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DF - Final Fantasy 7 Remake PC Tech Review: A Disappointing, Barebones Port

winjer

Gold Member


What could have been a tremendous PC port of a superb PlayStation 5 game is anything but. While the basics are there and we do have feature parity with the console game, the lack of options, lack of cutting-edge PC features, no ultrawide support, no DLSS and worst of all, off-putting stuttering performance makes this a genuine disappointment.

Very few graphical options. No support for ultra wide, nor DLSS, FSR, etc.
PC high settings uses similar settings to the PS5. Except NPC draw distance.
NPC draw distance on PS5 is equal to level 7 on PC. PC has 11 settings, from 0 to 10
PC uses Dynamic resolution scaling, unless you use a mod to fix this.
PC runs by default using DirectX12. Bu it has a lot of hitching, even on a RTX 3090.
Can be run on DX11 with a command line argument. This fixes most of the hitching on the game.
 
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ACESHIGH

Banned
Good, hopefully the game is patched down the line to address these issues. I don't expect any PC AAA game to have flawless performance at release sadly. The Steam version should be the superior one since it will include all patches and maybe extra improvements a year or so from now.
 

SF Kosmo

Al Jazeera Special Reporter
So the DX11 "fix" was something I wasn't expecting... Why wouldn't they simply make this the default?

It just seems like a really careless effort. Square is really all over the place when it comes to their PC stuff.
 

Great Hair

Banned
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.. cuz they stink!
 
i can buy the PS4 version for £23 right now or just go for PC. well, i ain't paying £70...if i get on PC it will only be when it's <£30
 
I really don't like these off-brand reviews from Digital foundry, typically, Alex or John, or even Richard would reach out to SE to discuss the issues, report bugs/findings, and try to get a sense of the developer's plan going forward to address these concerns. So little effort was put into this review. Not to mention, much more in-depth comparisons to the console releases.
 
I really don't like these off-brand reviews from Digital foundry, typically, Alex or John, or even Richard would reach out to SE to discuss the issues, report bugs/findings, and try to get a sense of the developer's plan going forward to address these concerns. So little effort was put into this review. Not to mention, much more in-depth comparisons to the console releases.
I mean the video explained it all, there is little to no difference between this and the console release which is one of the glaring issues with this release. PC versions are supposed to go far beyond the console versions, this is a half-assed port from a over burdened publisher that cant get un-compromised content out the door.
 

winjer

Gold Member
It's just a lazy quick cash grab, from Square Enix.
High price, low effort, low quality port of a 2 year old game.
 

Lethal01

Member
anyone got a summary so i don't need to give them views?

It's the best way to play

Switch it to DX11 mode and it runs great otherwise there is stuttering. The game is essentially the PS5 version with the option for higher resolution and framerate. Other than texture and shadow resolution there really aren't any graphical options.

Video says it perfectly, it's barebones. But it's a great way to experience the game. That's what matter most to me.

I'd say it's 10x better than deathloop or halo infinite, more graphical options mean nothing when the game runs badly no mattter what. If this is a "profound dissapointment" then those games need to be taken off the store.
 
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DonkeyPunchJr

World’s Biggest Weeb
The game kinda sucks anyway. All it did was make me like FF7 less. So much constant grunting it sounds like a gay porno
 
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I mean the video explained it all, there is little to no difference between this and the console release which is one of the glaring issues with this release. PC versions are supposed to go far beyond the console versions, this is a half-assed port from a over burdened publisher that cant get un-compromised content out the door.

I am not in disagreement with the poor state of the port. I am, however, in disagreement with the amateur hour DF review, what I am talking about is the side-by-side comparisons, resolution grabs, pixel counts, etc, etc, etc.
 

ethomaz

Banned
That just confirm what I said before in this board.
Even Square Enix using PC tools a game developed to PS5 is not easy to be ported to PC.
It is not just flip the switch like some believe.

Of course the dev should put more time before finish the port... it is basically an unfinished port.

BTW the PS5 version hold the PC port version like all consoles do since ever to PC (the most underutilized platform).
 
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assurdum

Banned
That just confirm what I said before in this board.
Even Square Enix using PC tools a game developed to PS5 is not easy to be ported to PC.
It is not just flip the switch like some believe.


Of course the dev should put more time before finish the port... it is basically an unfinished port.
Come on now. It's Square not an indie studio.
 
I am not in disagreement with the poor state of the port. I am, however, in disagreement with the amateur hour DF review, what I am talking about is the side-by-side comparisons, resolution grabs, pixel counts, etc, etc, etc.
I mean whats the point of a side by side comparison of a platform thats superior in every category ? That comparison naturally wouldnt provide anything interesting to compare.

PC is superior so no reason to keep retreading that. This port however is only interesting because it sucks.
 

GametimeUK

Member
Consoles are just so appealing now if you can manage to get one. You don't need to bother optimising the game, the performance has usually been great for next gen games and upgrades from last gen etc. Consoles cost a fraction of the price. I've told my friend to hold off buying a PC at the moment until the PC has a massive advantage over these console ports again. It doesn't help when ports like this get released either. This is really disappointing to see as I would have loved this game with DLSS, but there's no reason to play this game on my PC instead of my PS5.

