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Did the Destiny 2 Forsaken reveal do anything for you?
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Neolombax
Member
There was a rumor that D2 already went into production before/during the time of the Taken King, hence why we did not see most of the improvement that we already had by Y3 being carried over into D2. True this isn't new, but for me personally, D2 was already made the way it was and nothing can change that. The fact that the current team was willing to change the base game closer to what we had in D1 is always a plus point.
I'd also argue that D2 on its own was already a full experience. It may not be the best experience, but it was complete. I can see where you're coming from, but isn't this almost always the case with MMO game models?
Anyways, I just wanted to point this out to folks out there to clear this misconception. How folks perceive the game as a whole now is totally up to one's interpretation. It really is unfortunate how Destiny came to its current state, but it is improving at least.
WaterAstro
Member
Dev Diaries do nothing for me.
ultrazilla
Member
So far, I love what I'm seeing with "Forsaken". As for the complaints on the annual passes I just don't understand why players think they'd get basically another new game(the annual pass has like what? 3 expansions and Forsaken on it?) for free. Trust me, I know it's not cheap and sometimes I struggle financially but the days of getting endless, free add on content are LONG GONE.
Besides, I view Destiny as a "World of Warcraft" type massive MMO/FPS hybrid and IMHO I'll gladly pay anywhere from $40-$100 for versions of the annual pass compared to a $10 a month required
subscription fee to play the game($120 for the year). I was actually afraid Activision and Bungie were going to go the monthly paid subscription model or "free to play" with Destiny and neither one
was acceptable to me.
So the annual pass(at least for me) is a great compromise and something I welcome over the other options we *could* have gotten above.
Veteran Destiny players by now should have a firm grasp on this concept. Otherwise players are free to not purchase the content and be happy with what they have.
Besides, I view Destiny as a "World of Warcraft" type massive MMO/FPS hybrid and IMHO I'll gladly pay anywhere from $40-$100 for versions of the annual pass compared to a $10 a month required
subscription fee to play the game($120 for the year). I was actually afraid Activision and Bungie were going to go the monthly paid subscription model or "free to play" with Destiny and neither one
was acceptable to me.
So the annual pass(at least for me) is a great compromise and something I welcome over the other options we *could* have gotten above.
Veteran Destiny players by now should have a firm grasp on this concept. Otherwise players are free to not purchase the content and be happy with what they have.
Terce
Member
With all due respect man, you only paid $100 for the game. You also gave $100 to a friend and bought a bunch of extra crap completely unrelated and not at all required for the game.
It's a $60 game, no one else's fault but your own that you wasted 5 times that.
LaughingStock
Member
It's a good thing fixes are for free then. Content isn't though.
Lanrutcon
Member
Yeah, no.
The first season's DLC was a joke. I doubt they're fixing that for free.
I'll check back on Destiny 2 in 2020.
LaughingStock
Member
Curse of Osiris may not be a great piece of DLC. But there's nothing broken about it that requires a fix.
By "fix" in my previous post i meant the quality of life changes. And those are for everyone.
Trogdor1123
Gold Member
Gambit sounds pretty great after thinking about it for a while. That could be fun. I won't be getting back into destiny till they totally have an actual complete edition.
recklesscognition
Member
Looks cool but since I have no friends and can't be bothered to schedule gaming time with others, Incan scratch my itch with an hour of crucible and some strikes without having to pay for dlc.
OH-MyCar
Member
As someone who screwed up, bought the season pass and has barely even played it: I started off that video a bit more pessimistic than I ended it (although I hate those "fun & relatable" scripted dev bits for anything).
I need a far bigger reason to feel enthusiastic again than that video, but I logged back in last night for the first time since release. I guess that has to count for something.
I need a far bigger reason to feel enthusiastic again than that video, but I logged back in last night for the first time since release. I guess that has to count for something.
New enemies and races should have been in vanilla destiny 2. I also bought the season pass, and the biggest slap in the face was just how samey the experience was in minute one. They had minor tweaks to some enemies but it was mostly the same. Guns were like this too for the most part.
The fact I need to pay another $75 for a full year of content..... really curious how that will work out for them. No way I’m gonna do that after paying $90 for a season pass that didn’t really lead to much. And we all know $35 for the base dlc or whatever is gonna last maybe 2 months before it’s out of date due to updates that require the years worth of content.
So hard pass unless the game blows minds
The fact I need to pay another $75 for a full year of content..... really curious how that will work out for them. No way I’m gonna do that after paying $90 for a season pass that didn’t really lead to much. And we all know $35 for the base dlc or whatever is gonna last maybe 2 months before it’s out of date due to updates that require the years worth of content.
So hard pass unless the game blows minds
MDSLKTR
Member
It's so masturbatory. Still, after watching the vidoc... sigh... I'm in as soon as there's a black Friday sale. Can't miss bow and arrow action with destiny gameplay.
Garnox
Member
I never left. I joined the D1 train four months before D2 released and played the hell out of it in the summer (I’m a teacher)
Once D2 came out, I didn’t really truly feel like I was leaving much behind in the way of time/progress/memories... so I didn’t feel the slight many felt.
