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DOOM Launch Trailer
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Moff
Member
I realy can't agree here, I liked doom 3 a lot, and I hate arena gameplay.
Doom 3 did pretty much what doom 1 and 2 did as well, spawn some enemies when you pick something up. but several waves in an arena area? I don't remember that at all. maybe very rarely. but in new doom this seems to be the case in pretty much every room.
I kind of feel the same. Even if the game has a poor story, pacing, repetition etc, as long as the gameplay is that fast and smooth with a mouse I'm happy. Just want something Quake-like that's modern, just keep throwing enemies at me and I'll be fine.
Krappadizzle
Member
Doom 1&2 didn't really spawn enemies when you picked up weapons, usually a wall would come down or you'd be teleported to a space with enemies. Which forced you to immediately jump into the action as opposed to Doom 3 which would give you a flash, essentially warning specifically where an enemy will be and giving you plenty of time to prepare and they were usually in very small numbers in succession.
ALL 3 are great games, but 1&2 play substantially differently than 3 in just about every way. I'd say you could consider the enemy encounters in 3 as "wave based" but Doom 1&2 most certainly not. You'd just be surprised as level design was so good in those games(1&2) that enemies would be placed in places you aren't looking or expecting. Sometimes it'd be one guy, others it'd be 15. It always kept you on your toes those first playthroughs and they were amazing for it.
Well, that is really what it is all about anyway. That said, I do find the multiplayer fun and will get some extra enjoyment out of it. I'll take it.
Bloodporne
Member
Yes, why does everyone keep saying enemies spawn in Doom 1 and 2? They are traps with enemy placement that can be sussed out and anticipated with enough attention paid unlike the obnoxious random teleport thing in Doom 3.
I didn't think Doom 3 was terrible or anything, but the restrictive environments and enemy teleportation schtick hampered it massively. Nothing more exciting than knowing that basically every other room you step into someone is going to teleport right in front of you and right behind you after clearing out the 'behind you' space prior to it. Not very fun.
Simo
Member
São Caetano do Sul - SP - Brazil
At the mall - UZ Games.
The MSRP is 249,99R$ (which is a lot..... Uncharted 4 is R$ 199,99)
Here is some screens that I took.
Pretty big enviroments. Big arenas to fight, fast paced combat, superb aim.
Hahaha I was watching your stream last night dude when you started!! ....then it got shutdown. I hope you wasn't banned?
How many levels have you done so far? Really want this to be 12 hours lol
We almost got Piss Filter Doom, I'm glad they took feedback to heart and made the game more vibrant and colorful.
RowdyReverb
Member
Wow, I had missed this video. That speed is incredible! I'm glad to see that the game can be played his fast if the player chooses to do so
DeathSparks
Member
Hey can someone do a favor and create an Open Thread for DOOM, I'm unable to do it right now since I am still a Junior Member
Krappadizzle
Member
What do you mean by "open thread"?
edit: ahh, I see you mean Official Thread. wwm0nkey's right though. They don't go up till release and I'm sure it's been claimed already.
Moff
Member
oh I agree, I'm playing brutal doom right now.
I just don't think it was waves in d3, I know d3 plays a lot different than 1 and 2, but the suddenly appearing enemies (I don't think it matters much if they are teleported in or a wall comes down and releases them) are not something that was new to d3.
empty rooms and arena gameplay with waves however will be something new and I probably wont like it
OTs don't go up until the day before release and someone has to claim it first
Krappadizzle
Member
Yeah, I've been playing through Brutal Doom with Doom 2 and am blown away by how well it holds up and is massively enhanced by that mod.
That GTX 1080 Vulcan gameplay doesn't really show them spawning in as waves, at least not in the same way as Doom 3 so maybe that is just relegated to specific instances. We'll see. I can't wait.
This'll be the last game I play on my PC before I have to pack it up and ship it across the country and I'm jonesing right now for it. But Brutal Doom is a very nice stop-gap. I've been listening to Master's of Doom on audiobook while I play and it's been a really good time.
DeathSparks
Member
Ah thanks.
Jakartalado
Member
Do you agree with my impressions?
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=202991655&postcount=504
What chapter are you at?
I'm at the start of.the 8th mission
And yeah, the soundtrack is dope.
Yep. I don't agree on being divise, I think it has something for everyone (at least for the FPS Maniacs)...
I think the game is fun for those who know what they are buying. A fast paced shooter with a lot of violence. But the focus on finishers is a bit disturbing.
The way the game starts clearly shows the empasis on close quarters combat (you start with a shotgun!!!!!!!) and you'll spend most of the time using shotguns.
I turned down the controler right at Hell, the first image that I posted (I think it's chapter
5
Art direction is phenomenal, and ID Tech 6 it's pretty impressive at 1080p and 60 fps.
Jakartalado
Member
Played for 5 hours and haven't found nothing yet. At this pacing (unlocks and secrets....) I expect something around 10-12 hours.
Hahaha I was watching your stream last night dude when you started!! ....then it got shutdown. I hope you wasn't banned?
I got an e-mail from Youtube saying that I got 1 Strike. Guess 3 strikes and I'm out?
I think this is stupid, I bought the game, let me do whatever I want with it!!!!!!!!!!!
peanutbutterlatte
Member
It's free advertising haha but I guess there's technically issues with when legally the game should be available by. I don't plan on streaming but definitely getting my copy a little early!
Simo
Member
Wow. So those comments about people getting banned for streaming it was true then? That's crazy. lol
Any chance you'd be able to save some footage and upload it to YouTube as unlisted and share it just with GAF so everyone can see some of the goods from the final game? I'd love to see a little more, as well as the 3D model viewer in the menu!
