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[Mister Apoc]

would you say GOW has surpassed Bloodborne in combat, my friend and I were talking about it and he thinks the new GOW surpasses Bloodborne (and any souls game) in combat depth, systems etc.

 

[AeonGaidenRaiden]

Wow Im surprised this poll isn't by Afro Republican.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Borh.

 

[Musky_Cheese]

Of course it does. It’s GotG after all

 

[Hinedorf]

Can you imagine how much easier Bloodborne would be with a throwable homing-axe with infinite usage...... heck I might actually be able to finish Bloodborne!

 

[JohnnyFootball]

Hell no. The combat in God of War is better than people give it credit for, but From Software is so far ahead of everybody else.

 

[Nymphae]

I prefer the weapons in BB, but throwing the axe had a nice feel to it. GoW might have more systems at play, but I found myself much more engaged with Bloodborne's combat. Also it has great bosses.

 

[Mister Apoc]

people have said there is more depth to GOW's system

 

[Danjin44]

I highly enjoyed GOW and to me it has great combat system for western game but my answer is no. The boss fights and the actual combat in Bloodborne is much more superior in my eyes.

people have said there is more depth to GOW's system

Compare to previous games absolutely. But compare to games like Bayonetta and DMC, hell no.

 

[zwiggelbig]

system is better in gow. But when it comes to fun, I had more fun in bloodborne

 

[Northeastmonk]

Both games are a homage to their predecessors. Its hard to compare the two. You can't block in Bloodborne, but you have a shield in God of War. Its like X's and O's. Bloodborne was an alternative to Dark Souls, which had shields. You're more or less a glass cannon in Bloodborne. Is it western philosophy that we have to be able to block?

I'd go with Bloodborne. I enjoyed God of War, but I thought it lacked extra bosses. The use of the troll was far too noticeable, even in areas where you felt like there could have been another type of boss. I also thought the last part of the game in Bloodborne was a lot more difficult. God of War did a great job, but the satisfaction will come with the sequel IMO.

 

[Cert.in.Death]

Both of the RPG systems have issues, but mechanically I prefer BB primarily because its bosses are designed to push a player’s mastery of the mechanics more than GOW. But GOW clearly has far more going on and more intricacy, it’s just not critical for a player to explore them in order to progress.

 

[DunDunDunpachi]

Anyone voting for GoW:

 

[MiguelItUp]

In my opinion, GoW does, but it's also a completely different kind of action game.

 

[Mister Apoc]

gow might lack bosses, but arn't the valkyries (especially the queen) as tough as any bloodborne boss?

 

[RedVIper]

The combat in GoW is way too easy, the "Give me god of war" difficulty just buffs enemy health to a stupid degree until they become axe sponges, bloodborne manages to be difficult even tough enemies mostly die in a few hits, this shows some design flaws on GoW.
The "feel" of the combat is way worse aswell, the weapons don't feel nearly as satisfying.
Enemy design is super lackluster, both regular enemies and bosses.
In GoW you can unlock new moves which mix things up a bit, on the other hand bloodborne has much more variety in weapons and spells.
The over the shoulder one shot camera might be a neat idea (Even if I hate it, it's impressive when you do it in movies, but games are all rendered anyway so it's not that hard), anyway, it hurts combat, since you can't see shit of whats happening around you, instead you get an indicator when an attack is coming your way, and it suffers from "camera man died" syndrome.

I think GoW is pretty decent, but not nearly as polished as BB or DS, and that's okay, combat is a much bigger focus in those games.

 

[VertigoOA]

I love both games but Bloodborne is still far superior.

 

[Fake]

Gow have a better combat, but keep in mind GoW is more RPG than Bloodborne. So they're different games to be compare.
Saying GoW is more easy than Bloodborne and indeed is, but because RPG mechanics like peak, passive, magics, buffs, etc...

 

[Samus009]

I think Bloodborne ruined most others in terms of combat for me anyways. I wanted to like the Witcher 3 but after coming off BB it felt so clunky

 

[Samus009]

Gow have a better combat, but keep in mind GoW is more RPG than Bloodborne. So they're different games to be compare.

Not sure I see how it's more RPG but I'm open to hear why you fell that way

 

[megatronium]

I played GoW and wanted to continue playing until I got to the first boss who seemed to be tough. I haven't gone back but want to.

