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Bitmap Frogs

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The amount of personal attacks over a game nobody here has worked on is pathetic.
I know, but the weaklings populating the OT can't tollerate people badmouthing the game so here we are.. This thread would be dead if they had ignored it, but they're just giving visibility to my original post.
 

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Since you're being slow, I'll give you homework: you can check earlier posts so you can learn why Destiny 2 vanilla and it's DLC has no economic value and thus it costs nothing to Bungie to give it out for free.
But .... it has no economic cost to access. So .... how does that make it a scam?

This insanity belongs on r/ChoosingBeggars/
 

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You might need to calm down, I never called Warframe a bad game. My entire argument was that if D2 went entirely free to play you'd probably see the sort of MTX Warframe has. Your pedantry about the link I used doesn't detract from the argument that you can pay for better stuff earlier in Warframe without having to grind for it. I get it, you love Warframe, the fact is I never said word 1 that I didn't like the game, so calm your tits.
Calm down? Have you counted the amount of times you've posted on this thread? Maybe you should take your own advice.

And that is outright lying. You've attempted to drag Warframe through the mud just because I compared it positively to Destiny.
 
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Calm down? Have you counted the amount of times you've posted on this thread? Maybe you should take your own advice.
Frequency of posts doesn't really have anything to do with whether or not a person is calm. Calm down was referring to the personal attacks, obviously. I'm a frequent poster, tbh, you can see for yourself, it doesn't matter if it's a heated thread or a normal one. I've got shit to say, you, however, have perfected the art of posting a lot while saying nothing at all.
 

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Frequency of posts doesn't really have anything to do with whether or not a person is calm. Calm down was referring to the personal attacks, obviously. I'm a frequent poster, tbh, you can see for yourself, it doesn't matter if it's a heated thread or a normal one. I've got shit to say, you, however, have perfected the art of posting a lot while saying nothing at all.
We've known you've got shit to say since the first time you posted in this thread, pal.
 

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We are now down to posting gifs! The moment when you care too much about something but you can't even say anything coherent anymore. The mark of a true Destiny fan!

Something was clearly thoroughly detailed...

You lack reading comprehension.

The Iron shiek is more coherent.
 

Bitmap Frogs

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Something was clearly thoroughly detailed...

You lack reading comprehension.

The Iron shiek is more coherent.
Yes, that you're still the guy who ran away from the thread when you were shown wrong about eververse and didn't come back until you had a pile-on mate.
 

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Sorry but what is definition of f2p? Its free 2 play, if you dont wanna pay for other content, you can still play no? And why put there fortnite or other games, its like put a barbie game and shout that this game is scam, because its not like gta5.
 
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You might need to calm down, I never called Warframe a bad game. My entire argument was that if D2 went entirely free to play you'd probably see the sort of MTX Warframe has. Your pedantry about the link I used doesn't detract from the argument that you can pay for better stuff earlier in Warframe without having to grind for it. I get it, you love Warframe, the fact is I never said word 1 that I didn't like the game, so calm your tits.
"Pedantry"

You posted bullshit, made claims using it as some kind of proof, then turned to random Google results and Steam reviews when you got called out. Even now, you're making claims around the game without the knowledge to back it up. That's my problem with you: not your argument, but the fact that you made it from a place of ignorance and even now, you're still acting like you made some kind of point.

I don't care what you think about Warframe: I care that you couldn't carry a knowledgeable conversation around the subject for more than a minute without needing Google, yet you act like you know shit. There are several points you could have made to critize Warframe's F2P model, points which would have supported your argument and rang true with people that play the game because they've been raised with DE before. You haven't mentioned a single solitary one. You're a fucking tourist to the subject matter.
 

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You really need to get your priorities straight, mate.

So much whining over free stuff...
Either you're ethornaz alt account and made a bobo or you quoted the wrong post, the one you're looking for is somewhere else in the thread.
 
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Either you're ethornaz alt account and made a bobo or you quoted the wrong post, the one you're looking for is somewhere else in the thread.
I got the right person, just quoted the last post because it was on this page.
 
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"Pedantry"

You posted bullshit, made claims using it as some kind of proof, then turned to random Google results and Steam reviews when you got called out. Even now, you're making claims around the game without the knowledge to back it up. That's my problem with you: not your argument, but the fact that you made it from a place of ignorance and even now, you're still acting like you made some kind of point.

I don't care what you think about Warframe: I care that you couldn't carry a knowledgeable conversation around the subject for more than a minute without needing Google, yet you act like you know shit. There are several points you could have made to critize Warframe's F2P model, points which would have supported your argument and rang true with people that play the game because they've been raised with DE before. You haven't mentioned a single solitary one. You're a fucking tourist to the subject matter.
Yeah, okay, I get it Warframe gatekeeper, my knowledge isn't enough. The thread is actually about Destiny, though and Warframe just happens to come up in comparison often. Maybe deal with it? Maybe just get bent? I dunno.
 

