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The next wave of FPS Boost games for Xbox Series X|S has arrived - and in Prey and Dishonored Definitive Edition, we can better experience stone-cold classic titles from the brilliant Arkane Studio. Frame-rates are massively improved as you would expect, but it turns out that FPS Boost delivers *more* than just a doubling of performance...

D dark10x and Alex break down the latest additions to FPS Boost club on Series

Summary incoming (not sure what there is to summarize, this isn't a head to head, but we'll see):

Prey
- 60 fps on Series S and Series X
- X uses One X settings (1440p, I believe they mention, added SSR, etc, increased 16x AF on Series)
- Series S uses One S settings
- Input latency greatly improved running on Series
- Load times on last gen consoles are over a minute, load times on Series are in 10-13 seconds range
- D dark10x says all the improvements on Series make it feel like a pseudo-remaster

Dishonored
- Never got mid-gen patches, so locked on 1080p on all console platforms
- First title they have tested with FPS Boos that exhibits small issues, minor dips and hitches occasionally pop up associated with UI elements appearing on screen, wonder if it is legacy issue from the dated engine
- These minor dips only go as low as 57 fps in those spots
- Loading time improvement makes an even bigger difference than Prey, given the nature of the game, experimentation, constantly reloading for various reasons
- Last gen consoles load the game in 45 seconds
- Series loads the game in 1-2 seconds

Also, for the quota:

Spoiler

 

[Andodalf]

That Batman nod... Plz let them know

 

[Ma-Yuan]

It's funny next Gen is all about last Gen games even I played more ps4 then ps5 on my ps5. Honestly this is the worst new Gen ever. Luckily the last gen was brilliant.

 

[Stuart360]

It's funny next Gen is all about last Gen games even I played more ps4 then ps5 on my ps5. Honestly this is the worst new Gen ever. Luckily the last gen was brilliant.

It seems obvious to me that the consoles were supposed to launch this year, not last. Obviously they both wanted to be out first though.

 

[Andodalf]

It seems obvious to me that the consoles were supposed to launch this year, not last. Obviously they both wanted to be out first though.

No, they were 100% "Supposed" to come out in 2020. Software being late has nothing to do with hardware being ready. Covid messed up software but hardware was far further along.

 

[AnotherOne]

 

[NickFire]

It seems obvious to me that the consoles were supposed to launch this year, not last. Obviously they both wanted to be out first though.

I'm not completely convinced that they each targeted last year to prevent being second. It's possible they expected much more stuff to be ready by now / close to now and had delays due to Covid. But I am definitely suspicious because this new gen is absolutely starved for new gen games. All the news about better versions is fine and dandy, but it does nothing for me personally.

 

[Stuart360]

No, they were 100% "Supposed" to come out in 2020. Software being late has nothing to do with hardware being ready. Covid messed up software but hardware was far further along.

And likewsie, hardware being ready doesnt mean you have to launch then if you have no software.
Imo at least one of them had this year as the launch date when they orig started planning. In fact werent there a lot of rumours that PS5 WAS supposed to launch this year?

 

[Leyasu]

Prey is a such a great game. I am so glad that I never played this before.

 

[CatLady]

Prey is a such a great game. I am so glad that I never played this before.

I'm so jealous. I wish I could play Prey for the first time again.

 

[Leyasu]

I'm so jealous. I wish I could play Prey for the first time again.

lol. I'm loving it. Taking my time and exploring everywhere nook and cranny whilst I do the occasional mission. Amazing game

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Prey is a such a great game. I am so glad that I never played this before.

I never played it, and I dont think many people have played the Prey games (even the old one). It's a game that is ignored by their marketing department.

 

[Riky]

Playing Dishonored on my Series S this morning and it's pretty amazing what they've done here without so much as a patch, brilliant.

 

[Soodanim]

Playing Dishonored 2 on my PC is something I rarely do because the initial load with an SSD still takes forever and a day. If they manage to do the same on console, well done them. I don't remember how long 1 takes.

 

[Stuart360]

Its weird how 'FPS Boost' is sometimes boosting the XB1 version of games, and some Boost games are boosting the OneX versions. I guess that explains why Fallout 4 and 76 looked lower rez, as they are probably the XB1 versions being boosted.

