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Digital Foundry to stop counting Pixels in 2022.

assurdum

Member
You keep bringing up that game (sorry sure it's a good game), but it's not graphically advanced or something. Why couldn't Hitman 3 on the XSX achieve a better and stable FPS overall if the console is "so" much more powerful? It had and i think still has bad frame pacing issues and overall lower fps. 1800p vs what native 4K with almost no real difference in quality.

Hitman 3 is not a benchmark for the future since none of the other released games showed the same. It wasn't even a big difference at all in the end. Hitman 3 showed that it was engine related and not really good optimized on both platforms. I bet the next hitman will show completely different results since that one will be for sure....only next-gen.
It's not a coincidence he uses such game. It's the only with such resolution discrepancy and he continues to sell the idea is the normality. He is completely blinded to the MS PR words, there isn't nothing to do about it.
 

Riky

My little VRR pleasure pearl goes vrrrooommm.
It's not a coincidence he uses such game. It's the only with such resolution discrepancy and he continues to sell the idea is the normality. He is completely blinded to the MS PR words, there isn't nothing to do about it.

Nothing to do with MS, it's a third party game. The results are clear.
 

Snake29

Member
Nothing to do with MS, it's a third party game. The results are clear.

The results were clear with almost all launch games that the PS5 had the better version. But you couldn't handle that shit so you said "launch games do not matter bla bla bla", but one fucking game that isn't even a powerhouse is a benchmark title for the future for you?

That's why you try to hold on it, to have some argument.

We've been through this before but the difference between the machines is 17% and the difference in resolution was over 40% plus higher shadow settings on Xbox. A few framerate drops when hiding is some grass on one level is pretty irrelevant.
We've also seen big differences in other games like Doom Eternal and Metro Exodus.

You can't say Hitman 3 wasn't well optimized when it is one of the few games to run at 4k -60 without DRS.

But this has all been stated before.

Fixed that for you. It's you that was screaming that early games do not matter, only if it's Xbox.

Doom was clearly a thing since the studio was already under the Xbox Umbrella. Xbox studio makes Xbox version better....shocking.
 
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Wow 3 games and 2 with DRS. It's surely the normality :messenger_tears_of_joy:

Idk why you guys keep trying to downplay significant resolution differences. It doesn’t what you guys think because it’s literally physics as to why one of these pushed a higher pixel count than the other.

Guys are arguing against reality lol.
 

assurdum

Member
Idk why you guys keep trying to downplay significant resolution differences. It doesn’t what you guys think because it’s literally physics as to why one of these pushed a higher pixel count than the other.

Guys are arguing against reality lol.
Why you guys you keep to try to sell the idea the resolution found in Hitman 3 is the normality and 20/30% of more pixels occasionally is significant?
 

Riky

My little VRR pleasure pearl goes vrrrooommm.
Idk why you guys keep trying to downplay significant resolution differences. It doesn’t what you guys think because it’s literally physics as to why one of these pushed a higher pixel count than the other.

Guys are arguing against reality lol.

I did say people were upset by it, they have proved my point.

We'll see what happens when more compute heavy games arrive, will be interesting.
 

assurdum

Member
I did say people were upset by it, they have proved my point.

We'll see what happens when more compute heavy games arrive, will be interesting.
No you proved the DF point. The only who talked about it's just to make their stupid console war and you are the clear example of person like this
 
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Why you guys you keep to try to sell the idea the resolution found in Hitman 3 is the normality and 20/30% of more pixels occasionally is significant?

Dude I primarily play on PC. Im not selling anything as normal we’re just stating it as a fact. That’s not an insignificant difference. I mean if the difference upsets you you can reach out to Eidos.
 

assurdum

Member
Dude I primarily play on PC. Im not selling anything as normal we’re just stating it as a fact. That’s not an insignificant difference. I mean if the difference upsets you you can reach out to Eidos.
It's not a fact. It's your personal opinion. In my opinion such resolution difference is negligible because barely perceivable. But DF should continue to provide such data. They shouldn't talk about it as fundamental or important, it's just that which was wrong. And the hell it has to Eidos or Hitman 3 about the whole discussion lol, you can't be more childish...
 
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I did say people were upset by it, they have proved my point.

We'll see what happens when more compute heavy games arrive, will be interesting.

We’ve heard DF consistently mention this in their last few directs. That’s the direction of the industry without question.

So we’ll see how it all pans out.

DF made the right choice to move away from pixel counts.
 
It's not a fact. It's your personal opinion. In my opinion such resolution difference is negligible because barely perceivable. But DF should continue to provide such data. They shouldn't talk about it as fundamental or important.

