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Does anyone else think this is starting to look like a coup?

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We NEVER should have been in this situation in the first place. People who support this president's decisions like this just baffle me....His first response to civil unrest is literally THE highest escalation possible.

What? He literally said he would only send in troops if a Governor asks or if a city falls into chaos and the Governor fails. That is not escalation, that is common sense. Watch trumps speech. It is calm and rational, not escalation.
 

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What? He literally said he would only send in troops if a Governor asks or if a city falls into chaos and the Governor fails. That is not escalation, that is common sense. Watch trumps speech. It is calm and rational, not escalation.
So he's sending military to those who ask, and sending military to those who need it, at his own discretion. So basically, he's threatening to overrule the decision to deny military aid to governors. To those who he thinks need it.

That's clearly a threat to the Governors on the other side of party lines who are obviously going to disagree with his decision anyway. The military itself is an escalation but now we're taking away the autonomy of states to deal with their issues the way they see fit, and some places would much rather take a less forceful, heavy-handed approach to quelling a civil problem about police brutality by dropping armed troops into cities and threatening to kill them.
 
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more troops being withdrawn from DC now.

seems like if there is any potential coup it'll be when Trump attempts to give the military an unlawful order and they end up refusing.
 

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They tried and failed! The rioters and looters tired themselves out and lost their will.
 

cryptoadam

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They tried and failed! The rioters and looters tired themselves out and lost their will.
have they stopped?

The other thread kinda slowed down so not sure if the rioting stopped or if interest just dropped off.
 

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Twitter is the ultimate honeypot trap. I would go as far to say that Jack is just a figurehead that is the man standing in the center ring, but he doesn’t actually run the circus. Imagine if one day all of the sudden a lot of the main posters stirring things up just stop posting. They have been swept up and disappeared. Trump then addresses the nation with a speech stating how there has been an ongoing operation that has swept up a massive terrorist organization who used Twitter to operate.
Then, the media is provided with the ‘leadership’ details and how things were planned and carried out.
Their main goal would of course be the destabilization of the United States.
 

cryptoadam

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Supposed to be a giant protest (and possible riot) in DC tomorrow.
Heard about 1 million people.

Crazy that a month ago we couldn't go see our grandparents cuz we would murder them.

But ya this is just a giant anti-Trump protest at this point. And I bet they won't even protest against the DC leadership or mayor, just go straight to the WH.
 

cryptoadam

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Trump sends in the military

DNC declares themselve the real government

I mean isn't that pretty much what the US did with that Guiado go in Venezuale?

I can see them pulling that if Trump sends in the military anywhere. Just declare his government illegal and crown Pelosi.

They can push through a UN resolution and either take Iran/China/Russia alliance, or get some EU boot lickers to go a long with it.

I really think they are baiting him for the military and can move to finish their take over.

And also Chauvin is innocent this was a Covington/Juicy Fruit operation but this time it worked.
 

cryptoadam

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Via what means? That is an incredibly unlikely scenario.
Exactly what happened in Venuzuala. Guaido said he was the real leader, most of the western world agreed.

Media lies that military did something, what ever you want killed a reporter, killed a black guy, blew up a building, anything you want.

They say him and Pence are criminals and illegal so Pelosi is now the real president.

All that needs to happen is other countries agree.

FBI/CIA/Millitary will have to chose Trump or DNC not sure if they would stand by Trump for this coup to work.
 

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have they stopped?

The other thread kinda slowed down so not sure if the rioting stopped or if interest just dropped off.
Absolutely not

If anyone is getting tired it's the police. Probably why they're getting so belligerently violent despite the fact that the actual looting/rioting basically stopped within a few days of the protesting beginning.

Trump sends in the military

DNC declares themselve the real government

I mean isn't that pretty much what the US did with that Guiado go in Venezuale?

I can see them pulling that if Trump sends in the military anywhere. Just declare his government illegal and crown Pelosi.

They can push through a UN resolution and either take Iran/China/Russia alliance, or get some EU boot lickers to go a long with it.

I really think they are baiting him for the military and can move to finish their take over.

And also Chauvin is innocent this was a Covington/Juicy Fruit operation but this time it worked.
This is so backwards, nobody is trying to take anything over LOL.....The only one who wants the damn military to show up in the first place is Trump. Why would the DNC's "master coup plan" rely on nothing but Trump's own autonomous decision making???

Is this the kind of stuff right-wing media is feeding people?

And this is tone deaf to begin with -- China/Russia absolutely don't want the DNC in office, they'd much rather Trump.

The footage of Police manhandling peaceful crowds is being shared everywhere, and now that Trump is about to bring the military in, everyone is watching to see if this becomes another China situation. He's making their heavy-handed, police-state approach to government look normalized. As the USA we're supposed to be the shining example of democracy and freedom, not brute force and CERTAINLY not brute force with our own citizens on the homeland. And Trump trying to handle this as if he's Putin in Russia or Xi in China is such a GODSEND easy spin for them and their propaganda.

