Each time I go to my friends' and we watch/play something on their tv, I die a little inside. When it's not plain factory settings, they have sharpness set at 100 and brightness/contrast are oversaturated. I'm not even an image nazi, but on huge 50" displays, the results are incredibly bad. And they seem to genuinely love it that way.
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DF/JF: Battlefield 4 PS4 vs XB1 videos/screens (900p PS4, 720p XB1)
- Thread starter shinobi602
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Ovek
7Member7
They only showed the ps4 version so...... maybe the rumours a xbl being broken are true.
You keep saying this... But you do realize that the sound chip is mainly used for Kinect audio processing, right? It doesn't provide any meaningful advantage as far as we know...
Sidewinder
Member
You must be a noble descendant of the PC Master race, I welcome thee in our humble shack. May you not be offended by the stench and the lack of garnishment and opulence, please don't take our lives, you'd only sully your beautiful clothes with our unworthy blood...
So you are laughing at me for calling you out for getting upset at people that dare to use some logic in this comparison......... right.
I somehow doubt you where even close to "rational" and "clam" when you started talking about "salt" and talking about people "cry"ing.
Backfoggen
Banned
As I said it's kinda worthless with shitty video compression and gif on top, but here you go :/
Pop-in is a bummer in both versions. Makes brightly lit parts in multiplayer look kinda ass.
isn't this just the beginning for both consoles? or just PS4?
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
Console version are not created to abide by PC config settings. Of course they are not going to switch everything off if it's just some of the things that are bogging down performance. I don't know why you'd think otherwise.
High and low contrast, this is something you can do on your TV with every game you own.
Most of Digital Foundry footage has this difference, the IGN stuff does not.
As for which is better, its really up to the user to decide and set their TV or monitor accordingly. High contrast means that every color is on "steroids" ie. red is more red, yellow is more yellow, black is more black. If you look at the Xbox One DF shots everything is in high contrast
iJudged
Banned
OMG HOW CAN IT LOOK BETTER NO OCCLUSION NONAA No NOTHONG 5O9% LESS PIXELS SHADERS ARE CLUSTERFORMED ANDBLOOK AT TJATBLIGHTNING TAJMAHAL HAMANAHAMANAHAMANA.
Just saying... If you like the xbone looks, Ur an idiot here... Expect it
It is pretty much worse than anything I was expecting. The difference is bigger than almost anything on previous generation. Its ridiculous.
Acheteedo
Member
Just watched the videos:
Aliasing is bad on both
But aliasing is significantly better on PS4
Graphics look great on both
No real stand out winner in terms of graphics
Framerate is good on both
PS4 sticks to it better
So basically, if you have the choice of both, the choice is clear - PS4, but if you don't then it's not a problem at all.
I think DICE should be proud of what they've done for 2 launch titles.
Aliasing is bad on both
But aliasing is significantly better on PS4
Graphics look great on both
No real stand out winner in terms of graphics
Framerate is good on both
PS4 sticks to it better
So basically, if you have the choice of both, the choice is clear - PS4, but if you don't then it's not a problem at all.
I think DICE should be proud of what they've done for 2 launch titles.
I think this thread is more fun than the entire BF4 SP campaign.
Also, this thread looks way better on PC
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sono
Gold Member
I am concerned that despite lower res the xbone one look clearer/sharper in some cases. Really need gamersyde type raw direct capture.
What happens with PS4 in going from a 900p render to output to a 1080p screen. Isnt it better to do black bars ala ryse or something like that compared to some 900->1080 translation
welcome to the forums ?
What happens with PS4 in going from a 900p render to output to a 1080p screen. Isnt it better to do black bars ala ryse or something like that compared to some 900->1080 translation
welcome to the forums ?
am I on gamefaqs.
As is their right.
startyourengine
Member
SneakyStephan
Banned
ctrl f durante on this page or the last page (or ctrl f my name) it's been explained
(upscaling and post process AA cause it)
i know man..it's crazy but its good for when a person is bored and need something to read hehe
BlazingDarkness
Member
So the blurry PS4 stuff I'm seeing doesn't exist does it? Ok.
Pretty sure many people here in the thread have already explained why the PS4 version is blurry (upscale etc) so why should I ignore that?
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
Select 1440p from the youtube player. That's the original footage he uploaded, unprocessed by youtube, and Blim wouldn't be able to provide any better (unless Jack has something better)
Breakfast at Noon
Member
lol, nope i play on all formats, just prefer console, and these do look dodgy (i'm going only by these imgs and gifs which all look terribly compressed and low quality)
call_kotaku
Member
No anti-aliasing and a lot of sharpening on the xbone version.
For two reasons:
- The XB1 version is post-sharpened, or upscaled using a badly configured scaling algorithm, resulting in those terrible edge-haloing and ringing artifacts everywhere.
