News Donald Trump Impeached for a Second Time

[O-N-E]

Truth is, considering the current base, Trump is the best chance for a Repub President in 2024 as long as his health is alright. He changed the entire playing field. Finding someone who can carry the torch might take a while longer.

He can restrategize, and energize his base to vote like they've never voted before. All the blatant silencing is not going unmissed.

2024 Campaign Slogan -

"FINISH THE WALL"

FTW

 

[BaneIsPain]

Wake up, Samurai Trump. We have a city to burn.
In all seriousness, I feel a little bad everything going against him.

 

[TheContact]

i heard from a republican house member opposing the impeachment that the senate vote wouldn't take place until jan 20 @1pm. would this be biden's senate or trump's? and i think mcconnell can expedite the vote. with his influence, they might get a conviction out of him even if it's just symbolic of the republican party officially condemning trump's actions and moving on from him

 

[Ornlu]

Ok so when do they do AOC, Nancy and all the others that incited the BLAMTIFA riots leading up to the death of an innocent man in Portland?

In hindsight, storming the Capitoll was very convenient for Democrats.

How DARE you say such things?!?!?!?

 

[Halo is Dead]

While I don't disagree with the verdict this really means nothing if it's not passed by the senate. The whole impeached twice thing dose not mean much if it is not followed through all the way.

 

[sw0mp_d0nk3y]

i heard from a republican house member opposing the impeachment that the senate vote wouldn't take place until jan 20 @1pm. would this be biden's senate or trump's? and i think mcconnell can expedite the vote. with his influence, they might get a conviction out of him even if it's just symbolic of the republican party officially condemning trump's actions and moving on from him

That's when it switches. Noon. Although I doubt anything will happen quite that quickly.

 

[Maiden Voyage]

Source? I thought he needs to be convicted.

I was misinformed. I thought McConnell wanted this to prevent Trump from running, but according to NYT he does need Senate conviction to be barred:

The House, with some G.O.P. support, impeaches Trump for ‘incitement of insurrection,’ setting up a Senate trial.

www.nytimes.com

I'll modify my original post accordingly.

 

[eKongDiddy]

Oof, he’s now been impeachment more times than he’s been elected.

 

[Yoboman]

Donald Trump is a bad man

 

[cryptoadam]

How about you, or anyone else, provide proof that they incited violence - as opposed to protest? Memes from Facebook don’t count. AOC’s a twat, but I’ve seen nothing to suggest she actively invited people to riot.

So where is the evidence Trump incited violence?

We have his transcript posted here we see what he said, called for peaceful protesting. Heck the timeline even shows breaking into the capitol started before his speech even ended.

If Trump can get impeached for political speech then so can the others. And if its lies that are you concern, while they lied plenty about BLM and everything else.

AOC literally told people to get radicalized. Nancy said I don't understand why their aren't uprising all over. Kamala said its not going to stop . Pressly said that people should be out on the streets. Then they all marched in these "protests". Actually marching arm and arm with rioters sounds like a gold seal of approval to me no?

 

[Stouffers]

When is the Senate Trial?

 

[cryptoadam]

And BTW I don't think Trump should run again in 2024 when he will be 78 years old.

 

[Maiden Voyage]

When is the Senate Trial?

Most likely 19th or beyond.

 

[Tesseract]

And BTW I don't think Trump should run again in 2024 when he will be 78 years old.

aye, 4 years is probably enough

 

[TheContact]

And BTW I don't think Trump should run again in 2024 when he will be 78 years old.

i think he knew this too. there probably wouldn't have been a 2024 trump, but now there's zero chance of that happening.

 

[spandexmonkey]

Highlights from the show:

 

[Petey-o]

 

[Yui's Empire]

The most impeachments! Best president!

 

[Raven117]

It will be very interesting to see what the Senate does. They only need a majority to disqualify him, but the question is whether they can try him at all. (I think they can, even after he leaves office).

 

[cryptoadam]

i think he knew this too. there probably wouldn't have been a 2024 trump, but now there's zero chance of that happening.

Are we even sure the guy would still be alive by then? Not like he is Mr Healthy.

Anyways its more like Don/Ivanka/Baron that the DNC is probably worried about.

