is purposely set up to do.
LocoMrPollock said:
I disagree especially about Crystal Defenders are better than this, but I thought Crystal Defenders was alright but nothing compared to Defense Grid.
Defense Grid is a great TD game but takes some getting use to, I haven't played it on 360 yet but I really like it on the PC.
LocoMrPollock
Banned
Stoney Mason said:
Playing the full game.
Just seems very TD-Lite. Don't get what all the fuss is about, besides the somewhat interesting story/setup and the graphics which are good.
Anyway, I'm not saying it's a bad game. But it's hardly the best of the genre. Unless it suddenly gets about 10x better before it ends.
LocoMrPollock
Banned
lothars said:
Crystal Defenders has a ton more depth and strategic options than Defense Grid. So in that sense, it's better, at least in my opinion.
pilonv1 said:
If I don't die of boredom before I get there, then we'll see.
pilonv1 said:
Yeah, I'd rate Pixel Junk above this, also.
LocoMrPollock said:
I didn't like the predetermined spawn point either... until getting further in. When you're actually allowed to use towers to force enemies to walk in your own pathways, it feels a lot more dynamic. I think it's a smart design ethic for a 3D game like this.
The more I get into the game, the more I feel like I can find my own way to play, rather than having to do things in what seems to be a pre-set style.
The Credits are cool. (Or "These people are AWESOME!") Concept art.. and rasberries. I like the idea.
Was annoyed by the lack of Health bars... until I saw they had them, and ability to check enemy status, though options and button presses. By the time I figured this out, though, I had adjusted...
I still wonder about the logistics of tower defense in general, though! WHY are all these creatures running through LIVE FIRE!?!?! WITHOUT fighting back?!? I'd love to see a tower defense game that toys with the idea, and actually has enemies desperately trying to take out your towers... which end up being invincible XD Just because it'd make more sense.
I wish I could understand that japanese XBLIG Tower defense thing with the game developers VS Viruses + Awesome Cover/Title Screen Art... that game had such personality in it's towers and enemies! Indivual animations all about. And COLOR!
Anyway, this is quite a quality game for $10...
InfectedZero
Member
SAB CA said:
Savage Moon my friend. Its only on PS3, but its a great TD game. You drop your turrets in from orbit and it has a real Starship Troopers feel. But one thing it has that other TD games don't have is attacking enemies. If you have a PS3 try it out, I highly recommend it.
Oh and just wondering, I was doing Grinder or whatever its called where they just keep on coming until level 99, I could not get past level 50 or so, it just got so ridiculously hard, and the frame rate goes to crap when you have a million turrets with a million baddies running around. I tried for an hour to stomp it but could not. =(
I only played through about half the game on PC and didn't really pay attention, but I did like how you could shape the enemy's path with towers, particularly on
. Now I'm further along and it just blew my mind that on
you can
That is brilliant. :lol
I'm not sure that's what you're supposed to do, or what other people are doing, most people seem to have used 20-40 towers, but I created a maze of 80 cannons/meteors.
Also there are 11,000 entries on the leaderboard now.
Focal Point
Turnabout
create a really long path and a straightforward path that's closed off at the end with a cheap $100 tower, then when the enemy is going through the long path you can sell the tower for $75 to make the enemy units change course, only to buy it again when they're almost through.
I'm not sure that's what you're supposed to do, or what other people are doing, most people seem to have used 20-40 towers, but I created a maze of 80 cannons/meteors.
Also there are 11,000 entries on the leaderboard now.
I'm enjoying this beautiful game.
I'm trying to beat each level getting the Gold Medal. It is taking time (I'm not a TD expert). Anyway there's one thing I don't get.
In order to get the Gold you need to reach a fixed score (between 31000 and 33000 in the first stages). In order to reach a big score you need of course not to loose any nucle but moreover you need to save money.
Now my question: is there a difference in the final score between:
- a player that beats the level using (let's say) 5 towers and don't sell any of them
- a player that beats the same level using 5 towers but that before ending the stage sell all the towers
???
I don't get if it gives you the same money in the final money list if you sell or not the stuff.
Moreover, what is the key to gain more money (and points)?
[] Using less towers as possible
[] Using different towers
[] Leveling all the towers
[] Something else
Thanks for your help!
I'm trying to beat each level getting the Gold Medal. It is taking time (I'm not a TD expert). Anyway there's one thing I don't get.
