Community Forum
Member
lowrider007 said:
master race indeed lawl
-
Hey Guest. Check out your NeoGAF Wrapped 2025 results here!
Deus Ex: Human Revolution now has ads on load screens. Billboard ads incoming also.
- Thread starter Archie
- Start date
master race indeed lawl
jediyoshi said:
who said that? all im saying this is just another dev pushing more customers away. I dont want to pay 60 bucks on a game to get my face full of ads when i can spend that on a different one and avoid it. How do you take my post as saying they are justified? jesus. All im saying is that this leads to bad judgement over devs -> more piracy.
Uno Venova
Banned
Unreal how ads are seeping into gaming these days. I didn't read the whole thread but I'm sure there is a "why are you crying" group in here.
NullPointer
Member
This better not be real. If so Eidos/Squeenix can go fuck themselves.
Grinchy
Banned
I'm kind of against this but at the same time I am ok with them doing this on loading screens. I just don't see it as a huge problem. If you had to listen to some in-game character talk about the benefits of Allstate Insurance in the middle of a quest, then that's where things get fucked up.
Rebel Leader
THE POWER OF BUTTERSCOTCH BOTTOMS
SalsaShark said:
BF3 is loseing sales... I bet they are gonna have ads like in BC
sssstententen
Member
I'm really bothered by all the negative feedback this is gathering.
I've said it a million times before and I'll say it again now, but if games want to keep advancing we're also going to have to see a higher profit margin to justify the ridiculous costs of development.
We're also talking about a game that has been HEAVILY discounted since week 1. Its a great game, the ads in my opinion are non-intrusive as its not like you're picking up a in-game book/reading an email and its saying "BUY the STAR WARS Blu-ray collection now!", its in the loading screens which I barely watch.
I think the gaming community is very whiny when it comes to self-entitlement issues like this.
I also can't believe the complaints these days when we continue to see anybody but the AAA studios get shut down or lay-off half their staff.
This makes me sad.
I've said it a million times before and I'll say it again now, but if games want to keep advancing we're also going to have to see a higher profit margin to justify the ridiculous costs of development.
We're also talking about a game that has been HEAVILY discounted since week 1. Its a great game, the ads in my opinion are non-intrusive as its not like you're picking up a in-game book/reading an email and its saying "BUY the STAR WARS Blu-ray collection now!", its in the loading screens which I barely watch.
I think the gaming community is very whiny when it comes to self-entitlement issues like this.
I also can't believe the complaints these days when we continue to see anybody but the AAA studios get shut down or lay-off half their staff.
This makes me sad.
jim-jam bongs
Member
Calcaneus said:
TV is primarily an ad-supported medium. With films it really depends on how heavy handed they are about it. Honestly, it can also be done in a way which actually increases the authenticity of the world, Mad Men being an obvious example
Joe Molotov
Member
markot said:
That's because Blade Runner was set in the future and the future is NOW! Megacorps run everything, pop-up ads in our vidya games, puttin' chips in our brains, lord what's next???
Rebel Leader
THE POWER OF BUTTERSCOTCH BOTTOMS
hamchan said:
money for vs13?
Wallach said:
Exactly. If their budgets are so bloated and out of control that they have to resort to patching advertisements in their games, then maybe it's time to start reevaluating things. We shouldn't have to "pitch-in" when we're already paying $50-60 for new games.
sersteven said:
We should be thankful for everything! bend over!
Id take the game for 60 bucks instead of 50 over this. Games arent doing this, games are getting good revenue and this game didnt bombed. Sure, development costs get more expensive and they'll have to sort that out the moment AAA games stop making money, we are not in those times.
Calcaneus said:
[sarcasm]Oh ok...because ads in TV shows are there already, lets just go ahead and add them to games. While we are at it lets go ahead and add them to Music CD's as well so I can hear an ad between each song.[/sarcasm]
Ads suck no matter what but they are commonplace in TV Shows since you are basically only paying to have access to channels, much like you are paying to access the internet but there are still ads all over the place.