I got to the first enemy in Bloodborne and immediately died. I don't want to go back to that game but everyone's praise makes me think I'm missing out. Why am I not floored by it like everyone else?

 

[Fake]

Not sure I see how it's more RPG but I'm open to hear why you fell that way

Read my edit post. God of War have peaks, equips with slot for passives, peaks, increase your defense REALLY make difference unlike Bloodborne, sustain, magic really does work. RPG have progressive system and because that GoW with time become more easy unlike Bloodborne. Thats why even playing GoW with NG+ in 'give me god of war' difficult still looks easy. All your progressive equips/forge/status really make difference.
Bloodborne is my goat no doubt, but because is my first 'souls' games.

 

[Blood Borne]

I seldom get triggered but this thread triggered me. You can only compare games like Ninja Gaiden, Devil May Cry or Metal Gear Revengeance to Bloodborne not games like God of War. This is blasphemy.

 

[CAPSOL]

I was just talking about how GoW feels like a super clunky Soulsborne game. I hope the next GoW tightens up the controls and adds better bosses/enemy encounters....

 

[DeepEnigma]

I seldom get triggered but this thread triggered me. You can only compare games like Ninja Gaiden, Devil May Cry or Metal Gear Revengeance to Bloodborne not games like God of War. This is blasphemy.

Welcome to a Mister Apoc thread

 

[Blood Borne]

Gow have a better combat, but keep in mind GoW is more RPG than Bloodborne. So they're different games to be compare.
Saying GoW is more easy than Bloodborne and indeed is, but because RPG mechanics like peak, passive, magics, buffs, etc...

Please elaborate. I beg of you

 

[Alfen Dave]

Does Bloodborne plays liek the Dark Souls series?

I<ve played Dark Souls (first game) and the controls are clunky, animations are rigid, mechanics are stiff and overall combat is a mess...Bloodborne seems like the exact same...

 

[Fake]

Please elaborate. I beg of you

Previous post sir. I forgot to add 'IMO'.

 

[RedVIper]

Does Bloodborne plays liek the Dark Souls series?

I<ve played Dark Souls (first game) and the controls are clunky, animations are rigid, mechanics are stiff and overall combat is a mess...Bloodborne seems like the exact same...

Bloodborne is a lot faster and smoother than the first darksouls, same for Darksouls 3. The core principles are pretty much the same, so if there's nothing you liked about it you probably won't enjoy the sequels either.

 

[CAPSOL]

Does Bloodborne plays liek the Dark Souls series?

I<ve played Dark Souls (first game) and the controls are clunky, animations are rigid, mechanics are stiff and overall combat is a mess...Bloodborne seems like the exact same...

not even close. Bloodborne and DS's controls are amazing. IF you know what you are doing that is..........

 

[JohnnyFootball]

I will say that I had a much harder time fighting the Valkyrie than any single From Software boss. That fight had a very From feel

 

[TacosNSalsa]

I didn't get to in-depth with the GoW combat system but there is something so incredibly satisfying about hitting a full transformation combo with the Burial Blade scythe ..I haven't had something out a smile on my face like that since ..so Bloodborne for me

 

[zenspider]

God of War's combat isn't fit to grease Bloodborne's Switch Axe.

 

[INC]

I'd say GoW is more accessible for people like me

I've tried and tried to love Bloodborne, I'm just awful at it

In GoW I can still look like a badass

 

[Mr. Tobias Rieper]

 

[Werewolf Jones]

Not done with GoW, only a few hours in and I feel there is more to open up to me yet so I can't pass full judgement. But I will say without a doubt the combat is actually VERY good compared to the previous titles in the series.

Bloodborne for now is p much the apex of none CURAYZEE games.

 

[Bryank75]

As I've said in many other threads, GOW has very layered combat...
Bloodborne combat has very fast encounters, it doesn't require a lot of moves, just good timing of dodges and keeping your play "safe". I do love the feeling of the combat.

GOW has long combat encounters, where you need combos and take on multiple enemies at once. You need to consider cool downs, spartan rage. counters and boiiii.

Anyway, IMO the combat systems are way more advanced and varied in GOW but Bloodborne requires skill and timing despite it only really having a few core moves. The feeling of overall combat in BB is better... it gives a lot of feedback.

 

[Great Hair]

Bloodborne is a religion! Bloodborne is our new God! I prefer old school GoW over the old fart Kratos and his Prostata issues ...

