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Digital Foundry: Xbox Series X: Thermal + Power Consumption Analysis.
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Ulysses 31
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Pre-order validated.
CrysisFreak
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7nm RDNA2 chip is significantly more efficient than 16nm last-gen chip, what a surprise.
LeftThumbstick
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I'm hoping your comment was a sarcastic one but it's hard to tell on a forum post of course, but as he said in the video, the proof is in the pudding, and they have that very pudding to test themselves with no need for a script.
Low Moral Fibre
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Watching it now and looks very good.
If it really is more quiet than Xbox One X as DF suggest that is crazy impressive as I was playing with no sound on last night after my podcast finished and could only barely hear it from where I was sitting. I can hear my PS4 with open back headphones on pretty clearly unless I really crank the volume.
If it really is more quiet than Xbox One X as DF suggest that is crazy impressive as I was playing with no sound on last night after my podcast finished and could only barely hear it from where I was sitting. I can hear my PS4 with open back headphones on pretty clearly unless I really crank the volume.
Concern
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Ps5ProFoSho
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Anyone on either side that seriously thinks these consoles are going to fail in this way really needs to hang up their consoles jumpsuit and stop snorting doritos dust.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Series X thermals and power consumption look good, which is a promising sign for AMD's upcoming GPUs.
mansoor1980
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good analysis by DF ...... but the power consumption on newer titles will be higher....compared to BC titles
AgentP
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How does an external measurement of heat say anything about the temp of the APU?
skneogaf
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93xfan
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What do you disagree with in particular?
ethomaz
Banned
About that...
“The unit is designed to funnel in cool air from the base, take it through the console, then propel it out of the top - and that's where you find the ultimate heat centre for the console, lighting up in spectacular style on the thermal camera. Here, I noted a maximum of 62c - hotter than any console I've tested before, which is not surprising as this is the most powerful console I've tested. Put your hand above the console and you can feel the heat escape. In common with any console really, you do need to ensure that hot air can escape, so keeping Series X in an enclosed space is not a good idea.”
A BC title not talking full use of the hardware... I wonder which the temps of the APU runs to generate 62C external heat.
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Insane Metal
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62ºC at the top damn. But that's the 'exaust' so to speak, so that's not in the insides. The hot air is supposed to leave. Just don't put that in an enclosed space and you'll be fine.
Seems efficient enough.
Seems efficient enough.
NeonGhost
uses 'M$' - What year is it? Not 2002.
Oh god why are you gonna make me watch this guy I just want to destroy his face with a hammer
Lone Wolf
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I would suggest some anger management in that case.
gamechanger87
Member
Correct. All these bad boys will be hot. You want the exhaust to be hot. If its not you have a problem.
NeonGhost
uses 'M$' - What year is it? Not 2002.
It’s best to just release it
ZywyPL
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Well both the Radeon VII and RX 5700/XT do get hot despite being made in 7nm process. Same goes for Ryzen CPUs which are doing quite OK in a desktop application with all those huge cases and dozens of fans/AIOs, but in laptops/Mini ITX build they often throttle hard. And now in consoles we have a combo of the two stacked into really small, tight boxes. So yeah, that's quite an accomplishment we are seeing here from both AMD an MS.
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
SO I cant heat my apartment with an Xbox Series X?
Gears 5 on Series X is a native RDNA 2 title.
The APU temperature shouldnt really matter unless the heatsink is the worst heat sink ever made, give or take 10 degrees its still well below any TjMax........a good air cooler on a good processor should hover in the 70 degree range.
The Exhaust being 62C means the core itslef is somewhere around there as well.
Gears 5 on Series X is a native RDNA 2 title.
The APU temperature shouldnt really matter unless the heatsink is the worst heat sink ever made, give or take 10 degrees its still well below any TjMax........a good air cooler on a good processor should hover in the 70 degree range.
The Exhaust being 62C means the core itslef is somewhere around there as well.
ethomaz
Banned
Gears 5 is a old-gen game patched to take advantage of the additional Xbox Series X... not a game made to take advantage of Xbox Series X.SO I cant heat my apartment with an Xbox Series X?
Gears 5 on Series X is a native RDNA 2 title.
The APU temperature shouldnt really matter unless the heatsink is the worst heat sink ever made, give or take 10 degrees its still well below any TjMax........a good air cooler on a good processor should hover in the 70 degree range.
The Exhaust being 62C means the core itslef is somewhere around there as well.
These are two different concepts... only the second will take full advantage of the hardware... that is why even DF acknowledged that future next-gen only games should have increase numbers in both power draw and heat.
It is fair because it was their only option to test the system.
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M1chl
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I guess from the top you have pretty direct access to the cooler on APU itself? I think that's a fine temp. I think it would be better to show with some higher-resolution IR camera, because this way you don't really see where does it points to.
FunkMiller
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Wow. The console that was tested over and over again in multiple stress tests in the run up to its release function absolutely fine.