So I continued to play while many left. Even though I knew many things were lacking from the short time I invested in D1, I still enjoyed the overall experience. Hoping that at some point D2 will be where D1 left off at year 3.
With the Forsaken, I’m stoked. The game I enjoy on a weekly basis is about to get a whole lot better. Meanwhile, those who played D1 from day 1, I can understand their Destiny fatigue.
At this point I don’t think they’re bringing a whole lot more to the table than what fans previously endured during the D1 dry spells. So I can’t blame them for not wanting to grind out the wait until it gets back to the “good ol’ days”.
I HOPE Bungie has learned a valuable lesson and once D3 comes out, they won’t hit that reset button and instead just carry the momentum at year 3 D2 into the next.
Once D2 came out, I didn’t really truly feel like I was leaving much behind in the way of time/progress/memories... so I didn’t feel the slight many felt.
So I continued to play while many left. Even though I knew many things were lacking from the short time I invested in D1, I still enjoyed the overall experience. Hoping that at some point D2 will be where D1 left off at year 3.
With the Forsaken, I’m stoked. The game I enjoy on a weekly basis is about to get a whole lot better. Meanwhile, those who played D1 from day 1, I can understand their Destiny fatigue.
At this point I don’t think they’re bringing a whole lot more to the table than what fans previously endured during the D1 dry spells. So I can’t blame them for not wanting to grind out the wait until it gets back to the “good ol’ days”.
I HOPE Bungie has learned a valuable lesson and once D3 comes out, they won’t hit that reset button and instead just carry the momentum at year 3 D2 into the next.
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Texas Pride
Banned
The DLC for 40 is expected. The annual pass bullshit was not. I think they've miscalculated exactly how much the community will take when they're basically charging for seasonal events we were all told Eververse was supposed to fund. It was a poor reveal dropping the annual pass with little to no info on what it truly is and why they need to charge for it on top of continuing the Eververse scam going at the same time. Imo they'd honestly be better off charging a flat monthly fee instead of this confusing shit.
ickythingz
Banned
Nope. Got this game for free with my 1080ti, played it for 5 minutes and uninstalled. Nothing this dev does is interesting nor fun. They are in it to rape you of money and it shows.
CuNi
Member
I wanted to give the expension a shot and when they said smaller updates in-between I was stoked.. Killed my enthusiasm when they revealed another season pass.. Me and the whole clan just agreed that we're done with D2. There are better games with better balancing and end game content for far less money than destiny. Good old bungie days are truly over it seems..
jadedm17
Member
First off I'd like to say - as Jim Sterling repeats - that $60 is an entry fee, let's be honest that $99 is the real price for a lot of games, namely anything AAA : Assassins Creed, Call of Duty, Fallout 4, etc. The complete experience is locked behind a season pass, normally $30-40.
Besides that I'll agree 100% but also say that "extra crap" is highly influenced : Fortnite is a free game I LOVE but I have a friend $300 in because skins are cool or something.
The problem isn't I spent $300, it's that I spent that getting a shell of a game that made so much progress in year one to destroy it all with a sequel, to then charge more for content outside the season pass but release a patch to play the game how it should have been ~9 months ago but that $99 you spent doesnt cover playing the new content with the update : Play old content with a severed base or pay more to finally play the game you wanted.
You can speak how you want but as someone who played over 1000 hours of Destiny 1 happily (it had issues but got addressed quickly enough and free to make me happy) it's my choice to find this all nonsense and rant it to anyone willing to listen in hopes to save their time and go to a game that respects them more.
Enjoy what you like but as far as Destiny it's far too little too late for me; I'm out. Fortnite is offering better updates free to a free game, I'm gonna throw my money at them for now.
My exact thoughts : I'm not saying Destiny 2 isn't worth your time or money, I'm saying there are many games that are far more deserving of both.
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LucidFeuer
Banned
I've always been intrigued by Destiny, except it has one big problem: no single player campaign.
That's the reason why as good as they look, I don't pay for a game that I can't play alone or were I to not be connected online...
It's a shame really, because I would certainly have been playing Overwatch, Battlefront I or Destiny...
That's the reason why as good as they look, I don't pay for a game that I can't play alone or were I to not be connected online...
It's a shame really, because I would certainly have been playing Overwatch, Battlefront I or Destiny...
InterMusketeer
Member
Nothing Destiny-related will ever do anything for me but bore me. Sorry.
Trogdor1123
Gold Member
You can do the entire campaign single player though...
LaughingStock
Member
Games like this are not about the campaign. The campaign is a prelude to the endgame. The endgame is about the grind.
You would probably hate it. But yeah, you can play any of the story missions alone.
Sakura Doritos
Member
Actually it did. Xbox player here and we have a work guild that gets together every now and then. We're about to do the current content and are hyped about the forsaken. I mean its not the best game ever but its solid mechanics, music is great. Graphics are good and groups are fun. Story is like playing a B sci-fi movie with a more agency. Am I as hyped as I was for the D2 base game. No.