The graphic options in FF15 were great.
 
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Lethal01

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Get the PS5 version!
That just confirm what I said before in this board.
Even Square Enix using PC tools a game developed to PS5 is not easy to be ported to PC.
It is not just flip the switch like some believe.

Of course the dev should put more time before finish the port... it is basically an unfinished port.

The video says as long as you switch to DX11 mode it runs great so this is still the best way to experience the game, so it seems it is fairly easy despite having one easily noticeable issue.
Don't get it twisted though, I'd love if this game had the option for raytracing and further enhancements even further beyond the PS5 version.
 

ethomaz

Banned
Come on now. It's Square not an indie studio.
It is game development... there is no magic in terms of difficult to port between platform... you need time and money... something Square didn't put into.

Even the multi platform Unreal Engine that has a lot of specific platform code path optimizations needs time and mode to reach a good state in every single platform you want to delivery the game.
 
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LordCBH

Member
How the fuck did square give us this when some of their recent pc ports have been pretty darn good. Even 15 on PC is significantly better than this.
 
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The video says as long as you switch to DX11 mode it runs great so this is still the best way to experience the game, so it seems it is fairly easy despite having one easily noticeable issue.
Don't get it twisted though, I'd love if this game had the option for raytracing and further enhancements even further beyond the PS5 version.
I'm glad you're happy with it, but there's no possible way I could consider this port "the best way to experience the game"... when literally when the game immediately switches to real-time graphics, you're met with horrible stuttering issues.

Meanwhile, PS4 and PS5 are smooth sailing not missing a beat.

I don't care how high AVG FPS are or how high a person bumps the resolution.. the consistency of the experience is key.
 

ethomaz

Banned
How the fuck did square give us this when some of their recent pc ports have been pretty darn good. Even 15 on PC is significantly better than this.
Square Enix just did what every developer (including big ones) are doing... ship unfinished products to fix via patch later.
Studios/Publishers are not putting $$$ and time to fix things before launch.

It is a sad state of the industy.
 

ethomaz

Banned
The video says as long as you switch to DX11 mode it runs great so this is still the best way to experience the game, so it seems it is fairly easy despite having one easily noticeable issue.
Don't get it twisted though, I'd love if this game had the option for raytracing and further enhancements even further beyond the PS5 version.
No even close lol
It is a inferior version to the PS5 version.
 
I mean whats the point of a side by side comparison of a platform thats superior in every category ? That comparison naturally wouldnt provide anything interesting to compare.

PC is superior so no reason to keep retreading that. This port however is only interesting because it sucks.

No one doubts the superiority of PC. The point of side-by-side comparison is just that, to compare. Regardless of "no differences". You have a personal preference for how you like your reviews, as do I. And it seems the team at DF delegated this review to one of the team members that seems to lack the overall experience/inquisitive nature of the more experienced team members. Also, PC is undoubtedly going to run this game, at a higher fixed resolution. Where are the 30/60/90/120FPS metrics in this review? He tested it on an RTX 3080M chipset lol. Sure, there are frame pacing issues, there is stuttering. But, that still shouldn't prevent you from testing all the modes/resolutions. It's a lazy review. It's a poor port. We know this.
 
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winjer

Gold Member
No matter how superior a PC can be.
If a company s lazy and incompetent, it's always going to suck.
Maybe modders can fix some of the screw up that Square did with this port.

No wonder they released only on Epic Store, where there are no user reviews, manning it's easier to fool consumers.
 
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adamsapple

Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
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ethomaz

Banned
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Lethal01

Member
I'm glad you're happy with it, but there's no possible way I could consider this port "the best way to experience the game"... when literally when the game immediately switches to real-time graphics, you're met with horrible stuttering issues.

I don't care how high AVG FPS are or how high a person bumps the resolution.. the consistency of the experience is key.
No even close lol
It is a inferior version to the PS5 version.

This version doesn't do this if you take a minute to switch to DX11 mode. I can get behind being mad that it isn't the default but you can play without stuttering, and still has higher res and framerate than on PS5. What is the drawback to make it worse?
 
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ethomaz

Banned
Okay but this version doesn't do this if you take a minute to switch to DX11 mode. I can get behind being mad that it isn't the default but you can play without stuttering at hgiher res and framerate than on PS5. What is the drawback to make it worse?
It doesn't.
Using DX11 it become a inferior to PS5.

BTW even the DX12 codepath is limited by PS5 settings.
 
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Lethal01

Member
It doesn't.
Using DX11 it become a inferior to PS5. BTW even the DX12 codepath is limited by PS5 settings.

In what way? what is the drawback of using DX11? The only side effect I see mentioned is that it turns off vsync but you can turn it back on.

So again, this is the PS5 version, but with the option for higher resolution and framerate. what about that isn't the best way to play?
 
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DenchDeckard

Moderated wildly
If your pc version is worse than the ps5 you should be ashamed of yourself.

What a poor show.

Imagine how bad the series x version would be. Rough stuff.
 

adamsapple

Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
So who got burned more? PC gamers or EPIC for buying the exclusivity?

Neither. People who want to will still buy this on PC cause they can use either fan mods, or just wait a few days/weeks for patches to fix the issues.

If they *SHOULD* buy this or not is a different matter.
 
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