Hot5pur
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I found things to be not dramatically different, but some classes may need more careful skill choice early on.
By the time you get to around level 20 things tend to balance out a bit.
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By the time you get to around level 20 things tend to balance out a bit.
Beastclaw Raider
Banned
Necro is Diablo 3 mode. It was always the easy mode but in this one it's even worst IMO
Reizo Ryuu
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So how long does it take to get to level 20? I don't have too much time this weekend.
Beastclaw Raider
Banned
Second update I got since last night and instant login this morning
STARSBarry
Gold Member
I really enjoyed my time with the Druid this weekend, got it to lvl 25 and I think iv made my pick for launch.
nightmare-slain
Member
this is a game that'll be going well into the 2030s. they'll sort it out. i know people want a perfectly balanced game at launch but it's not going to happen. either just enjoy the game for what it is and go along for the ride or wait until it's sorted. not getting at you specifically lol i'm just seeing a lot of people talk about balance. this is the first 25 lvls of the campaign. if shit is broken in the campaign it doesn't really matter. nobody really plays Diablo for the story. it's all about endgame content and seasons. months and years down the line.
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funking giblet
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Yeah this balance talk is weird. The game s barely started. Wait until you see leapquake barbs pulling in all the enemies on a level and one hitting them for the 100th consecutive time, 300 hours after they finished story mode.
We used to level the characters in an afternoon to start grinding gear.
We used to level the characters in an afternoon to start grinding gear.
Bitmap Frogs
Mr. Community
if every act is like act 1, alts are going to start with 8 skill points which is a massive advantadge and reportedly paragon board points are shared as well.
nightmare-slain
Member
i haven't played Diablo 3 for a while but when i did play seasons i'd get someone to boost me so i didn't have to play through the campaign. in a year from now (maybe sooner) that's what people will be doing. the entire campaign will be skipped in a few hours. it's basically meaningless.
nightmare-slain
Member
what clan? do i get more XP if i join? i want to get to lvl 20 but don't have a lot of time to play.
Kacho
Member
Takes a solid few hours solo. Maybe like 3-4. It’s not bad.
AJUMP23
Gold Member
Gaf clan. Just search neogaf and request invite.
nightmare-slain
Member
Does playing in a clan give more experience?
Antwix
Member
The way I see it, it kinda adds to the replayability. Like in D2 in the story, when would anyone go back to act 1 to farm? Never. Who knows though. I've seen people claim they were in the full closed beta and the monsters eventually stopped scaling. World tier 3 basically starts from that point.
Kacho
Member
Nah just makes the experience more social and easier to find groups. The devs said it will be basic at launch and add more features over time.
amigastar
Member
I found this:
When you are close together (~3 screens radius) you get a Party Bonus buff, increasing XP gains by 5%/8%/11% depending on the number of nearby party members.
I guess we have to find out by playing with other Clan members.
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AJUMP23
Gold Member
No idea.
Kacho
Member
Some notes from a dev interview. Stolen from Reddit.
- they are looking at ways to reduce re-grinding of renown for seasons (unfortunately the wording used was not "completely remove", but "reduce"
) - leaderboards will be designed in such a way that you won't feel compelled/pressured to play a certain class or a certain meta build. (Good luck with that lol.)
- best uniques in the game very likely not obtainable via gambling (Devs weren't 100% sure)
- clans will be basic at launch, but they are looking to expand them
- seasons are planned to be 3 months long, they'll try to have a fixed schedule for them and reduce the overlap with D2:R and D3 seasons
- D3 related: starting from season 30, seasons will repeat
- the battlepass will be 100% cosmetic, and won't contain things like the Haedrig's Gift from D3, even in the free reward track. Any future gameplay elements will be added via the Seasonal Journey.
- no gigantic multipliers akin to D3 ever planned, in fact they are specifically trying to get away from D3's itemization. They want to give players as much freedom as possible when itemizing and never lock them into using certain skills or items - this specifically is the reason cited why there are currently no sets in the game, they want to avoid transforming the itemization into a simple checklist.
- sets are likely to happen eventually, after they found a good design for them (They apparently really want to distance themselves from D3 lol)
- no current plans for expanding the white and blue items in the end-game.
- ultimate goal of the beta: stressing the servers. They already fixed some backend/infrastructure bugs.