In order to get the Gold you need to reach a fixed score (between 31000 and 33000 in the first stages). In order to reach a big score you need of course not to loose any nucle but moreover you need to save money.
Now my question: is there a difference in the final score between:
- a player that beats the level using (let's say) 5 towers and don't sell any of them
- a player that beats the same level using 5 towers but that before ending the stage sell all the towers
???
I don't get if it gives you the same money in the final money list if you sell or not the stuff.
Moreover, what is the key to gain more money (and points)?
[] Using less towers as possible
[] Using different towers
[] Leveling all the towers
[] Something else
Thanks for your help!
Snowball said:
There is basically no difference (*), since the score for a tower is the same as the amount of resources (and thus score) you get for selling it.
Snowball said:
Spend as little resources as possible without losing cores. Remember that a tower is only worth 75% of what you spent on it. Also, having resources "in the bank" gives you interest, and thus more resources.
(*) Only difference would be if you managed to sell the towers so that you gained any extra interest before the level ended.
Brakara said:
Thanks for your hints.
I just completed mission #dunno (it is the last mission you get in the demo, the one with a lot of spot to place towers). I did the same mission a lot of times in order to get the highest score I could. After a few attempts I'm now #26 in the worldwide ranking but I cannot level up anymore
Anyway the replayability of this (kind) of game is really awesome. Just if you like to play the same level a lot of times (at least to gain the gold).
When I first saw the "Checkpoint stuff" I tought it was a way to cheat but now I'm really loving this opportunity the game gives you to master your match without frustrate you.
A lot of levels. A lot of way to play. A lot of modes.
The best 10 bucks I've spent since Plants Vs Zombies (that is not as cheap as this one).
If you are not a TD Master, this is your game. I dunno what an expert could think about this Defense Grid.
Snowball said:
It also allows you to experiment and see what works best. It's a godsend if you're trying to beat your friends scores.
If you've played a lot of TD, the story mode doesn't get very hard until the last level. The Grinder and other modes can get quite challenging, but I think the scoreboard is the biggest draw for tower defense experts.
Bugger, got to the 99th round of a level and then lost all my cores.
And to change my stance on the framerate - it's fine for most single player levels, but for Grinder play it's fuuuucked. So many things on screen and it goes to 5-10 frames a second. Fast forwarding is a slideshow.
Not that I can blame the game as it's got a billion enemies on screen
And to change my stance on the framerate - it's fine for most single player levels, but for Grinder play it's fuuuucked. So many things on screen and it goes to 5-10 frames a second. Fast forwarding is a slideshow.
Not that I can blame the game as it's got a billion enemies on screen
CultureClearance
Banned
Jonsoncao said:
Of course it will. Your resources you get per second increases the more resources you have. You should sell the towers immediately after they're not being used and you should keep the last enemy alive as long as you can so to keep that resource interest going as long as possible. Also, the more cores that you don't have in "green state" the more that interest rate decreases.
Haven't gotten #1 in anything yet but i got #2. Haven't played any of the obscure challenges yet, just regular campaign and i'm only half way through that.
benjipwns
Banned
The fact that this thread keeps getting bumped due to the 360 release makes me sad.
Then I temper it with the fact that more people are playing the maybe best game of the last year.
Then I temper it with the fact that more people are playing the maybe best game of the last year.
And then I get over how I used the 360 controller for PC because mouse controls sucked and I ask everyone for a big group hug. Hopefully this will get a sequel now!
gregor7777
Banned
I'll have to try this Crystal Defenders that some of you think so highly of. I've largely ignorned it because of the theme. I played PixelJunk Monsters and absolutely hated the mechanic with the little guy running around the map collecting shit. Hated, hated, hated.
Defense Grid ranks up there with the best TD games I've played, and I think it's definitely the best retail TD game I've played.
Defense Grid ranks up there with the best TD games I've played, and I think it's definitely the best retail TD game I've played.
Snowball said:
The more cores that sit in the little core bay, the more money you accrue in interest.
Got my 99 kills, man the framerate makes you feel a little sick in that mode :lol
Getting golds in the "hard mode" versions now for the achievement. I've been so close to get that stupid "last core" achievement. If your good at the game it makes you unlearn everything. I'm trying to get it on the second level at the moment by having all the enemies steal my shit and try to save one, but it's hard.