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I got the right person, just quoted the last post because it was on this page.
The f2p is a very cynical design. They made free what has no value to Bungie because they wouldn't be able to sell for real cash anyways, they allow f2p players access to many pvp queues to pad them to avoid things like the catastrophical population drop from some time ago and meanwhile the things people would pay money for, they still cost money just like before. And of course the mtx shop gets bigger and bigger because that's where the money is.

If you think that's something to celebrate, feel free but to me that's bullshit and I call it like I see it: it's shrewd and calculated.
 
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Yeah, okay, I get it Warframe gatekeeper, my knowledge isn't enough. The thread is actually about Destiny, though and Warframe just happens to come up in comparison often. Maybe deal with it? Maybe just get bent? I dunno.
You're welcome. Good talk.

Back on topic we go.
 

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Destiny 2 isn't a good game anyways.I got sucked into the hype and got it when it came on PC and the post game content was garbage.But hey! run through the story again with 2 other characters to level those up!

I hope Destiny 3 flops
 
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I'm still waiting for bitmap to explain how I'm being forced to buy a battle pass
 

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I'm still waiting for bitmap to explain how I'm being forced to buy a battle pass
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Twelve hours and you couldn't even get right the number of warframe slots you are given when you start the game.

Guess that explains a looot of things about you.

And again, you can get everything in game except the cosmetics. Just like Destiny... oh no, because Destiny makes you pay for quests and battle pass and so on.

You don't care tho, you're just here to troll to defend Destiny. You're such a fanboy you can't even tolerate the fact people are talking about things they don't like about your toy. "


You are essentially running a grammar nazi troll in 2019.

Ya busted.

You can practice your reading comprehension on that post of mine I just copy pasted in the meanwhile.
 
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Fuck tha reading comprehension. I break its back. Fuck it’s ass. Then make it humble
 
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Twelve hours and you couldn't even get right the number of warframe slots you are given when you start the game.

Guess that explains a looot of things about you.

And again, you can get everything in game except the cosmetics. Just like Destiny... oh no, because Destiny makes you pay for quests and battle pass and so on.

You don't care tho, you're just here to troll to defend Destiny. You're such a fanboy you can't even tolerate the fact people are talking about things they don't like about your toy. "


You are essentially running a grammar nazi troll in 2019.

Ya busted.

You can practice your reading comprehension on that post of mine I just copy pasted in the meanwhile.
Nothing I said is criticizing your grammar. I am actually interested to find out how I would be forced to buy a battle pass as a free player. I've only just started playing and that may get me to avoid the game if true.
 

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Nothing I said is criticizing your grammar. I am actually interested to find out how I would be forced to buy a battle pass as a free player. I've only just started playing and that may get me to avoid the game if true.
You aren’t forced to buy “battle pass.”

Destiny 2 doesn’t have a battle pass. It has a season pass for actual endgame content and ONE of its many loot tables is laid out linearly like battle pass progression to simplify things for casuals. And the armor and loot from it is available to both free and paying players.

It’s not extra content. Ifs the same shit destiny always gave players...
 
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You aren’t forced to buy “battle pass.”

Destiny 2 doesn’t have a battle pass. It has a season pass for actual endgame content and ONE of its many loot tables is laid out linearly like battle pass progression to simplify things for casuals. And the armor and loot from it is available to both free and paying players.

It’s not extra content. Ifs the same shit destiny always gave players...
Thanks for clarifying. That sounds completely reasonable.
 
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So, it works like this:

As a f2p player you have access to the base game campaign (which they already gave out for free through psn plus and the battlenet launcher) and the curse of osiris and warmind campaigns. These two pieces of content are they only actual bits of new content they gave out for free.

You don't get forsaken and its seasonal content, you don't get shadowkeep.

And of course you have to pay for the battle pass.

So essentially playing destiny costs the same as it costed before: 60 bucks a year if you want to play the latest content, and if you didnt buy their stuff the year before, you have to buy last year's content drop (which is now possibly obsolete) on top of this years. Unbelievable.

This is unbelievable scummy from Bungie. They haven't really gone f2p at all. Current standards for f2p games means you get EVERYTHING for free except the battle pass and the mtx.

And I can't even buy forsaken, apparently because I got the psn plus freebie they gave out. Which means I would have to track down a physical copy, possibly. Which means getting out of the f2p cage and unlock everything is going to cost me around 90 bucks, I guess. If i were so inclined. 90 bucks! Free to play my ass.
Lol they never said any of the things you assumed in fact they were very open and honest as to what it would and wouldn't include. Raging for no damn reason.
 