- The PS4 version uses a more aggressive post-AA solution.
iJudged
Banned
Was wondering the same.
GrizzleBoy
Banned
If its taking this much effort to highlight differences, I don't think ill be caring much.
And I'm an "enthusiast".
Average Joe current gen gamer coming from last gen CoD and BF3 that look like the turds they do will not be whining about baggies when they fireup this game.
And I'm an "enthusiast".
Average Joe current gen gamer coming from last gen CoD and BF3 that look like the turds they do will not be whining about baggies when they fireup this game.
cyberheater
PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 Xbone PS4 PS4
A 720p launch game on a next gen console. I really can't quite believe it.
So learning about the tech behind it destroyed your enjoyment? If you initially thought more saturation and crushed blacks look better, you shouldn't trick yourself into not liking it on principle. It happened also for me, when I started learning playing guitar - As soon as I noticed that Green Day only used cheap-ass powerchords I started hating on them.
As stated multiple times in this thread, you can achieve the same look on PS4 by changing TV settings. Its just an oversaturated and oversharpened image.
shinra-bansho
Member
I believe, the Digital Foundry images and video seem to have been captured with limited RGB colour depth, which increases the contrast. Some sort of sharpening seems to also have been applied during the capture process(?)
It's similar to why when you go to a store all the TVs are set to like maximum contrast and sharpness.
That doesn't mean that there won't be blur in the PS4 version, it's 900p being upscaled with FXAA as noted above.
ionicbluebird
Member
So what I get from the thread is this.. The difference in price between the PS4 and Xbox one isn't due to Kinect but rather a fancy 100 dollar scaler.
Seriously though.. I don't feel as bad for people getting Xbone versions of multiplats, if the scalar and the more pop in colours can bring games to the level of PS4 versions subjectively. Then again this may be just one game.. we'll see how the scaler fairs against PS4 versions of other games, but this is interesting to say the least... didn't see any of this coming.
Seriously though.. I don't feel as bad for people getting Xbone versions of multiplats, if the scalar and the more pop in colours can bring games to the level of PS4 versions subjectively. Then again this may be just one game.. we'll see how the scaler fairs against PS4 versions of other games, but this is interesting to say the least... didn't see any of this coming.
Pseudo judo
Member
In how this one title runs, yes there certainly is. I imagine Ghosts will be even more glaring in Sony's favor, in the aliasing and texture detail department anyways.
In the end though what those PS4 numbers translate to on screen isn't as glaring as the stat sheets imply. Sony has said that the real gap in power won't be seen for another three years and judging from what we've seen so far that's true. If all that extra power resulted in the comparative difference in visual returns we're seeing now throughout nextgen, then I think PS4 fans might be disappointed.
Nah i understand bro..i should'nt add fuel to the fire and it's better to not stoop that low, I agree with you.
'Consensus' is irrelevant - there probably isn't full consensus for a single real issue worldwide. All the objective facts point towards ps4 and that's what matters. Anyone can come out with a random subjective opinion.
Also, I find it interesting that out of all the media outlets, it just happened to be DF who 'fucked it up' - conveniently (in view of their recent articles) muddying the water enough for people to latch onto.
Same as turning one audio component a little louder when buying them. The difference is heard as "better".
DerZuhälter
Member
Review event? No tinkering with HDMI settings? Dev-Kits?
Well fuck this. I'll be back for a proper comparison on retail consoles, with a retail version of the game.
Well fuck this. I'll be back for a proper comparison on retail consoles, with a retail version of the game.
FranXico
Member
Yes, they have used less than optimal settings while capturing in the past.
It looks like the rush to get the comparison up has made the PS4 version colors look softer than they actually are.
Check the JF videos instead to get a better idea of how the colors are like, but YT compression will hurt other things. :/
Legendary_Red
Banned
The PC gaming community does all of the above with free mods, many people prefer the overdone effects.
A good litmus test would be asking people if they prefer the overblown colors and contrast of SAMOLED panels over the color calibrated IPS LCDs that Apple uses. The answer might surprise you.
But it didnt bring it to PS4 levels. The DF footage is bad, and you should watch the Jackfrags videos. The difference, especially considering the resolution, is bigger than almost anything else from ps3-360 multiplats.
From what i see PS4 overall looks better but not by much...even with it being 900p and a 30-50 percent hardware difference it doesn't overwhelm you as much as you would expect. Both games look great...For some reason XB1 appears to be more pleasing to look at....But you can't argue with the "Jaggies" that appear on the XB1 version.
zomgbbqftw
Banned
Amazing screen from the IGN footage:
LOLOL
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nelsonroyale
Member
yeah....1080p has been basics on PC for years, even on weaker hardware than what we are seeing now...
As far as you know, you mean. You are welcome. Don't judge me; god knows my heart.