Jakartalado
Member
I paid a lot for this game.... a friend of mine (the moron playing Spice Girls at the streaming) said to open donations. At least I would paid the game and done free advertising for the community.
I peaked yesterday, got 57 viewers!!!!! (and strangly, I was excited about that hahahaha).
Salz01
Member
Are you playing on console or PC?
Jakartalado
Member
You mean.... this?
I'll be happy to provide extra footage later today, sadly I'm stuck at work right now.....
And since I don't have any capture card, I'm limited to 720p and 30 fps from the PS4 Share function.
Don't worry, I won't post spoiler things here. (I hate spoilers, already saw every location from Uncharted at the screenshot thread..... I want to murder everyone there...)
PS4!!!!
peanutbutterlatte
Member
Certain parts of the early impressions sound pretty disappointing. From the people I've watched, combat looks quite dull but I can't tell if that's because they suck or not.
Apologies to the poster above if that's him! But one person was essentially playing tag with the demons and jumping/falling from platforms, wasn't great fun to watch.
Apologies to the poster above if that's him! But one person was essentially playing tag with the demons and jumping/falling from platforms, wasn't great fun to watch.
Simo
Member
You mean.... this?
I'll be happy to provide extra footage later today, sadly I'm stuck at work right now.....
And since I don't have any capture card, I'm limited to 720p and 30 fps from the PS4 Share function.
PS4!!!!
Yeah there we go! lol I just dig it when they put in those model viewers like Batman: Arkham series or Uncharted, so you can really appreciate the visuals and the amount of detail in the models.
From the streams it seems to. Looks 1080p and 60fps but the only downside is the game has some screen tearing which also plagues the Xbox version too.
Andrew Evenstar
Member
Yeah this lowers my expectations too. I was surely going to buy this game 1st and still probably will... but damn.
Jakartalado
Member
Some dips and screen tearing when traversal (due to loading I guess). Less problematic streaming texture problems from previous ID Tech games.
Rock solid 60 fps in combat, 1080p (it looks a little blury due to Post FX), but I think it looks amazing. Pretty remakable since arenas are very rich in details, pretty big and with a lot of FX.
Jakartalado
Member
There are enemies Patroling (at the beginning only stupid pawns), they start spawning when you attack the red orb. Then things get fun and gory.
i want to know this as well, do you encounter enemies just roaming aroung during exploration and inbetween those "arenas" with more heavy combat and spawning monsters?
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There are enemies Patroling (at the beginning only stupid pawns), they start spawning when you attack the red orb. Then things get fun and gory.
so you do fight enemies between those areas, does higher threats appear besides fodder enemies
peanutbutterlatte
Member
You can put this in spoiler tags,
but how are the remakes of Doom 1 levels? Are outside levels decent?
Yes they do. There is plenty of combat in between "arenas".
flaxknuckles
Member
I am really cool with that. Now my only concern are the glory kills. I wish they had made them and the chainsaw executions have movement to them so you don't slow down as much instead of stopping abruptly everytime.
Ixion
Member
G-Fex isn't making the OT anymore. JumPeRJumPzZ said he would do it though. If any of you guys want to contribute, you can PM him.
There are enemies roaming around outside of the arena sections. This game isn't solely an arena based game. The levels are mostly open-ended with branching paths and secrets to find, but the levels also contain arena sections here and there to allow for some really big, intense battles.
Psyrgery ES
Member
Jakartalado
Member
You know, I was expecting more from them. I found 2 rooms and they were empty.... =(
Got some ammo and health and that's it!!!
And they are pretty small, one was just one square.
Got some ammo and health and that's it!!!
And they are pretty small, one was just one square.
I'm starting to see stronger enemies between the arenas. Maybe in Hell things will be worse....
Simo
Member
Oh nice! His beta thread was solid so I can't wait for the OT!
didnt they say you would unlock the full levels from each of those areas after endgame from the main menu, think it was stated in the gamespot SP showing
The PC version hasn't unlocked anywhere, and since Bethesda isn't sending out review copies, the only people with a release state override version are id/Bethesda employees and probably some Valve folks.
Yes
Ooccoo
Member
Twitch will ban you for streaming a game before its official release date unless 1) you are the dev/pub or 2) you got permission from said dev/pub. It's quite clear. Youtube must be the same. You aren't supposed to be playing the game right now unless you are media. By streaming it ahead of time, you just say fuck you to street dates.
Ixion
Member
Review copies aren't being sent out until release day because SnapMap and the Multiplayer won't be live until then. That's the reason Bethesda gave.
So we'll probably see some rushed reviews on release day, unless there's an embargo after that, but I don't think you can set a post-release embargo...
Jakartalado
Member
There is an option at the main menu with the levels. I'll try at night with some pictures
Trophy hunters!!! The not secret trophies are easy!!! I hope they don't screw with something like complete the game without dying on Nightmare - Extreme hidden trophy....
My PSN ID is Jakartalado if you want to check it out!!!
CloudyTuba
Member
Oh, that was you. I was in there watching too. I got the link from some people on twitch that were looking for streams.
Piston Hyundai
Member
well at least there's snapmap
CloudyTuba
Member
Man, I just realized that though this comes out Friday, I won't have time to play it much until Tuesday morning. Sad trombone.
Comfort Jones
Banned
This is why I asked how much can that be messed with. As someone who is working on a HL2 mod basically full time the idea behind snap map is veeery interesting to me.
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