 

[Stefan.North]

not really. democrats already had biden and the senate. you could argue it helps the republican party because it allows a lot of them a great opportunity to bail while wiping their hands from the past 4 years. trump destroyed the republican party. it's splintered like the democrats are now

It did make a good excuse for censoring him and impeaching him 2nd time making him unable to run again.

And deplatforming of Parler, purge against conservatives (bannings of 70k people on Twitter), now they are attacking Cruz and Howley and debating ending electoral colledge. It is convenient.

 

[SF Kosmo]

Giuliani has his hand down his pants again, thinking about how THIS time he'll get to be the one to argue Trump's case on the Senate floor.

I hope they go for a real trial this time. While I think there is some pressure to fast track this, I think the case is gonna be a lot stronger if they can piece together some real evidence, even circumstantial, of his intent or expectation.

The arguments here are going to be predictable, his defenders will argue that it's protected speech, that it doesn't meet the criminal bar for incitement (these things are probably true), that presidents are allowed to do crimes as long as they're the president when they do them.

But I think it's fairly obvious to everyone that at best Trump behaved recklessly without regard for the safety of his colleagues, and that he pulled this stunt as a deliberate effort to disrupt a constitutional process in the hopes of disrupting the government's ability to function. It's a clear violation of his oath of office and disqualifying in every way. A "high crime" if ever there was one.

As for the outcome, I really think it's still anyone's game, but even that is really saying something. The fact that conviction appears to be truly on the table this time is quite the last chapter plot twist.

 

[CrankyJay™]

ANOTHER ONE

 

[Bolivar687]

Love it, this will really bring the country together.

 

[FunkMiller]

So where is the evidence Trump incited violence?

We have his transcript posted here we see what he said, called for peaceful protesting. Heck the timeline even shows breaking into the capitol started before his speech even ended.

If Trump can get impeached for political speech then so can the others. And if its lies that are you concern, while they lied plenty about BLM and everything else.

AOC literally told people to get radicalized. Nancy said I don't understand why their aren't uprising all over. Kamala said its not going to stop . Pressly said that people should be out on the streets. Then they all marched in these "protests". Actually marching arm and arm with rioters sounds like a gold seal of approval to me no?

So no evidence that any of them incited people into violence.

 

[ArtemisClydeFrog]

If you're waiting for Democrats to hold each other to the same standards they hold everyone else, you'll be waiting a whlie.



COVID, too. Lots of worst-things-ever conveniently tipping scales in blue's favor.

Smokey, this is not 'Nam. This is NeoGAF, there are rules.

 

[cryptoadam]

So no evidence that any of them incited people into violence.

as much as there is that Trump incited.

Its the same evidence. Said inflamoatory things and lied a bunch.

Heck we can go back to the guy who shot Steve Scalia if we want and tie that to all the Russia hoax stuff too.

 

[MrMephistoX]

Maybe we’ll finally get to see his tax returns as a conviction prize in addition to barring him from office?

 

[cryptoadam]

I think the message is clear.

If you are not a Democrat never question an election.

If you are on the left its ok though. You can even have Stacey Abrams go around for 2 years claiming she is the real Governor and have the Dems at their own convention present her as the Governor of Georgia.

So basically if you are on the left you can incite and question the election till your hearts content. You can promote violent riots and take part in them.

 

[Mobile Suit Gooch]

What a goddamn waste of time and taxpayer money

They don't care about us mang.

 

[Maiden Voyage]

I think the message is clear.

If you are not a Democrat never question an election.

If you are on the left its ok though. You can even have Stacey Abrams go around for 2 years claiming she is the real Governor and have the Dems at their own convention present her as the Governor of Georgia.

So basically if you are on the left you can incite and question the election till your hearts content. You can promote violent riots and take part in them.

Politics must be real boring in Canada.

 

[cryptoadam]

Politics must be real boring in Canada.

Yup.

But its your future. We have Blackface man who has the media in his pocket and basically has made anyone not on the left a pariah.

 

[Maiden Voyage]

Yup.

But its your future. We have Blackface man who has the media in his pocket and basically has made anyone not on the left a pariah.

I can't wait for American politics to be boring again.

 

[ArtemisClydeFrog]

double post/wrong edit, ooops

 

[M1chl]

Can't stop winning shitty prices.

 

[HE1NZ]

Hated by the establishment so much they tried impeaching him twice. Trump should be proud by this.