You are paying for games directly, and I really dont want ads in my games to become a trend.
So just because ads are already in TV shows does not mean it's a valid argument that it's ok to have them in games...especially singleplayer only games that rely on an immersive atmosphere.
MrPing1000
Member
No ads in UK version.
Huzzah.
Huzzah.
MaddenNFL64
Member
Calcaneus said:
Never had a problem with product placement, because they don't spend time selling me on the product. If they do, i do get fucking pissed. But if Jensen is just drinking a fucking coke while he reads an ebook, I would be amused. Then i'd go drink a Pepsi.
I would care if when the movie hits a slow section, like driving a car, I see fucking Coke ads pop up while I watch. If you can't see the difference, well I don't care if you don't see it.
NullPointer
Member
Ninja patching ads in after I've bought the game is bullshit, pure and simple. If a game wants to have ads, go for it, but give me the choice.sersteven said:
Either offer the full priced version without ads or state upfront if I'm going to see this kind of stuff in-game. This is not OK. I wouldn't have bought this game had I known it would patch in ads.
How's Steam's refund policy?
I don't know, I'm way more "offended" when something goes out of its way to advertise in the actual movie/show/game.jim-jam bongs said:
I'll take a small ad in a loading screen over the recent RAGE product placement going on lately in Breaking Bad any day. But on both cases, it doesn't really bother me more than just getting a "really?" out of me. Maybe I'm just a sheep consumer who has no self-respect, I don't know.
Confidence Man
Member
Doesn't bother me, but I can see it becoming worse if this is deemed acceptable. If the point is it's just a loading screen so who cares, why not have the whole loading screen be an ad? Then you'd never be quite sure if the game was actually loading the whole time or deliberately stalling to show more ads.
sssstententen
Member
SalsaShark said:
Aren't we though? I know this is a bad case for my argument because Deus Ex has sold about 3 million copies as of now, but I continue to notice how pitifully non-shooter/non-established franchise games sell.
And again, I still defend it by saying that this is a game that sold nearly half off a few weeks into its release window. I personally got it for $45 from steam for pre-ordering.
I also stated that as long as non-intrusive I'm okay with it. I'd be all aboard this bandwagon if it were shoving it in my face, but its not. The day it does, I'll be right behind you.
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
Giolon said:
I don't think they will happen very soon.. and how do you get off calling me naive? That is just some crazy ass titles you are throwing around son..
Load times or streaming ads will get killed in the mass media.. even if you pay to the a 98% score the reviewer will still talk about it..
Rebel Leader
THE POWER OF BUTTERSCOTCH BOTTOMS
Let the Square/edios hate
*mortal kombat*
BEGIN!
*mortal kombat*
BEGIN!
lowrider007
Licorice-flavoured booze?
I thought the game already had advertisements in it? or is the lack of subtly on the Star Wars one the issue? which is understandable.
Also anyone confirm yet whether this is on the console version as well?
Also anyone confirm yet whether this is on the console version as well?
sersteven said:
I'll give you this:
If a non-first person shooter with a great, innovative idea but no notion over if there's an audience for it, but it such a cool and new idea that they want to try it out anyway and have to find a way through development cost: sure, i'll buy it. As long as they tell me about this beforehand.
A triple AAA first person shooter made by a big studio adding ads post-release after i already bought the thing? yeah no.
I haven't played this game, but is there more to the loading screens than just a splash image? If there isn't, than I don't think its the same as having an ad play while someone is driving during the movie. And I would be more pissed if Jensen was drinking a Coke and they blatantly focus the camera so that you can see the logo. I'd take a star wars thumbnail in a loading screen over that easily.MaddenNFL64 said:
Guys, I'm not trying to defend this stuff, I just don't get where the hyperbolic comments are coming from. Really, you're gonna reconsider getting the sequel over this? To be fair, only one or two people went that far.
chickdigger802
Banned
This all makes perfect sense.