They're already starting with the "HOW CAN YOU JUDGE US WITH THIS GOING ON" rhetoric


Even if some crazy situation arised where the Military comes in and breaks chain of command, it's going to 100% be a situation Trump made for himself. He never had to go this route. He just wanted to.
 
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China/Russia absolutely don't want the DNC in office, they'd much rather Trump.
You're joking, right?

Do you really think Hillary or Biden would be imposing tariffs on Chinese goods? Do you think either of them would be trying to bring manufacturing back to the USA?

Commies want their own in office. They would absolutely favor a DNC candidate over Trump.

As for Russia, President Trump has been tougher on Russia than Obama ever was.

Both of these countries want to destabilize America, but ultimately they would rather deal with a DNC candidate than President Trump
 

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You're joking, right?

Do you really think Hillary or Biden would be imposing tariffs on Chinese goods? Do you think either of them would be trying to bring manufacturing back to the USA?

Commies want their own in office. They would absolutely favor a DNC candidate over Trump.

As for Russia, President Trump has been tougher on Russia than Obama ever was.

Both of these countries want to destabilize America, but ultimately they would rather deal with a DNC candidate than President Trump
Trump is "tough" on Russia but he not only allows them to illegally annex countries (with condemnation from literally the whole world) but also praises them for "Outsmarting Obama" to do it and invites them to the G8 in spite of it.

Trump starts a trade war with China (which doesn't really have an obvious winner ATM). Yet he also goes against his own advisors and completely rolls over on ZTE, a chinese telecommunications company that was literally found guilty of selling US technology and information to Iran and North Korea (and, naturally by association, Russia) and was banned from receiving US tech, in order to ensure his "AMAZING" trade deal with china would go through (as easing on them was a proposed term). He's also been known to praise them for Tiananmen Square, a crime against humanity so extreme that China's firewall doesn't even allow users to type it out in videogames.

My point is that he picks and chooses when to be "tough" and when to completely roll over and claim deep friendship with leaders like Putin and Jinping specifically, in ways he has literally never done with his own allies. When he wants something, he's nice. When he wants to look tough, or he can't get anything he wants from someone (Like his own allies), he turns on this "tough ruler" persona.
 
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It's called diplomacy.
Just to clarify here.

I'm not saying Trump isn't hard on Russia or China. NO president is able to go "easy" on Russia or China.

What i'm saying though is that Trump specifically is willing to compromise and roll over on key aspects of Russia/China's operations that DNC presidents would NEVER roll over on off principle alone.

A DNC president will never side with Russia after catching them dead to rights interfering with our elections after Putin just says "Nah wasn't us". Where was all that "TOUGHNESS" then, a leader lies to your face and you just bend over, accept his lie, and let it walk? Right.

A DNC president will never "be okay" with crimes against humanity (SJWs, remember?).

A DNC president will NOT rollback changes to the FCC or net neutrality (consumer-interest policies that Trump actively fights against) or rulings against Chinese companies that repeatedly have been proven to sell technology to Iran/North Korea.


In this sense, Trump will ALWAYS be preferable to a democratic president because his principles are less rigid as long as he's able to get what he wants.

And notice i'm not saying "GOP President", because aside from the FCC shit, I highly doubt other right-wing presidents would roll over on the same issues Trump has. This is a specific Trump issue.


It's not diplomacy. Trump consistently goes against his own national security / foreign policy / intelligence advisors to make his dumbfuck decisions by himself. We've seen this happen over and over and over again.

it's just Trump consistently putting himself above everything at all costs, and then trying to spin it as some smart decision because he knows his bubble base will eat it up.


When even Fox News is forced to condemn some of Trump's actions, you KNOW it's getting bad. They will suck any dick as long as its red.
 
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Just to clarify here.

I'm not saying Trump isn't hard on Russia or China. NO president is able to go "easy" on Russia or China.

What i'm saying though is that Trump specifically is willing to compromise and roll over on key aspects of Russia/China's operations that DNC presidents would NEVER roll over on off principle alone.

A DNC president will never side with Russia after catching them dead to rights interfering with our elections after Putin just says "Nah wasn't us". Where was all that "TOUGHNESS" then, a leader lies to your face and you just bend over, accept his lie, and let it walk? Right.

A DNC president will never "be okay" with crimes against humanity (SJWs, remember?).

A DNC president will NOT rollback changes to the FCC or net neutrality (consumer-interest policies that Trump actively fights against) or rulings against Chinese companies that repeatedly have been proven to sell technology to Iran/North Korea.


In this sense, Trump will ALWAYS be preferable to a democratic president because his principles are less rigid as long as he's able to get what he wants.

And notice i'm not saying "GOP President", because aside from the FCC shit, I highly doubt other right-wing presidents would roll over on the same issues Trump has. This is a specific Trump issue.