 

[Schmick]

"Series loads the game in 1-2 seconds"

Wow!

 

[Vasto]

 

[Stuart360]

Alex 'I'd love to see some more Cryengine games given FPS Boost. I think Rage would make a good candidate because we already got Rage running very well at 60fps on PC'

 

[GaviotaGrande]

Prey is a such a great game. I am so glad that I never played this before.

Man, I'm jealous. But maybe not because I played it on PC in 4k 120 FPS with mouse and keyboard, super fast loading and high FOV. Okay, I'm not jealous.

Enjoy!

 

[Fredrik]

Alex 'I'd love to see some more Cryengine games given FPS Boost. I think Rage would make a good candidate because we already got Rage running very well at 60fps on PC'

I heard Ryse, might’ve heard wrong though

 

[Stuart360]

I heard Ryse, might’ve heard wrong though

Actually you may be right as Rage used Id tech, and Ryse used Cryengine.
I was sure he said Rage lol, now i feel dumb, sorry Alex.

 

[Romulus]

Man, I'm jealous. But maybe not because I played it on PC in 4k 120 FPS with mouse and keyboard. Okay, I'm not jealous.

Enjoy!

I'll wait for VR and 144fps

 

[GaviotaGrande]

I'll wait for VR and 144fps

Unfortunately current 4k OLED TVs can only output up to 120FPS.

 

[Tickle My Tendies]

I like their suggestions for upcoming FPS Boost candidates

Ryse: Son of Rome
Arkham Knight

does Dishonored 2 run at 60fps on One X/Pro? If not, would be nice to add Dishonored 2 to the FPS Boost club

 

[intbal]

I like their suggestions for upcoming FPS Boost candidates

Ryse: Son of Rome
Arkham Knight

does Dishonored 2 run at 60fps on One X/Pro? If not, would be nice to add Dishonored 2 to the FPS Boost club

Arkham Knight doesn't need it as much as Batman: Return to Arkham. Those games are locked to a completely wacky 45fps. So is Condemned: Criminal Origins.
Crysis 2 and 3 are locked at 31fps, which causes non-stop judder.
I'm sure there are other examples which have screwed up framerates which ruin the experience.

 

[Salmon Snake]

I've been waiting for a 60 fps update for Prey on Playstation consoles, so I would buy the game.
It seems that wont happen.

Oh well, there are so many other games to play.

 

[Romulus]

Unfortunately current 4k OLED TVs can only output up to 120FPS.

VR can go alot higher tho, but I doubt it comes anytime soon.

 

[HotPocket69]

Dishonored isn’t worth a replay regardless of quicker loading and a better framerate. The AI is pure shit especially if you want to do perfect stealth.

Prey on the other hand is the best new Metroid that no one played because they’re stupid.

 

[VFXVeteran]

lol. I'm loving it. Taking my time and exploring everywhere nook and cranny whilst I do the occasional mission. Amazing game

Interesting. I might have to pick this one up. Never played it.

 

[Tickle My Tendies]

Wonder if RDR2 is one of those games where the dev declines the FPS Boost support in favor of releasing their own remaster later

 

[Leyasu]

Interesting. I might have to pick this one up. Never played it.

Well worth the playthrough. You won't regret it

 

[Andodalf]

Interesting. I might have to pick this one up. Never played it.

It’s a great immersive sim. Gotg quality

 

[VFXVeteran]

Just bought it on sale from Greenmangaming for $8. Going to start the campaign tonight.

 

[Leyasu]

Just bought it on sale from Greenmangaming for $8. Going to start the campaign tonight.

Enjoy.

Explore everywhere, pickup trash to recycle and take your time. Also, keep your phone handy for a quick internet search incase you want any hints or tips.

I am loving this game at the minute

 

[Hendrick's]

Started replaying Dishonored last night and it's still a great game. 1080p is noticeable, but works okay with the muddy art style. Plays smooth as butter though.

 

[Great Hair]

Did not wathc DF´s video, but based on FO4, nothing special about it. After months of PR, this looks like just a change under the graphic settings menu.

Ultra, 4K30 or Low, 2K60

 

[Rockman33]

Been wanting to play Prey for a while now. This seems like the perfect thing to push me over the edge.