- they are focusing on class feedback and ui feedback. They are aware that different classes have different powerlevels throughout the game. (Personally I think this is fine - end-game balance should be the most important aspect, since there we'll spend 99% of our time)
- druid's class mechanic won't be available during the beta, since it requires traveling in different parts of the world not available in the beta
- gathering a lot of quality of life feedback, and they're aware of most QoL issues
- they were very invested in bringing runewords back, and they tested a lot of iterations. They want them to work with D4's itemization, without ruining their feeling from D2 and without making them overbearing like in D2
- they are planning to bring more end-game content (duh)
- they are aware of the gem cluttering inventories. They're looking to address is (Possibly by adding a gem inventory slot)
- pace of the game is purposefully placed between D2 and D3. They don't want you to crawl, nor fly through the map.
- when asked about cows they answered: "There is no cow level" (wink wink)
hinch7
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Still in the early stages but yeah its quite fun smashing things with a big 2 hander. Just killed the second boss so not that far but can imagine once the end game starts that Barb starts scaling much better wtih gear. Haven't dumped all my points into a skill yet but the rends and Upheaval and other shouts that charge power, buff and heal; I can see are the ones to go for.
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Beastclaw Raider
Banned
For everyone asking about bosses and corpses for necro, use blood mist it makes you invulnerable and for every second of it, it'll create a corpse. Then use the corpse aoe poison cloud or bring back up on your skeletons. Easy peasy
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Freeman76
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Grim dawn is pretty cool but it doesnt really hold a candle to Diablo or Path of Exile. If you havent played it I would recommend Diablo 3 over Grim Dawn.
amigastar
Member
I've enjoyed Grim Dawn more than Diablo 3. Never really played Path of Exile for too long.
Boneless
Member
You need to roll with the Ghastly Blood Mist for that though!
nightmare-slain
Member
do you need to be a certain level or make progress to a specific point to fight the boss?
nightmare-slain
Member
the americans are here. having to wait in a bloody queue
nightmare-slain
Member
Why would you want to buy a physical copy?
It's a live service always online game and will get a fuck load of patches over the next 10+ years.
or are you gonna save $5?
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Kacho
Member
Pretty sure you can YOLO him at any level.
MikeM
Member
Imagine a world where people like to collect physical versions of games
Kacho
Member
the americans are here. having to wait in a bloody queue
Evolved1
make sure the pudding isn't too soggy but that just ruins everything
I don't like any of necro's basic attacks. They're all kinda boring. So are the core skills too, tbh. I guess it's down to sorcerer and rogue for final game.
Wish there was a paladin.
Welp... game is back to constant errors and long queues. Wait your turn. Error. Restart and wait your turn. Damn.
Wish there was a paladin.
Welp... game is back to constant errors and long queues. Wait your turn. Error. Restart and wait your turn. Damn.
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Nydius
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nightmare-slain
Member
my game has bugged out i think. i can't progress the story anymore.
fuckin yey. well there goes getting the beta rewards
fuckin yey. well there goes getting the beta rewards
collecting physical games makes no sense anymore.
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Kacho
Member
What level are you? After the world boss I’m down to group. Need to level my drood.my game has bugged out i think. i can't progress the story anymore.
fuckin yey. well there goes getting the beta rewards
collecting physical games makes no sense anymore.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
the americans are here. having to wait in a bloody queue
nightmare-slain
Member
i'm level 11 but can't progress the story anymore. when i go to the quest marker nothing happens because it's not updated. it says to go up somes stairs which i did already. there was a cutscene and the character says to go back to some place but there is no quest markers or directions where to go. the only other quest markers are for act 2/3 which of course aren't in the beta.
i'll try again later to see if it sorts itself out.
Kacho
Member
When I have issues like that I just restart the game. On PC I’d restart the client as well. You’ll be fine. Don’t fret.
MikeM
Member
Makes plenty of sense to lots of people. If its not for you, then cool. No need to shit on others because they like physical games.my game has bugged out i think. i can't progress the story anymore.
fuckin yey. well there goes getting the beta rewards
collecting physical games makes no sense anymore.
Ogbert
Member
The game simply isn’t balanced at low level. It’s impossible.
Melee is pointless when resource starved. We’ll know what barb is like when it gets deep into end game. And Necro might well go the other way as single target dps can suck.
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