It's not diplomacy. Trump consistently goes against his own national security / foreign policy / intelligence advisors to make his dumbfuck decisions by himself. We've seen this happen over and over and over again.

it's just Trump consistently putting himself above everything at all costs, and then trying to spin it as some smart decision because he knows his bubble base will eat it up.


When even Fox News is forced to condemn some of Trump's actions, you KNOW it's getting bad. They will suck any dick as long as its red.
Sounds like fan fiction. Biden made a lot of money putting China and his son above American interest. Biden was the Vice President from 2008 to 2016. He has a bad record with foreign policy.

Trump has less than 4 years of policy behind him and his own appointees were back stabbing him for 2 of them. He has been under the microscope for 3 solid years and nothing he does good goes rewarded by the beneficiaries.

His cabinet has been Infected by Neocons because no one defended him before Barr. That is directly caused by the neoliberal coup that happened right before our eyes.

You don’t have to like Trump to see he’s on an island. He is a narcissistic fuck but you can always bet on his type to do as much as he can to look like a Star. He may not be likable but that doesn’t mean the people of the US can Daydream up lies and fantasies and pretend he is the worst thing since Hitler. We have people on the street who think just that.
 

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Sounds like fan fiction. Biden made a lot of money putting China and his son above American interest. Biden was the Vice President from 2008 to 2016. He has a bad record with foreign policy.

Trump has less than 4 years of policy behind him and his own appointees were back stabbing him for 2 of them. He has been under the microscope for 3 solid years and nothing he does good goes rewarded by the beneficiaries.

His cabinet has been Infected by Neocons because no one defended him before Barr. That is directly caused by the neoliberal coup that happened right before our eyes.

You don’t have to like Trump to see he’s on an island. He is a narcissistic fuck but you can always bet on his type to do as much as he can to look like a Star. He may not be likable but that doesn’t mean the people of the US can Daydream up lies and fantasies and pretend he is the worst thing since Hitler. We have people on the street who think just that.
Have you ever stopped to wonder why people made to work for him disdain him so much????????????

Just look at his actions, dude. It's not like Trump is an Opaque man. Like you've said, he's a narcissistic fuck. The problem is that Trump cares more about himself than he does about actually being president.

And it's not like this is some secret, it's blatantly obvious, he doesn't even try to hide it. People can't work with Trump because he's not looking for people to work with him or advise him. He's looking for people to do what he wants, say "yes" to his decisions, and give no dissent to his "infinite wisdom". Everyone who makes him feel like he's making the wrong choice is suddenly his mortal enemy, and he makes sure everyone on Twitter knows.


There is no "NEOLIBERAL COUP", this is just the culmination of Trump making really stupid fucking decisions and being as divisive as humanly possible for 4 years in a row.

If he was a smarter man, if he actually came from a background of proper politics, he would have learned how to do all his grimy corrupt bullshit under the covers like everyone else who sits in the oval office. But that's not who he is, he doesn't know how to actually control people. Instead he just aims for the lowest common denominator as his base, and the rest is just lies and xenophobia and fear.


Case in point: Was Biden doing grimy shit in Ukraine?

Who knows, possibly, but the point is that even if he was, Hunter Biden wasn't in the spotlight until Trump's BLATANTLY fucking stupid screw-ups got caught and everyone had to scramble out of the way. And instead of trying to pick up the pieces like a smart man, what does he do? Actively attacks everyone involved and escalate it to the point where it's impossible to sweep under the rug anymore because too many people are involved and his twitter paper trail is a mile long.

And now, this moron is actively spouting ANTIFA conspiracy theories in response to police nearly killing a 75 year old man....why? Because, again, his core base is the lowest common denominator. And that's the kind of stupid shit that Fox News watching, Talk Radio listening crazy people will eat up without question.



Of COURSE, it was an ANTIFA conspiracy from the extreme-left sleeper cell DEEP STATE that brainwashed civilians to see police to nearly kill an old man on video during a peaceful protest. They will stop at nothing to destroy me!

everyone is stupid in this country
 
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cryptoadam

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Kinda feels like the coup won.

BLM is pretty much the most powerful political force in America right now. They have storm troopers on the street and anyone who defends themselves gets arrested by their Soros paid black DA's.

The MSM is basically BLM propaganda, as are all corporations, and social media.

How much you want to bet BLM will be behind some election fuckery, either preventing white people from voting, rioting at voting stations, or claiming racism and voting suppression.
 
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Kinda feels like the coup won.

BLM is pretty much the most powerful political force in America right now. They have storm troopers on the street and anyone who defends themselves gets arrested by their Soros paid black DA's.

The MSM is basically BLM propaganda, as are all corporations, and social media.

How much you want to bet BLM will be behind some election fuckery, either preventing white people from voting, rioting at voting stations, or claiming racism and voting suppression.
I got a little bit of hope from Trump's speech, but it definitely feels like that.
 
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