 

[Az]

And of course he's ranting on twitter

 

[SF Kosmo]

So where is the evidence Trump incited violence?

We have his transcript posted here we see what he said, called for peaceful protesting. Heck the timeline even shows breaking into the capitol started before his speech even ended.

If Trump can get impeached for political speech then so can the others. And if its lies that are you concern, while they lied plenty about BLM and everything else.

AOC literally told people to get radicalized. Nancy said I don't understand why their aren't uprising all over. Kamala said its not going to stop . Pressly said that people should be out on the streets. Then they all marched in these "protests". Actually marching arm and arm with rioters sounds like a gold seal of approval to me no?

I think it's important to understand that impeachment is not a criminal trial, it's essentially a process check to be used for when an official uses his power in a way that violates his oath of office or the scope of his power.

I think it would be incredibly difficult to convict Trump in criminal court unless he explicitly suggested criminal activity, but impeachment has its own set of standards, and frankly, it's very clear that Trump hoped and expected the protests to disrupt Congress and prevent them from certifying the election, that it would get out of hand enough to buy time. This is evidenced by the fact that even after the breach he was calling members of Congress and asking them to stall for as long as they could. He had worked out some stupid plan where he needed to stall, and this was all part of it.

The idea of a president violently disrupting his colleagues carrying out their constitutional duty is clearly enough to meet that standard for impeachment. It's an obvious violation of his oath of office and certainly enough to disqualify him from holding office again.

The words he said at the speech are probably not enough to put him in jail, but that's not really the point.

 

[mcjmetroid]

So..bidens been inaugurated in what 2 weeks and all everyone is talking about is still Trump.

Is this the right direction to start the opposition's presidency?

Let it go.

 

[Dev1lXYZ]

This is like the time Mankind got slammed through the ring! OY! The only way they can top this one is by arresting the whole Trump family. I mean there is still time on the clock.....

 

[sw0mp_d0nk3y]

So..bidens been inaugurated in what 2 weeks and all everyone is talking about is still Trump.

Is this the right direction to start the opposition's presidency?

Let it go.

One week.

 

[ExpandKong]

Smokey, this is not 'Nam. This is NeoGAF, there are rules.

“mods haaaaaaalllp”

Then report me if you think I broke one. COVID is real and dangerous and a tragedy and anyone who thinks the Democrats would have cleaned up at the polls so handily without it is kidding themselves.

 

[showernota]

 

[Moonjt9]

The hypocrisy from the left is so infuriating.

 

[Kreen101]

Dat "bipartisan support"... So much for Trump "losing his grip" on the Republican Party. After all the hysteria and pearl-clutching, only 10 GOP House members voted against him. 197 supported him.

Being impeached twice by the Democrats should be worn as a badge of honour by a republican president: you must be doing something right if they want to get rid of you so badly.

 

[clem84]

it is just a sad moment. Everything about last week was fucking just sad reminder of where we are at.

He forgot "banned from social media".

 

[TheContact]

It did make a good excuse for censoring him and impeaching him 2nd time making him unable to run again.

And deplatforming of Parler, purge against conservatives (bannings of 70k people on Twitter), now they are attacking Cruz and Howley and debating ending electoral colledge. It is convenient.

parler had a lot of content about the planning of the riot on the capitol. Amazon, a private business, decided they didn’t want to host that content and shut them off. This is capitalism. This is what republicans have been pushing for so long. The 70k accounts that were banned were qanon accounts. Thank god Twitter got rid of that shit. And fuck Cruz and howley. They were complicit in pushing the bullshit that led to the riot. The will of the people, right?

 

[SF Kosmo]

I think the message is clear.

If you are not a Democrat never question an election.

If you are on the left its ok though. You can even have Stacey Abrams go around for 2 years claiming she is the real Governor and have the Dems at their own convention present her as the Governor of Georgia.

So basically if you are on the left you can incite and question the election till your hearts content. You can promote violent riots and take part in them.

You can ask questions, but you gotta accept answers, man. Did you hear his call to Raffensperger? And the press conference from the next day? Like all of this shit has been investigated, there's just nothing there.

And then, like clockwork, Trump goes "Well, I just still think it's true." Ok, but like, fuck you then.

 

[JORMBO]

That’s a nice message.

 

[Raven117]

Day late, dollar short.

This was a play for his future, not for the country.