It’s not my personal opinion that the resolution is higher. What are you even talking about man.

I honestly think you’re just typing anything at this point out of frustration.

Lay off the Gaff for a while dude.

Also if you can’t see a 30% different in resolution seek an optometrist because you have bigger things to worry about than rabidly arguing about resolutions online.
 
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assurdum

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It’s not my personal opinion that the resolution is higher. What are you even talking about man.

I honestly think you’re just typing anything at this point out of frustration.

Lay off the Gaff for a while dude.
The only frustrating person is you pal. Who has ever said resolution is not higher lol.
 

assurdum

Member
Come back when you’re no longer hurt. I’m a patient man I can explain these things to you because this topic is clearly over your head bro.
In what way I'm hurt lol. Why you persist to push me. You want to explain to me why native resolution higher is very important in the DLSS era? If for you is that important rejoice about it but until is barely perceivable why you are so upset if someone else downplay it?
 
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arvfab

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Idk why you guys keep trying to downplay significant resolution differences. It doesn’t what you guys think because it’s literally physics as to why one of these pushed a higher pixel count than the other.

Guys are arguing against reality lol.


Also physics...
 

Also physics...

Lol PS5 version was a native app. Also 8K doesn’t even matter because the console can’t even currently output that resolution.

But sure if you wanna utilize this game as a token ya got it Budd lol.
 

arvfab

Member
Lol PS5 version was a native app. Also 8K doesn’t even matter because the console can’t even currently output that resolution.

But sure if you wanna utilize this game as a token ya got it Budd lol.

Why you so upset about higher resolution? It's ok pal, calm down, topic clearly got over your head.
 
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assurdum

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Also if you can’t see a 30% different in resolution seek an optometrist because you have bigger things to worry about than rabidly arguing about resolutions online.
You know reconstruction are there for that specific reason, still I don't think 30% of more pixels via DRS are that easily visible but you can continue to convince us about otherwise for the whole thread as we are all blind if make you feel better.
 
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kyussman

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Does that mean no more 500% zooms to highlight ditterences no human could ever see without looking at their TV through the Hubble Space Telescope........oh,no.....how will we ever survive this!
 

eNT1TY

Member
What i learned in this thread: some people are going to celebrate the Hitman 3 performance difference (which for all intents and purposes is a bit of an outlier if measured against prior and subsequent results of most other comparisons) for like 3 more years. To some it is like a trophy of personal accomplishment, their very own xbox did that all by itself hold your head up high warriors and bask in this moment for the days to come.
 

assurdum

Member
Poor Riky. Now he can't say anymore to see a clear difference in resolution without the precious DF counts

Cry Reaction GIF by SpongeBob SquarePants
 
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CitizenZ

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How will they survive, i mean that's their whole schtick. Freeze a frame, zoom in to what no one can see, count pixels. Done. Amazing.
 

thewire

Member
We've been through this before but the difference between the machines is 17% and the difference in resolution was over 40% plus higher shadow settings on Xbox. A few framerate drops when hiding is some grass on one level is pretty irrelevant.
We've also seen big differences in other games like Doom Eternal and Metro Exodus.

You can't say Hitman 3 wasn't well optimized when it is one of the few games to run at 4k 60 without DRS.

But this has all been stated before.
Yet the most next gen tech demo running on unreal 5, had 20% better performance, better lod & resolution on a ps5 than series x and that’s even with the help of the coalition with the Xbox versions (a premier Xbox first party unreal engine dev), imagine if naughty dog helped out like coalition did what would the gap be?
 

Lognor

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Yet the most next gen tech demo running on unreal 5, had 20% better performance, better lod & resolution on a ps5 than series x and that’s even with the help of the coalition with the Xbox versions (a premier Xbox first party unreal engine dev), imagine if naughty dog helped out like coalition did what would the gap be?
You have to ask yourself why the coalition had to help out!

XSX has shown its advantages plenty. I'm not worried about it!
 

Riky

My little VRR pleasure pearl goes vrrrooommm.
Yet the most next gen tech demo running on unreal 5, had 20% better performance, better lod & resolution on a ps5 than series x and that’s even with the help of the coalition with the Xbox versions (a premier Xbox first party unreal engine dev), imagine if naughty dog helped out like coalition did what would the gap be?

Not really, the Hitman 3 was a constant difference, the whole game.
The Matrix demo was just a low point on one run, they even said ignore it as a benchmark as every run could be different.
Totally different situation, I don't know where you got LOD and resolution difference but I didn't see that in any comparison, even Epic said they are the same.
 
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