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Digital Foundry - Cyberpunk 2077: PS4 vs PS4 Pro Frame-Rate Tests - Can Consoles Run Cyberpunk?

Havent seen a single bug in 6 hours on pc, get with next gen 🤷🏼‍♂️

Console plebs crying like lil bitches

Don't believe you. I have 5 hours in the PC version and have come across several bugs, most of which are well documented at this stage.

Also, when I posted base PS4 footage yesterday you lost your shit, accused me of making assumptions and said it wasn't representative of what people would be playing because of the day one patch. Look how that turned out...

Now it's just "fuck console gamers"? It's almost as if the console gamers looking to get this game should have been more exposed to the reality of how the game plays on those platforms.
 
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This kind if performance is absolutely unnacceptable. If the game can't be run decently on last gen systems don't release on them. The way it is now is absolutely a joke.

15 FPS on PS4 base. 720 - 900p. So it'll probably run at 540 - 720p on the One S. Holy fuck.

Shame on CDPR.
 
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I submit ticked for refund yesterday. I am curious what they will do about it. For me this "smear" is too much because it looks bad but my wife can't even look while I am playing because she is getting some kind of motion-sickness which never happened to her.
 
Or the devs could at least been transparent about hardware limitations and open with consumers to let them decide for themselves

I was able to decide for myself and I had a preorder. Cancelled it once I saw impressions, it's not difficult.
 
How are you defending this shit? If it cant run on a console, come out and say it. Don't sell broken games to your fans. Looking rough is one thing. 15fps is a slap in the face.
The hell it's that bullshit. If you can't run it properly, just don't release it on such console. People will be angry too, but at least with the time would have accepted it and eventually buy it on next generation.
No one pretending to have the same graphic fidelity of an high end pc.

Tell that to Nintendo, almost all (modern 3d) games on switch are like that :messenger_beaming: running 720p or lower with low framerates. Even their 1st party cant hit 1080p always.

Just saying thay this is just 1 game and while it sucks + maybe it is not fair, there a whole system that does this all the time and they dont get even same level of response.

With cyberpunk im sure their options were:

1) release it to last gen systems too, to make the budget and time spent possible

2) dont make the game

We all know that PC alone cant support game like this for certain, because too many pirate their games. And current gen havent sold enough yet.

Give them time to fix it. If they cant do it, then it sucks.

But at least game launched for 39.90€ instead of 69.90€ so they are fair

I played few hours on PS5 and while it doesnt look the best yet, the blade runner atmosphere alone feels GOTY
 
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Ok I found the culprit why the game looks like shit in motion

Temporal AA is fucked up. Timestamped and screenshot.






Brother purchased this on PS4 Pro. Saw it running, immediately noted the pixel ghosting effect.

He pretty much dumped the PS4 Pro, and bought it for PC on GOG.
 
I was able to decide for myself and I had a preorder. Cancelled it once I saw impressions, it's not difficult.
Ya I agree with that. They should have discussed their issues working with the older hardware instead of saying it's working just fine. It sucks for everyone really
 
Brother purchased this on PS4 Pro. Saw it running, immediately noted the pixel ghosting effect.

He pretty much dumped the PS4 Pro, and bought it for PC on GOG.

I pirated PC version to see how it runs on my PC - and I've noticed those ghosting effects too.

I just want a refund on my PS4 version. I play on PS5 which is way better than PS4/Pro but that smear makes this game unplayable
 
CDPR is very dishonest with their advertising....after TW3, Cyberpunk fooled this generation's console owners making them expect a 30fps on their base consoles. I have a PS5 now but this is very disrespectful because of a simple fact: this is a game announced with PS4-XONE consoles and their users in mind. I'm glad their games do nothing for me so I just don't care....
 
Killzone: Shadow Fall and Infamous: Second Son, both launch PS4 titles, look amazing and run wonderfully on the system. There is no excuse for Cyberpunk to be running this poorly (at 720p even).
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Can you think for a second at what you just said? Go back and play a few minutes of each of those games. Then load up Cyberpunk and reconsider your comment THIS time having Cyberpunk's scope and scale into account.
 
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As John and Tom highlighted in the video, this feels like the closing days of the Xbox 360 era again. The game is just pressing the hardware beyond its limits. I remember Dragon Age Inquisition in particular being a mess on the Xbox 360:
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Is it acceptable? That's up to the individual to decide. I hope CD Projekt Red can deliver performance improvements and get that TAA under control on the base PS4, but ultimately, this is how many people are going to experience Cyberpunk for the first time, which is a little sad.
 
They built this game for Nvidia graphics cards, it's quite evident. Big focus on pushing tech which is good but as a console player I'm feeling very short changed here, i wish I could get a refund from PS store but that's quite hard I have been told. I'm on PS5 and the game has crashed 4 times in my play time this evening, feels janky when in the city area, especially in the car using third person cam.

Don't put CDPR up there with R* , naughty dog etc..they have a long way to go in terms of performance and it's just not acceptable for a studio who alot claim to be the best. Not even a stable 30fps choice for people, not sure how XSX is running in its back compat performance mode but the fact it has two modes is shitty to not give it to PS users.

Why would you include ND into this? They have been stuck on one platform since inception. It's not until now that they have to rewrite their engine to support multiple platforms.

Very unfair comparison.
 
CDP truly fucked up by releasing base console versions in this state. I love the company but this is their biggest fuckup to date (there have been a couple).

Pro and One X versions are mostly decent though. I wonder if it is even possible to release only Pro/X versions and not base versions? I would assume console manufacturers forbid that, and it's both nor none.

Even if that is the case though, they should have launched PC and nextgen versions only, and lastgen only when running acceptably. Or postpone all versions until that state is reached.

