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DNC is finally cutting down the field with new rules for Dec. Debate. Only 6 candidates are likely to qualify.

Afro Republican

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The fundraising threshold for participation has been increased somewhat compared to the October and November debates, with the December event requiring at t least 200,000 unique donors, and a minimum of 800 individual donors per state in at least 20 states. This is an increase from the prior threshold of 165,000 unique donors and 600 individual donors per state threshold.

The polling standard has also been increased in a way that will cut the field down more than the donor requirements.

To make the December debate, candidates must hit 4 percent support in at least four DNC-approved polls of primary voters nationally or in early-voting states, such as Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada or South Carolina. Alternately, candidates can qualify by hitting 6 percent in two approved early-state polls and forgo the national polls.
NumCandidatePolls AND DonorsDonors Only
1Joe Biden
2Pete Buttigieg
3Kamala Harris
4Amy Klobuchar
5Bernie Sanders
6Elizabeth Warren
Not Qualified
7Andrew Yang
8Cory Booker
9Tom Steyer
10Julian Castro
11Tulsi Gabbard
12Michael Bennet
13Steve Bullock
14John Delaney
15Tim Ryan
16Joe Sestak
17Marianne Williamson
18Mike Bloomberg


(Keep in mind Bloomberg and Deval polls will start this week so there's a chance Deval could get in, Blooomberg funds his own campaign effectively removing him from the debates since the DNC, unlike the RNC, has anti-democratic rules despite being called the democrat party.)

So looking at this chart only 6 candidates qualify:

Joe Biden
Amy Klobuchar,
Kamala Harris
Pete Bootyedge
Bernie Sanders
Elizabeth Warren

and these will likely remain the only ones who qualify, how Amy Klobuchar keeps getting these polls and funds is a continuing mystery.

As the qualifications state you need to score 4% in 4 DNC-approved polls. Or hitting 6% in two early primary state polls.

Then you need 200,000 individual donors, with at least 800 donors in 20 states.

While Booker and Yang have the donors, they do not have the polls, with Yangs highest being 3% and several being 2-1% while Booker is having similar luck.

These rules basically mean that outside Deval, it's likely no one has a chance unless Yang and Booker get lucky with the next 2-3 polls, in getting in this debate. So that means that the 6 currently qualified may be the only ones on stage completely shifting the race and likely resulting in many of these candidates dropping out.

Why? Because this is the last major debate before the new year, and the momentum here will go into the events that follow before the first votes take place in Iowa, so missing this debate will be a massive blow to anyones 2020 prospects.

Yes this means people with cult following like Tulsi will have to throw her out like a Rand Paul and move on. But to be honest we already have way too many people, we only had one new drop out today and it's about time to narrow the field. Many of the candidates that don't qualify will run out of money before the first debate anyway. Expect news about some of these campaigns taking out loans or being caught for pac violations to stay in out of desperation.

Again, Amy Klobuchars somehow doing very well off-screen and it's becoming more and more suspicious by the day.

Out of the top 6, Warren is in freefall and Kamala is the weakest link with her losing tons of money, several resignations, and falling poll numbers. Both Warren and Kamala need this debate to go well and will likely be the last chance for both:

1. Warren need to reverse he decline or she won't be able to recover.

2. Kamala basically need to interrupt to get as much speaking time as possible and prepare notes on who to attack during which subject because this is the only way for her to stay in.

The other 4 are fine, though Pete is wobbling outside of Iowa, they all are relatively stable, especially Biden.
 

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I'm pretty sure Tulsi has confirmed that she hit the donor requirements. That, and she only needs one more poll to qualify. She's got a chance at making it.
 
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I cant wait to see trump debate one of em and mop the floor with em

Doesn’t matter which one.

They’ll all look like fools on any stage with Trump

If I’m wrong and they make Trump look foolish, every post who disagrees with me today gets $25 via PayPal

(Which means you’ll get $0.00)
 

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I'm pretty sure Tulsi has confirmed that she hit the donor requirements. That, and she only needs one more poll to qualify. She's got a chance at making it.
This thread is from today so that's unlikely. She might be close to hitting the donors likely, but looking at the last few polls she's going to need at least two more if not three polls depending on which of the previous polls are "dnc-approved" so she might make it but almost all the lower polling candidates have dropped since last month so it won't be easy.
 

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Moomoo beat me to it, but Tulsi already met the donor criteria. DNC's ignoring a Suffolk poll where she had 6% support and the only reason for it seems to be because it was printed by the Boston Globe instead of one of the 15 news outlets they recognize for their debate criteria - they accepted Suffolk polling when USA Today ran it. If there's another reason for it I'd like to hear it because otherwise that's a twisted way to remove a candidate.