Just think what new 'features' will be in the ultra final bluray Star Wars set in 20 years.
I might start rioting too.
Just think what new 'features' will be in the ultra final bluray Star Wars set in 20 years.
I might start rioting too.
It's not a goddamn entitlement issue to figure that if you're paying 50 or 60 or even 40 dollars for a game, you shouldn't have ads patched in after the fact.sersteven said:
It would be different if it was something you accessed for free. Then the developers could use the ads to help offset some of the costs.
But you know what else offsets the costs? THE GODDAMN MONEY I PAID FOR THE GAME.
This is fucking bullshit. Every time something like this happens, a publisher makes a money grab and it makes the game experience just a little bit worse, and if a gamer has the TEMERITY to complain about having ads forced into a game they've ALREADY paid for, or having items that used to be standard in games now being stuck behind an extra pay wall, they're being "whiny" and having "entitlement issues."
How about fuck off with that shit? How's that for an entitlement issue?
And hell yes I'm entitled to some things. If I drop 45 bucks on a piece of entertainment, you're damn right I'm entitled to not ALSO have intrusive ads popping up in my face. Hell that's why I don't buy wrestling pay per views any more. Last time I bought one they also threw commercials and unrelated movie trailers into the broadcast. I'm not PAYING to have ads shoved in front of my face. Go to hell with that.
And that "if games are going to advance we have to put up with this" nonsense is complete and utter bullshit. There are plenty of devs and publishers making kickass games that don't shove ads in your face every ten minutes, and are way more complex than Deus Ex. But I guess what you really mean by "games advancing" is "graphics and CGI advancing", so my games look more like movies.
Well guess what? If ads popped up during scene changes in a movie or TV show Blu-Ray I bought, I'd be ticked off. And so would you, if you're honest with yourself. I'm sick of all this boo-hoo bullshit about "oh we developers and publishers are so poor we HAVE to do this stuff or else we can't survive, whine whine bitch bitch." And it always comes back to more money coming out of the player's pocket, or shoving an ad in the player's face, or making the player's experience shorter or dumber or worse.
FUCK. THAT. SHIT.
sssstententen
Member
SalsaShark said:
I can respect your opinion I just think its really interesting just how much outrage this stuff generates.
In my opinion, as long as it doesn't actually affect the content of the game, I'm fine with it. The fact that its post-release doesn't bother me either, especially when you look at how short the collective attention span of the console market is.
Especially with such a huge million dollar selling release schedule is going to hit just in a few months, Deus Ex will be a whisper on the wind literally in a few weeks.
My final point is that as long as it doesn't touch the actual content, its fine by me.
MaddenNFL64
Member
Calcaneus said:
I would be pissed if they fucking zoomed in on the coke can. You can be subtle with this shit, make the world feel real, since Coke, McDonalds & shit are real. Just don't fucking sell it to me. I'm capable enough to understand when i'm being advertised to, and when it's appropriate to me. Don't make me pay up the ass, then put in some splashed ads later. Tell me up front my loading screen will have this shit, and I can make up my mind.
NullPointer
Member
Not having the choice is what upsets me here. If it was in day one I could've known about it and avoided this game like the plague.Calcaneus said:
That they already have my money and choose now to "slip this in" shows a serious lack of respect for their players. Its not going to change the world, but they've definitely lost me as a future customer.
weekendCONFIRMED
Banned
This thread is embarrassing. You all have to be shitting me.
You're acting like entitled little fucking children.
Again, IT'S A LOADING SCREEN -- housing bullshit images and/or text that people don't give a fuck about or read FOR YEARS. Now they put a tiny ad on it and YOU FLIP YOUR SHIT? JESUS CHRIST. I'm done checking this thread.
You're acting like entitled little fucking children.
Again, IT'S A LOADING SCREEN -- housing bullshit images and/or text that people don't give a fuck about or read FOR YEARS. Now they put a tiny ad on it and YOU FLIP YOUR SHIT? JESUS CHRIST. I'm done checking this thread.