Having said all that, I am selfishly glad I can play the game now on my PC in 60fps looking gorgeous at ultra (albeit without RT), particularly when I have shit ton of free time.
 
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It can but you won't like it 😉

I don't know what to think of this... probably should be a PC launch only with XSX/PS5 coming next year but if people want it so bad that they'll play on a potato, why stop them?
 
If RDR2 can run at 1080p and mostly 30 fps (I believe) then CD Projekt should be able to do better than this. I don't expect them to reach Rockstar levels of optimization, but there's huge gap there.
The problem here seemingly is that the game is not targeting last gen. It's being ported down and this is what you get.
 
That you bought the game in advance without having secured a preorder is nobody's fault but your own. There is always limited stock available when consoles launch, you know this.

Again, I'm not upset I bought Cyberpunk. I'm upset that I can't get a PS5, or get myself on a waitlist for a PS5.
 
PS4, in general, runs on AMD Jaguar (I think that's what that CPU gen was called). A fucking LAPTOP POTATO CPU, which, even by laptop standards, was utter GARBAGE for its time.

Cyberpunk is an extremely heavily CPU bound game as well as GPU... and ppl expect the Potato of Potatoes® to run it?.... Guys please stahp, its like expecting to be able to talk to REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEra and not get branded a racist transphobe.
 

Good thing they did too. Once all the initial hype is over with, the only platform that will continue to play and mod this game is PC. It makes perfect sense to sacrifice all the peasants in a fire for the sake of the future.
 
Pretty shady to only hand out PC review copies knowing consoles are on N64 frame rates. So pissed at CDPR tbh. Sucks to see them release this trash and tarnish their brand. It wouldn't piss me off as much if it was any other game, but I was hyped for this game for years and this is what we get. They even have the audacity to brag about sales.... Fuck them.
Go play it on pc. You can turn down the settings, if your pc has a gpu (not integrated) from the last 5 years you should be fine. I turned off ray tracing on my 2060 rtx (just to see what peformance was like without the rtx) and was getting 100+ fps in the country on ultra settings 1080p. With ray tracing ultra on and balanced i am getting 56-70fps in the country zone (using dlss), granted i haven't been to city yet.

I remember playing games that low fps on ps3 and back in the day on pc in the quake days. You will get used to it. I am sure you are going to get a next gen console, just wait tilll you get one of them if you own the game. I get it, it sucks, but at this late stage it was bound to happen. Esepcially since the mid refresh exist. If 8th gen consoles were like normal releases, this game wouldn't of gotten released on it, or it would have a seperate cut down version. You know like how some games had seperate PS2/Xbox/GC versions and the proper 360/ps3/pc release last gen.
 
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I'm not kidding either.

Consoles have a 'lifecycle' and they will die, and then disappear as they become unable to be bought anymore. Who gives a fuck about the console version of the game then? It is static and will never change.

PC? A game on PC means it lives forever. Even if official dev support ends, mods and communities will keep a game alive. Look at Witcher 3. Support ended ages ago, yet look at how many mods exist that improve the game and keep it alive even today.

Pandering to a short lived platform with a guaranteed date of death is stupid.
 
I'm not kidding either.

Consoles have a 'lifecycle' and they will die, and then disappear as they become unable to be bought anymore. Who gives a fuck about the console version of the game then? It is static and will never change.

PC? A game on PC means it lives forever. Even if official dev support ends, mods and communities will keep a game alive. Look at Witcher 3. Support ended ages ago, yet look at how many mods exist that improve the game and keep it alive even today.

Pandering to a short lived platform with a guaranteed date of death is stupid.
So this is who they call the Lieutenants of the PC MasterRace :o
 
So this is who they call the Lieutenants of the PC MasterRace :eek:

Why should anyone give a fuck about a platform that's AT its end of life? The peasants should be grateful they even get to taste the fruit reserved exclusively for the true master race. They have no right to cry that they're only getting the peel, be grateful they get anything at all.
 
Shouldn't have been released on these consoles at all.

people need to stop acting so entitled. DO NOT PRE ORDER...even from CRPR. it's your own fault if you bought the game on console and you're not happy with it and unable to get a refund. Lesson learned hopefully???

it should've been obvious the game was gonna suck on consoles when they didn't show it off or let people review it. It wouldn't have killed you to wait for proper reviews/tests.
 
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Don't believe you. I have 5 hours in the PC version and have come across several bugs, most of which are well documented at this stage.

Also, when I posted base PS4 footage yesterday you lost your shit, accused me of making assumptions and said it wasn't representative of what people would be playing because of the day one patch. Look how that turned out...

Now it's just "fuck console gamers"? It's almost as if the console gamers looking to get this game should have been more exposed to the reality of how the game plays on those platforms.

i've been playing for close to 4 hours on XSX and have only encountered:

  • my car was semi floating (just the front) when i returned to it after a mission
  • some ambient sound issues where sounds im driving past stick around for too long
Thats it so far.
Playing in quality mode.
 
Kinda wondering if they have a patch roadmap or something. Just so people will know until when they need to wait until it becomes an acceptable experience.
 
Kinda wondering if they have a patch roadmap or something. Just so people will know until when they need to wait until it becomes an acceptable experience.

I hope so. This is CDProjektRed and they've always been very consumer friendly when it comes to updating their games. I just hope they don't take too long in making the game playable for us lowly PS4 owners.
 
I hope so. This is CDProjektRed and they've always been very consumer friendly when it comes to updating their games. I just hope they don't take too long in making the game playable for us lowly PS4 owners.
How is hiding console versions explicitly pre release and only saying it runs surprisingly well consumer friendly?
 
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