Her sister was complaining about the poll being denied while using Tulsi's account a few days ago, but looks like it might have since been deleted because I don't see it up anymore.

 

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Moomoo beat me to it, but Tulsi already met the donor criteria. DNC's ignoring a Suffolk poll where she had 6% support and the only reason for it seems to be because it was printed by the Boston Globe instead of one of the 15 news outlets they recognize for their debate criteria - they accepted Suffolk polling when USA Today ran it. If there's another reason for it I'd like to hear it because otherwise that's a twisted way to remove a candidate.


Her sister was complaining about the poll being denied while using Tulsi's account a few days ago, but looks like it might have since been deleted because I don't see it up anymore.

The DNC interpreting rules in ways that benefit their centrist agenda? SHOCK!

I was confused why Yang and Tulsi weren't on the list since I could've sworn I saw them poll at 6% on multiple polls already, I guess this is why.
 
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It is truly bizarre to hear Klobuchar as a front-runner... I've never encountered anyone who prefers her or even mentions her in passing, and I've been following plenty of Dem / Left voices on social media throughout the process to keep up. She's basically non-existent yet somehow in the top group.
 
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It is truly bizarre to hear Klobuchar as a front-runner... I've never encountered anyone who prefers her or even mentions her in passing, and I've been following plenty of Dem / Left voices on social media throughout the process to keep up. She's basically non-existent yet somehow in the top group.
I think she is kept in the top group to keep disruptive candidates out of the picture. I don't trust any of these polls, or the integrity of the pollsters conducting them.
 

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I think she is kept in the top group to keep disruptive candidates out of the picture. I don't trust any of these polls, or the integrity of the pollsters conducting them.
Well, they rely on people answering their phone.

Who the fuck answers their phone when a number they don't recognize is calling? No one I'd trust, that's for damn sure.
 
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I think she is kept in the top group to keep disruptive candidates out of the picture. I don't trust any of these polls, or the integrity of the pollsters conducting them.
No.

Amy is a mystery, she is had more donors and more interested Superdelegates than any candidate below Kamala who is in 5th place, she raised more money than Kamala apparently (at least recently), and was one f the first to qualify for the December debate.

Either there's a very very silent majority that likes her or there's some sabotage going on. She is almost never covered, only very niche local news seems to cover her. She barely had any trending online or in social media, yet she's doing better than 2/3rds of the candidates? In money and in donor interest?
 

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Tulsi is your only choice you dummies. Trump will mop the floor with these scrubs you want to push.
I actually feel bad for the Democrats :(

They have another four years of waking up depressed... waking up and yelling at the sky while on their knees...and waking up contemplating leaving the country.

L O S E R S
 
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I actually feel bad for the Democrats :(

They have another four years of waking up depressed... waking up and yelling at the sky while on their knees...and waking up contemplating leaving the country.

L O S E R S
That's harsh, but true. If this was truly a democratic process the DNC and their lackeys in the media wouldn't be going out of their way to shape the outcome of the primaries.

A common phrase/complaint I've seen thrown at Republican voters from their counterparts was that they were/are voting against their best interests, but as I see it there seems to be a lot more of that happening on the Democrat side. How does someone complain about Trump being some sort of fascist while supporting what the Dems have been doing these last four years? The party crying about election integrity, diversity and a constitutional crisis for years now is the same one promising to change the constitution as soon as they get back in the White House.
 
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Yang and Tulsi are both 3 of 4 polls they're so close to making it but the "fix" is in and wouldn't be surprised if "dnc approved" polls suddenly were to dry up.

However Tom Steyer somehow has 4 of 4 polls and just needs the easier 200k donors to qualify which i'm sure a billionaire can easily buy.
 
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Yang and Tulsi are both 3 of 4 polls they're so close to making it but the "fix" is in and wouldn't be surprised if "dnc approved" polls suddenly were to dry up.

However Tom Steyer somehow has 4 of 4 polls and just needs the easier 200k donors to qualify which i'm sure a billionaire can easily buy.
If that were true you'd think Bloomberg would have done it. Might not be as easy as you think there might be some snag in the rules.
 

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What in the absolute fuck??!!!

2020 is going to be the battle of the babbling idiots

This is the best you got??!!

 
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at this point it seems they are just trying to box out gabbard and hope biden stays afloat long enough to fade bernie

reasonably certain the worst nightmare scenario for the 'establishment' is bernie v. trump or gabbard v. trump

personal opinion is trump beats both handidly unless the economy tanks, gabbard gets closest but i think parts of the pentagon hate her more than they do bernie
 
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I cant wait to see trump debate one of em and mop the floor with em
They'd have to be asleep, Trump is horrible when it comes to debate. He only has one tactic: Ignore the questions and keep lying until its over. What was the figure from the debates leading up to the previous election? Oh yeah, Trump lied on average once every 12 seconds. Every 12 seconds, lol.

