Do bureaucrats deserve more credit?

[dragonfart28]

Not something I would normally think, but this piece is a reminder why of it's important to have a robust bureaucracy.

Ms. Hill’s testimony was widely hailed as an example of a public servant standing up for the public interest in the face of wrongdoing. And it indeed fell on the right side of a line that all public servants must walk.

There’s an important difference between the bureaucrat who publicly voices a personal disagreement with a government policy and one who has discovered something illegal or unethical, and blows the whistle.

The former is almost always wrong. Public servants must implement an administration’s policies without bias. They are unelected; they have no democratic authority to try to usurp the wishes of the elected.

In 2015, after Prime Minister Justin Trudeau won his first election, there was a justified outcry when civil servants in the Global Affairs department inappropriately cheered his victory when he visited their offices. Canadian bureaucrats aren’t prohibited from voting, but they have to maintain the appearance of impartiality in public and can never let personal political beliefs infect their work.

But even though the systems are different, the principle is universal: Democracy depends on bureaucrats who are professionally neutral and whose overriding allegiance is not to a political party but to the rule of law.

Globe editorial: Donald Trump tried to cross an ethical line. A bureaucrat stopped him - The Globe and Mail

 

[matt404au]

Yeah definitely. The biggest problem in the world today is a lack of bureaucracy.

 

[Schrödinger's cat]

Does dragonfart28 deserve more credit?

 

[autoduelist]

dragonfart.

 

[sahlberg]

There are no problems in society that can not be solved by additional layers of bureaucracy and higher taxes.
That is why countries with higher levels of bureaucracy are always much more successful!

 

[dragonfart28]

There are no problems in society that can not be solved by additional layers of bureaucracy and higher taxes.
That is why countries with higher levels of bureaucracy are always much more successful!

It seems that way.

All the ones that make cuts to public service run into problems.

 

[DunDunDunpachi]

OP read the bureaucrat's story in Notes From Underground and thought "Wow! This guy has it together. I've never been so impressed with bureaucrats until now"

 

[EviLore]

Oh, you.

 

[Torrent of Pork]

Beurocracy is a necessary evil that must exist for society to function above the level of tribal hunter-gatherer units, but we don't sing the praises of all the cillia in our colon that process the shit through our system either.

 

[oagboghi2]

It seems that way.

All the ones that make cuts to public service run into problems.

Have you ever thought of living in North Korea? Seems like you would love it there.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Honk honk, motherhonkers!

 

[Off Duty Ninja]

 

[Ornlu]

I, too, think that increasing the number of unelected, unremovable, unaccountable people working within the government at my expense is a good thing.

 

[dragonfart28]

I, too, think that increasing the number of unelected, unremovable, unaccountable people working within the government at my expense is a good thing.

The electoral college and FPTP are prime examples.

 

[Cybrwzrd]

Burrow rats (I hate spelling the word, and this one works better anyways) are one level below HR folks in the “Cybrwzrd hierarchy of life worth”

It’s a theory on how much the world loses in general utility should one die.

Which goes as such in descending order of usefulness.

1 - Doers
2- Teachers
3- HR goons
4- Burrow rats
5- Lawyers

 

[dragonfart28]

Blue collared workers probably top that list.

Thanks goodness for insurance.

 

[infinitys_7th]

Burrow rats (I hate spelling the word, and this one works better anyways) are one level below HR folks in the “Cybrwzrd hierarchy of life worth”

It’s a theory on how much the world loses in general utility should one die.

Which goes as such in descending order of usefulness.

1 - Doers
2- Teachers
3- HR goons
4- Burrow rats
5- Lawyers

I think I would put "Teachers" first. The worst thing in the world is a badly trained Doer, whether they are technicians or scientists or engineers.

The latter three are basically the same, though, and parasitize the rest.

 

[Tesseract]

there is no impartiality in this world, and there never will be

 

[Ornlu]

The electoral college and FPTP are prime examples.

3 deep 5 me. What does First Past The Post voting vs. the Electoral College have to do with bureaucracy? Trying to say direct democracy is better or something?

 

[dragonfart28]

Direct democracy?

Fuck no, we can't trust normies.

 

[Super Mario]

Bureaucrats are not our problem as much as a fake sense of "Democracy" is. The country was far more stable when voting was more about keeping the country strong vs satisfying every victim.

 

[dragonfart28]

That's actually democracy influenced by culture.

 

[gunslikewhoa]

The electoral college and FPTP are prime examples.

 

[dragonfart28]

It's gerrymandering for the Republicans.

 

[Tesseract]

It's gerrymandering for the Republicans.

lawl, just call them poor trash and get it over with

 

[Ornlu]

How dayuh them small states get a say in how we do things roun heeah!

 

[ResurrectedContrarian]

Having spent my entire adult life in high education (first as a student / grad student, then employed for a decade), I can say that bureaucrats are most definitely the problem, not the solution, and their creep into all areas of life, work, and scholarship is a disaster.

 

[zeorhymer]

I'd love to have more red tape....says no one ever.

 

[dragonfart28]

I'd love to have more red tape....says no one ever.

Environmentalists would say that.