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DOOM's new patch removes Denuvo
- Thread starter MUnited83
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That doesn't mean anything. There can still be a loss of performance.
Crimsonclaw111
Member
When it isn't multiplayer garbage hell yeah
Depends if they give us real mod tools.
It almost sounds cheaper to get pirated
There is no definitive data that Denuvo increased the sales of DOOM. The major Denuvo releases this year do not track at dramatically different rates than titles with limited or no DRM, and even when DOOM was cracked that did not negatively impact its marketplace performance.
Not always necessary. Look at what Long War did to XCOM Enemy Unknown.
The Long War is like a hex edit. The best, most complex hex edit ever, but still. The few new assets are color swaps or other minor tweaks.
I don't mean to discount the developers, they worked miracles within those crazy restrictions. I just think a game like Doom needs a more open framework for good mods.
Wowfunhappy
Member
Huh? How do we know this?
By looking at steam spy sales graph.
Oh, some would buy in droves at $10 or $5. But yeah, at that point they might've even pirated it then bought anyway for the sake of posterity.
The Dear Leader
Banned
So far it's been INSIDE and Doom that have had it removed recently right? Any others?
MacGurcules
Member
Personally, I appreciate that this will make it a lot easier to play in ten or fifteen years if Denuvo isn't around anymore to authenticate it.
flaxknuckles
Member
These mods are about to be sweeeeeeeeeeeeettttttttt *licks lips*
Coriolanus
Banned
Yarp. Steamspy actually shows an uptick in sales right after the crack and before it got a discount, in fact.
synce
Member
My gut tells me that Denuvo causes publishers to lose more sales than they gain from "impatient pirates" (which I doubt is a thing). If 100k people pirate your game, that's 100k more people that will be talking about it. Apart from that there's people like me who refuse to buy digital content that can't be cracked, i.e. content you don't own, so yeah, good move removing Denuvo, even if it's kind of a backhanded way of doing it with the game being cracked already.
Delicieuxz
Neo Member
An FYI: Steam is capable of being just as DRM-free as GoG, but the choice rests with whoever uploads their game to Steam. Many developers and publishers actually do make their Steam games DRM-free - like InXile, Obsidian, and many others.
Here's a partial list of DRM-free games on Steam:
http://steam.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_DRM-free_games
When a Steam game is DRM-free, there are only the same protection measures involved in getting the game downloaded as there are with GoG:
- A user account and password is required to log in to the service to access the initial download
- The platform's proprietary installer must be downloaded and run to complete the installation of games (Steam's client is a universal installer, whereas GoG's requires the installer to be downloaded for each separate game)
Once a DRM-free game is installed, there are no restrictions on how the game is accessed:
- Neither Steam or GoGlaxy is needed to be running
- No online-connectivity is required for non MP content
- A game can directly be launched from its installation folder exe
- If there are no essential registry dependencies, the installation can be archived, and moved to any machine, and still run from its exe in the game folder without any DRM checks
The real difference that I see is that GoG has DRM-free as a policy, whereas Steam has DRM-free as a developer / publisher option.
Jacksinthe
Banned
"Don't worry about buying it right away, you can just pirate it 67 days after release!"
The whole point of not saying anything is so nobody knows when or if it will ever happen. Might force the hand at an extra sale or two.
Yep, that's why I said "If". I'm on the DRM-doesn't-increase-sales camp.
Glass Shark
Banned
Yep, and Doom got cracked anyway. Once the Denuvo is broken for a game the point is kinda moot, so no real reason to keep it around.
Randy Monk
Member
Time to buy
Chezzymann
Member
Nah im a poor college student who generally only buys 2 year old games for $10-15 dollars on sale
PHOENIXZERO
Member
I bought it Black Friday weekend for like, a little over $15, downloaded it but haven't played it yet, that big patch though looks like it was just MP junk. Denuvo if removed is cool though, as said really no point in keeping it since it was cracked, shame more developers/publishers (I know Playdead did) don't follow suit after the game is either cracked or it's been some time and sales fall off.
CecilRousso
Member
I don't expect a major boost in performance or number of mods, but it's nice to see Denuvo's servers nit being relevant. Hope more devs follow this.
The interesting thing here is that we'll finally get some actual comparisons between With/Withoud Denuvo when it comes to performance.
Granted, I doubt the demo had Denuvo in place anyway so maybe the comparison is already there? I dunno, nothing that pointed at it being a resource hog to begin with
Granted, I doubt the demo had Denuvo in place anyway so maybe the comparison is already there? I dunno, nothing that pointed at it being a resource hog to begin with
I know what you're saying. I'd love an official SDK for Doom. If they could replicate the WAD madness from the originals, I'd cry tears of joy.
Maintenance
Member
So this means I can finally buy it on PC? Cool.
This. I think Konami is still using it with Metal Gear Solid and Square-Enidos is with Just Cause 3.
Does this mean I can finally resurrect my old Beavis and Butthead Quake models me and my college roommate used to use??
Check this page out. Still have pages like this from back in the day bookmarked haahah
http://www.oocities.org/shirleydprest/
Check this page out. Still have pages like this from back in the day bookmarked haahah
http://www.oocities.org/shirleydprest/
Lmao exactly what I was going to say.
NullPointer
Member
That's the right way to do it.
No problems whatsoever with this supporting this kind of DRM policy.
Does this mean I can finally resurrect my old Beavis and Butthead Quake models me and my college roommate used to use??
Check this page out. Still have pages like this from back in the day bookmarked haahah
http://www.oocities.org/shirleydprest/
Boy, did I love those days!
"dude check out my Homer Simpson model!!!!"
"u idiot it's just a generic model rofl"
(no for real i love that)
vasametropolis
Member
Why is this patch 12GB? Is it just to remove Denuvo? If yes things are getting a little ridiculous.
abracadaver
Member
So performance is like 20% better now? People always said denuvo makes games run a lot worse
Winterblink
Member
I'm no expert, but maybe it basically has to reinstall the package again to "remove" it.
Yup. They remove DRM, then I should reward them for making the correct decision.
I actually really think that could work going forward but I also think I would personally wait the requisite 6 months to purchase single player games to communicate directly with my wallet to publishers that I'm not impatient and I will not stand for DRM.