Its almost as if these things are thought about for years, and designed to work properly as a consumer product.
This goes for both XSX and Ps5, so if you genuinely think either has massive issues with cooling or reliability, you are, as your mother describes you when you’re not in the room: a fucking idiot.
Its almost as if these things are thought about for years, and designed to work properly as a consumer product.
This goes for both XSX and Ps5, so if you genuinely think either has massive issues with cooling or reliability, you are, as your mother describes you when you’re not in the room: a fucking idiot.
intbal
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Will it?
These are all BC games they're testing, right? Doesn't that mean the CPU is running in single-threaded mode? That would mean a 3.8Ghz clock speed instead of the 3.6Ghz clock in SMT mode. Does that make a difference in power consumption and heat? I don't know. I wish they could specifically test that and clarify.
mansoor1980
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the users will test it after it launches......but it looks good so far
Drunkensamurai
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Why does Phil Interact with these losers on Twitter.
Jigsaah
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Hey Colt's not bad. Some of the other yahoos though he parades around with though...Timdog for example. I mean yea he's an insider of sorts, but I just don't like how biased he is. Same goes for Dealer. You can have your opinion and even state facts without being condescending. However, you gotta understand who they are talking to. Plenty of Sony Fanboys watch them so they are often met with vitriol. Only so much I would take before verbally destroying people one at a time as well, if I'm being honest.Why does Phil Interact with these losers on Twitter.
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Neko Mimi Mode
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The "overheating" FUD was put to bed a long time ago, but it's nice to get further confirmation that it's bullshit.
System runs whisper quiet even under full load and is much more powerful, yet uses a good bit less power, than One X.
Great stuff.
Oh no, he liked a tweet with a quote from Richard that someone posted, let's cancel him.
System runs whisper quiet even under full load and is much more powerful, yet uses a good bit less power, than One X.
Great stuff.
Why does Phil Interact with these losers on Twitter.
Oh no, he liked a tweet with a quote from Richard that someone posted, let's cancel him.
Endless Fluff
Banned
Come on, Rich.
No console should be stuffed into a small cabinet. This has been a no-no ever since the PS2 launched.
Have you forgotten about your review for PS4 Pro 72XX revision?
No console should be stuffed into a small cabinet. This has been a no-no ever since the PS2 launched.
hemo memo
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Come on, Rich.
Have you forgotten about your review for PS4 Pro 72XX revision?
No console should be stuffed into a small cabinet. This has been a no-no ever since the PS2 launched.
Yeah it is so bad even the system architecture made a jab at it.
M1chl
Currently Gif and Meme Champion
This time it was by some professionals from France, so I guess that's more of a valid stuff on the first look. Besides I am not sure if "violently hot" has the same implication in English. Mayne words can be used in one language, but they are awkward in others. But we agree that Twitter is cancer of current internet.
ethomaz
Banned
From a Xbox YouTuber that received the console trying to touch it, screwing and removing the hand due the heat... and to be fair 62C will really toast your hand.
After that key Xbox Fans like Jez (Windows Central), Turrot (or something like), Jeff etc confirmed it is really heat on the top of the machine.
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Rocco Schiavone
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Why does Phil Interact with these losers on Twitter.
Those ''losers'' are his foot soldiers that's why.
hemo memo
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I first heard it from Jeff on Beastcast.
ethomaz
Banned
Come on, Rich.
Have you forgotten about your review for PS4 Pro 72XX revision?
No console should be stuffed into a small cabinet. This has been a no-no ever since the PS2 launched.
Probably because these temperatures are on rear and not top of the PS4 Pro.
BTW I don't have a PS4 Pro but it is criticized even today due these thermal issues.
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Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
Gears 5 is a native RDNA game on Series X.
It is effectively a port.
You saying its an old gen game that was patched, is the same as someone saying every port isnt taking advantage of the hardware its ported to it was just patched to work on the hardware.
Which doesnt make sense.
XB1 games running in compat mode are different to what Gears 5 is. In compat mode games are being emulated on the Series X, Gears 5 has been ported into becoming a native title, its already taking advantage of the Series X.
There is a difference.
Ports and Emulated titles arent one in the same, its part of the whole reason Smart Delivery is a thing.
Are all Smart Delivery games NOT taking advantage of the Series X?
So you gonna tell me Miles Morales on PS5 is NOT taking advantage of the PS4 because its actually a PS4 title that is prepatched to run on PS5?
See how dumb that sounds?
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ethomaz
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Miles Morales is a cross-gen game made to run on PS5 and PS4.... so it uses more the hardware than Gears that is a last-gen game made to run on Xbox One that received a patch to run on Xbox Series X|S.
That is pretty clear.
Said that Miles Morales is nowhere near to use the full PS5 hardware because it is being hold back by PS4.
PS5 only games will take advantage of the hardware.
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Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
So Ports are fine or NO?
Ohh shit I just realized who I was talking to.....youre that guy.
Nevermind.
S'all good whatever your point was I agree if it will end the conversation now.
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