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Nothing I said is criticizing your grammar. I am actually interested to find out how I would be forced to buy a battle pass as a free player. I've only just started playing and that may get me to avoid the game if true.
Yes you are, your entire argument is predicated on the fact there's an ellipsis in my post as I omitted "(if you want the equivalent content) they make you pay...". Since I was arguing a direct comparison between both I'd assume I wouldn't need to specify (if you want the equivalent content). It was a mistake on my part to not take into consideration that there's people like you.

Now, is there any missing comma somewhere you want to spin a spurious argument from or are we done.
 
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Hey Bitmap Frogs Bitmap Frogs , I might be sticking my hand in the fire a bit, I want to apologise for dog-piling on and making offensive remarks earlier in the thread.

As repeatedly pointed out, there were some inaccuracies in your original post; and every new person entering the thread is going to read it; and either leave this thread misinformed; or dog-pile into telling you what you already know.

I’m a big fan of both Destiny and Warframe; and I forgive a lot of pay-to-win aspects of Warframe because Conclave is a dead game mode; and most of the game is co-operative anyway.

I’m glad that Destiny’s direction is now to allow free-to-players to compete with paid in Gambit and Iron Banner, since they’ve removed the character level; and there is no restriction on acquiring the maximum gear score. Right before this expansion, making Gambit available to non-Forsaken owners was a scam! There was no chance of actually competing with players twenty character levels higher than you; despite it’s advertisement.

We could split hairs on what counts as free-to-play until the cows come home. But you are right, there are playable quests and associated equipment not available to free-to-players; compared to Warframe, where through arguable definitions of within-a-human-lifespan, everything is.

... its like put a barbie game and shout that this game is scam, because its not like gta5.
Wise post, I’ll see this Guardian on the moon.
 
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What's fucked up is if you download the free version but have all DLC up until Shadowkeep they prompt me to pay $59.99 anyway. I still have the disc but I'd have to delete all this shit & redownload it just to buy the newest DLC I don't have without spending 59.99. What a load of fucking shit Bungie. Who the fuck thought that was a great idea? Seriously I'd like to meet them. That inconvenience cost them a sale in me and I felt dirty wanting it in the first place. Motherfuckers.
 
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What's fucked up is if you download the free version but have all DLC up until Shadowkeep they prompt me to pay $59.99 anyway. I still have the disc but I'd have to delete all this shit & redownload it just to buy the newest DLC I don't have without spending 59.99. What a load of fucking shit Bungie. Who the fuck thought that was a great idea? Seriously I'd like to meet them. That inconvenience cost them a sale in me and I felt dirty wanting it in the first place. Motherfuckers.
If you are on PS4, it is known for not being able to treat disc license installs as equivalent to digital, and forcing re-downloads. That quirk is on Sony.
 
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Texas Pride

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If you are on PS4, it is known for not being able to treat disc license installs as equivalent to digital, and forcing re-downloads. That quirk is on Sony.

Yeah well that's not my fault as a consumer. It's another barrier to me spending money on their product.
 

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Resetera is that way my friend

This hyperbole nonsense doesnt belong here
have you enter any thread about TLoU2 recently? i'd say we have a lot of hyperbole going on here too, just sayin' ...
 
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The f2p is a very cynical design. They made free what has no value to Bungie because they wouldn't be able to sell for real cash anyways, they allow f2p players access to many pvp queues to pad them to avoid things like the catastrophical population drop from some time ago and meanwhile the things people would pay money for, they still cost money just like before. And of course the mtx shop gets bigger and bigger because that's where the money is.

If you think that's something to celebrate, feel free but to me that's bullshit and I call it like I see it: it's shrewd and calculated.
Facts don't matter apparently. Destiny population drops myths from gaf shitposters still a thing.

Game averages a million per day over the last several 'seasons'
 

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Facts don't matter apparently. Destiny population drops myths from gaf shitposters still a thing.

Game averages a million per day over the last several 'seasons'
In other news, game devs trying to make money making 'shrewd and calculated moves.
 

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i said this would happen

bungie has to suck up some of the blame here, their model has been wack AF until now

really enjoying the game right now
 
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Hey Bitmap Frogs Bitmap Frogs , I might be sticking my hand in the fire a bit, I want to apologise for dog-piling on and making offensive remarks earlier in the thread.
That's alright I guess but as a former destiny 1 player who bailed out the franchise when I saw destiny 2, I am used to the destiny fanbase engaging in pile-ons whenever the game is critised.

Happened in reeera and happens here. You guys have turned an i-dont-like-thing post into a 5 page flamewar.
 
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