Toe-Knee
Member
Alexander DeLarge
Member
Not at all. The gameplay loop is boring. Their content pipeline is laughable compared to other service games, especially on PC. Their monetization is obscene and I don't see myself ever touching the series again. I'm not completely closed off to it but between Elder Scrolls Online, Guild Wars 2, Path of Exile, Warframe and The Division? No thanks. It's not worth my time.
It's definitely not a $60 game. They might as well make the season pass mandatory if you're playing it in any serious capacity. Between the time gating mechanics and the power creep as a result of light levels constantly going up every 3-6 month... I can't imagine playing the game without the $40 season pass for an entire year.
It's definitely not a $60 game. They might as well make the season pass mandatory if you're playing it in any serious capacity. Between the time gating mechanics and the power creep as a result of light levels constantly going up every 3-6 month... I can't imagine playing the game without the $40 season pass for an entire year.
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VertigoOA
Banned
GAmes like warframe and Division also play like complete ass.
No worries tho. Destiny 2 will destroy its competitors same way the first game did. Close to toppling the janky Korean sweatshop shooter PUBG on Xbox live this week, but it’s a dead game right? Dumbasses
The cycle repeats itself for the 5th year in a row. Destiny is the most lied about ip by “gamers” I’ve ever witnessed. It’s always real easy to recognize who is completely full of shit and just regurgitating hyperbole and outrage culture.
No worries tho. Destiny 2 will destroy its competitors same way the first game did. Close to toppling the janky Korean sweatshop shooter PUBG on Xbox live this week, but it’s a dead game right? Dumbasses
The cycle repeats itself for the 5th year in a row. Destiny is the most lied about ip by “gamers” I’ve ever witnessed. It’s always real easy to recognize who is completely full of shit and just regurgitating hyperbole and outrage culture.
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Lanrutcon
Member
Hold on to that dream and never let it go, you brave little soldier.
Destiny 2 will be great.
Toe-Knee
Member
Thats a long ass day
I'll probably play it but killing Cayde is actually a negative for me.
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Memorabilia
Member
Man, after reading this thread I regret picking up the base game for like $3 ($8 - $5 Best Buy RZ cert). Lol Seriously tho, I think it's simple: Destiny's content pipeline is for people who don't mind being trickle fed scraps for way too much cash for the first couple years. Objectively, you're way better off buying the inevitable Legendary Edition when it drops in 2020 and comes down to $20. I paid $16 for D1 Legendary and feel like I got a great value out of it. Still playing now with a semi-active community. Good times. Had I tried playing it from the start I'd have felt ripped off and burnt out. So, why pick up D2 vanilla? Well...$3. Lol And, altho I know the vanilla game is useless in MP and is largely a Trojan horse into my wallet for the ridiculously over-priced DLC and season pass bullshit, I don't care bc I'm gonna just play thru the SP "campaign" then shelve this shit until I can buy the Legendary Edition for $20 or less. Simple.
I think Season 2 will crash so hard they will actually wonder if they should have given it to season 1 owners just to save the player base and their reputation. I'm not exaggerating when I say all of my closest online friends bought the season pass and have not even bothered trying the newest content drop, and none of my online friends are ever playing this game. Anecdotes shmamadotes, their filthy greed, failure to innovate, failure to get with the times and have decent sized pvp matches in terms of player counts, and 2004 demands to find friends on forums have destroyed both a once promising franchise and the name Bungie.
Krappadizzle
Gold Member
Could not care any less for the series. Bought both 1 and 2 and have no more interest in the series. Will not buy dlc, or even the third game. Bungie needs to drop the series and move onto to something else that they can actually do instead of putting out a half assed project and fixing it after the fact.
LaughingStock
Member
What they need to do is give the next iteration a full dev cycle, quit the saturday morning cartoon writing and stop trying to please people who hate the game.
For PVE it's ok. Patrol areas and strikes are always populated in my experience. PVP is more complicated. Quickplay is ok. Competitive and trials are more tricky. Specially on PC.
I read somewhere player count overall is low. Lower than D1 at its worst. Thanks to bungie's efforts to balance pvp.
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jadedm17
Member
The actual missions and raids weren't interesting, we were still fighting the same enemies and - even worse to me - they had the same boring A.I.
My biggest issue beyond that was completely boring epic weapons : Icebreaker, Thorn, anything interesting was removed.
I don't argue against it being a complete game, I argue it was a redundant one not worth the money to anyone who played the first game.
I also hated the weapon slot restructuring and toned down multiplayer, that was an odd choice.
My favorite metric is twitch : 6,020 viewers (1100 on the biggest stream)
Minecraft has 7,800 viewers.
Hot Lava (?) has 15,000
Grand Theft Auto V has 33,369 (4500 on biggest stream)
Dota 2 : 74,000
Fortnite : 177,000
I've checked day and night and the numbers don't seem better even at peak hours; It's not a perfect metric but it's also telling of how playing this game on stream will not make you much money if at all.
Edit : 5,000 people are in the top GTA V stream. Almost as many people watching one GTA V stream as the entire collective of Destiny 2 streams.
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