This time around instead of lock her up and emails it'll be lock him up and Ukraine, count on it.
 
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They'd have to be asleep, Trump is horrible when it comes to debate. He only has one tactic: Ignore the questions and keep lying until its over. What was the figure from the debates leading up to the previous election? Oh yeah, Trump lied on average once every 12 seconds. Every 12 seconds, lol.

This time around instead of lock her up and emails it'll be lock him up and Ukraine, count on it.
Hillary lied at those debates a lot so not sure what you're talking about acting like she was honest during the debates. Also considering the highlights even my left-wing media he got in some good hits on her in the debates, Hillarys stubbornness and Ego had her dance around the Emails, Benghazi and others too long and that gave her a negative image once the debates ended because she wouldn't be straight forward until right neat the election.

Ukraine also doesn't have much american interest right now, they try to make the polls seem like it but interest on the ground is dropping like flies, and the evidence is poor. Unlike the emails when we had INDISPUTABLE PROOF of her lying and having a server in her bathroom, PROOF the emails were deleted and PROOF a bunch of her blackberrys were destroyed among other evidence.
 

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I cant wait to see trump debate one of em and mop the floor with em

Doesn’t matter which one.

They’ll all look like fools on any stage with Trump

If I’m wrong and they make Trump look foolish, every post who disagrees with me today gets $25 via PayPal

(Which means you’ll get $0.00)
Trump tends to brand opponents as stupid, low-energy, little, or corrupt. He'd have a field day with Biden or Warren. Sanders I'm not sure about, but I think he'd brand him as well as calling him a socialist, which would probably still sink him in enough states. Buttigieg is a gay man with "Butt" in his name - the jokes nearly write themselves.

I'm not so sure he could successfully brand Tulsi; she has shown an ability to devastate people in the debates, has veteran credentials, and seems to have the mental toughness to stand up to him. However, she would have much of the left opposing her and they've worked to brand her as an Assad apologist or Russian asset already, reinforcing whatever Trump tries to hit her with.

Yang would also be a tough one. Trump would be insane to try to brand him as dumb or challenge him on facts. I think he'd go with "Little Andy" - and Yang would have to counter that, hard. He was a champion debater, and has said in podcasts that he had to adjust because the "Democratic Debates" are not actually debates. I think he'd be formidable 1 on 1.
 

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I honestly couldnt pick Klobuchar out of a line-up.
Shes one of those people I remember is running when I see the debates.

How is she still around?
 

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So a bunch of rich white people telling us how rich white people are evil?
I’ll pass on this one.
 
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So a bunch of rich white people telling us how rich white people are evil?
I’ll pass on this one.
It's hella ironic. SJW's cry so much about diversity but point the mirror at themselves and they're anything but.

It's the same shit in Canada. We just had an election where the Far-Left Party lead by an Indian guy actually LOST votes to the White guy who wears blackface.

I can't keep up with the insanity anymore.
 
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Amy Klobuchar making the thresholds already screams that this entire thing is rigged. Nobody even knows who the fuck she is, and even if they do they dont like her.

Where are the real journalists who could look into this obvious bullshit and call it out? Who the hell are her donors? What twisted ass polling methods are they using where she gets 6% of anything?? It's transparent as fuck. I want 2 people here to tell me they are honestly an Amy Klobuchar supporter, or even know of anyone who is. I'm waiting.

Fuck Klobuchar and the DNC.

Oh and bye Kamala you piece of shit.
 
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It is truly bizarre to hear Klobuchar as a front-runner... I've never encountered anyone who prefers her or even mentions her in passing, and I've been following plenty of Dem / Left voices on social media throughout the process to keep up. She's basically non-existent yet somehow in the top group.
It's because she isn't as extreme as the others. What some people don't realize is not everyone thinks the same. Loud internet extreme Liberals think everyone loves Bernie. Some people feel safe with Biden. Some think both are too old. Some people just want anyone who isn't Trump. Some people want more of a centrist. Amy's debate performance has been fairly solid as a Democrat.
 

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DNC lady can't even say Tulsi's last name properly while smearing the shit out of her. How can anyone trust these people and their rigged polls?

 

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Man, what's happening to Yang and Tulsi is terrible. They're two of my top choices. Who the hell is Kloubacher and how does she keep making it? And kamala Harris stuck around so long even though she is basically everything minorities hate in a DA.
 
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DNC lady can't even say Tulsi's last name properly while smearing the shit out of her. How can anyone trust these people and their rigged polls?

What is this crap? Is this some guy's show, doing play by play for a nothing youtube video?

I like Tulsi btw hope she stays in
 
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