 

[dxdt]

Did not wathc DF´s video, but based on FO4, nothing special about it. After months of PR, this looks like just a change under the graphic settings menu.

Ultra, 4K30 or Low, 2K60

What did PR promise and what was delivered?

 

[HotPocket69]

Wonder if RDR2 is one of those games where the dev declines the FPS Boost support in favor of releasing their own remaster later

Ya think? Rockstar does what they want when they want. They also aren’t owned by Microsoft.

Really?

 

[Stuart360]

Did not wathc DF´s video, but based on FO4, nothing special about it. After months of PR, this looks like just a change under the graphic settings menu.

Ultra, 4K30 or Low, 2K60

The FPS Boost technique doesnt touch settings, but it does seem there is something going on with Fallout 4 and 76. All the other games look identicle, with identicle resolution to their XB1 or OneX version (Skyrim at 4k for example).
Also a bit harsh to say 'after months of PR'. They only first mentioned FPS Boost about a month ago with those first few games, then only mentioned it again this week with the Bethesda games.

 

[Memorabilia]

No, they were 100% "Supposed" to come out in 2020. Software being late has nothing to do with hardware being ready. Covid messed up software but hardware was far further along.

PotAYto, PotAHto

 

[Men_in_Boxes]

Not a game changer.

This is the Pepsi challenge for gaming.

Played the first 6 months of Fortnite at 30fps. In love with it.

Epic boosted it to 60fps. Didn't love it any more or any less.

I prefer everything at 60fps now but if the entire industry went back to 30fps, we'd all adjust in a few days time.

 

[Memorabilia]

Did not wathc DF´s video, but based on FO4, nothing special about it. After months of PR, this looks like just a change under the graphic settings menu.

Ultra, 4K30 or Low, 2K60

What do you think the point of "FPS Boost" is supposed to be?

(F)rames
(P)er
(S)econd

 

[GametimeUK]

It's funny next Gen is all about last Gen games even I played more ps4 then ps5 on my ps5. Honestly this is the worst new Gen ever. Luckily the last gen was brilliant.

Because last gen games didn't run well on last gen hardware. Console players are finally getting decent performance and it's a fantastic step forward. I'd say this generation has started off better than last gen for sure.

 

[Shmunter]

That Prey update is hnnnngghhh

But what of the elephant in the room with the rest of the batch seemingly running Xbox VCR versions on XsX? Bug?

 

[Max_Po]

Did not wathc DF´s video, but based on FO4, nothing special about it. After months of PR, this looks like just a change under the graphic settings menu.

Ultra, 4K30 or Low, 2K60

I installed it and I noticed the image was soft. I knew the resolution was lower than before.

 

[TheRobot]

Now patch Dishonored 2 please, it's literally unplayable with that input lag.

 

[ZehDon]

Did not wathc DF´s video, but based on FO4, nothing special about it. After months of PR, this looks like just a change under the graphic settings menu.

Ultra, 4K30 or Low, 2K60

Let me see if I understand this...

Posts in a thread about a video on Prey and Dishonoured.
Proudly declares they didn't watch video.
Proceeds to post images from a different video about a different game.
Claims nothing special about Prey or Dishonoured based on images not from Prey or Dishonoured taken from a video not being discussed.

What a fucking terrible post.

 

[Panajev2001a]

The FPS Boost technique doesnt touch settings, but it does seem there is something going on with Fallout 4 and 76. All the other games look identicle, with identicle resolution to their XB1 or OneX version (Skyrim at 4k for example).
Also a bit harsh to say 'after months of PR'. They only first mentioned FPS Boost about a month ago with those first few games, then only mentioned it again this week with the Bethesda games.

True, but... they mentioned the frame doubling boost they were investigating in when DF was covering BC early on. People have choice, some games like Skyrim and Prey are the enhanced Xbox One X edition at 60 FPS (right?) while others are running either the base Xbox One version or a lower resolution version at 60 FPS. Still great for players, but they were not very transparent about the tradeoffs in the earlier PR.

 

[GaviotaGrande]

Did not wathc DF´s video, but based on FO4, nothing special about it. After months of PR, this looks like just a change under the graphic settings menu.

Ultra, 4K30 or Low, 2K60

I have a suggestion: watch the DF video.