Bloodborne is the best exclusive of the past 20 and future 20 years. Period. Gameplay, Lore, Theme, Ambiance, content, music ... give me Bloodborne 4K60HDR Dolby Vision with 4xSSAA (pristine IQ) with destructible environments.

 

[bumleforce]

Blood boune is very basic. Dodge hit. Repeat. God of war is waaaaaay more than that

 

[Ogbert]

I<ve played Dark Souls (first game) and the controls are clunky, animations are rigid, mechanics are stiff and overall combat is a mess...Bloodborne seems like the exact same...

BB is a totally different creature. To be honest, it's almost closer to Devil May Cry than the original Dark Souls. It's faster, more visceral, with an emphasis on parrying and dodge mechanics. I actually far prefer DS with it's slower pace and far greater variety.

Also, yes, BB's frame pacing still blows. But do yourself a favour and pick up DS remastered instead, and enjoy 60fps glory.

 

[The Skull]

Bloodborne is the best exclusive of the past 20 and future 20 years.

 

[Musky_Cheese]

Please keep in mind that one of our Gafessions was a member of this site pretending to love Bloodborne but never playing it.

All of you are now suspect.

 

[ZehDon]

Bloodborne is a more deliberate combat experience, which gets the nod from me. Hacking and slashing aimlessly is going to end badly for you. God of War, on the other hand, is closer to an arcade experience; some attacks track the player to the enemy, the hit boxes can be a little inconsistent at times, etc. Crank up the difficulty, and these seems start to show. God of War's is good, very good even, but it's got different goals. Bloodborne's combat was designed to make sure that every failure is a result of bad decisions by the player. God of War's was designed to make the player feel powerful as often as possible.

 

[DunDunDunpachi]

Bloodborne's simplicity is its strength. It's a fun game to master because there's a wide disparity in which weapons are easy and which aren't. But if you master the game, you can make less-viable builds like Wheel or Stake Driver perfectly functional, and as a result extend your replayability.

When someone says "Bloodborne is just dodge and hit", they're right, but that should be seen as a compliment. It is just dodge and hit. The sparse RPG mechanics never get in the way of the combat itself. Your reflexes and ingenuity can win the day in spite of the equipment you're using. Can the same be said for God of War? Can you play a "minimum level, naked Kratos" and still progress through the game in an entertaining fashion? Or are there things you're forced to use in the combat, things that you can't avoid in the skilltree?

 

[GenericUser]

As much as I love gow, but bloodbornes' combat system is miles ahead. God of war has other qualities though.

 

[Fake]

Please keep in mind that one of our Gafessions was a member of this site pretending to love Bloodborne but never playing it.

All of you are now suspect.

Damn. Now I super suspect.

 

[DunDunDunpachi]

Damn. Now I super suspect.

When ~Fake suspects a fake, you know something is up.

 

[ruvikx]

No. God of War is a lot, lot easier. Even in "give me a challenge" difficulty, once the lake of nine opens up & side quests become available (favours), finding better gear & transforming Atreus into a little invincible tiger tank who unleashes hell on all foes with both arrow types is just too easy. Bloodborne meanwhile has a constant oppressive theme & gameplay in which I could never anticipate what I'd encounter, or how hard it would be, or how I'd even be required to fight it/them.

God of War has repetitive enemy types with slight variations & Atreus, i.e. far easier. But, I can definitely see a Bloodborne/Dark Souls inspiration in the development of God of War (the Traveler boss fights are almost an homage to the Souls games). Kudos to Santa Monica for paying attention to the best of the genre, but their game aims for a wider appeal & tones down the difficulty a lot.

 

[Codes 208]

Bloodborne and it’s not even close. BB is the perfection of the soulsborne combat system from From soft.

Not to say GoW’s is horrible but frankly I didn’t even consider GoW4’s combat the best of the franchise let alone equal to this gen’s arguably best action title.

I’ll take gow4 over ds2:sotfs and *maybe* ds3 though.

 

[danielberg]

Yes God of war has actually better combat than bloodborne or any of the souls games for that matter imo but only when you actually try and get better at it most people dont they just play it like your average movie tier game on middle difficulty and that is ok too, both games are good and the combat is too different to compare to in any real way, souls is deliberate with less fancy combos etc.