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Dota 2 Beta Thread 2: Real Talk Discouraged [Magnus, Teams, 6.75b, 150+ Shop Items]

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I've been playing Leshrac a lot lately, I enjoy it because I never do bad and my team never really complains about me; however, I keep hearing about the possibility of carrying with Lesh, what kind of item build lets you carry with him?

(New icons are kinda ugly, love the rings though... Also like having movement speed on the main UI)
 
Actually, they changed quite a few of them completely. (Armlet, Helm, Eul's, Orchid, Manta, etc.)

Yeah but those things are different.

And people don't like things that are different.

They should put in the full damage range and a decimal version of your armor. That's one good thing they can take from HoN.
 
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so awesome.
 
I like it. Nothing bad about it at all. Just another instance where people don't like change. Though I guess I didn't have any issue with the old UI either.
 
Ooh, new HUD.

- It has a good deal more character than the old one, like it was chipped out of a sheet of rock. I like it.
- I love the new stat panel. Very prominent icons and very clean, and we now can see movement speed without having to hover over the panel.
- More prominent buttons for the courier and Fortify, nice. I've long become used to hotkeying for it, but still a welcome tweak.
- Item icons seem to be heavily WIP, disparate backgrounds and level of polish.

I know Lesh can be played as a support but isn't he way too farm dependent (needs a pretty huge mana pool) to be one? All his spells are mana intensive and he needs to be tanky to be a presence...
Skip ultimate, perhaps lightning as well, max Edict and throw some points into stun and stats. He's much leaner than he would be with farm, but he can still melt towers and contribute to ganks and teamfights.
 
A lot of the new item icons do look like they have a heavy dose of darken and sharpen filters applied to them like those ghetto FXAA mods people use in Skyrim and other games that don't allow proper AA implementation. It seems like a lazy way to make things look darker and grittier, which seems what they're going for.


Glibness is not an argument. Tell us why you don't like what you're seeing rather than just "do not want."
 
I like it. Nothing bad about it at all. Just another instance where people don't like change. Though I guess I didn't have any issue with the old UI either.

Well, it's not really only because it's different, I liked the clean look better. I don't like UI's with rocky/floral very elaborate patterns in general (not that this is anything like HoN), and I think the color contrasted better with the map in the bg. I also think the stats section could be a lil bit smaller.
 
New items icons are much better, the old ones were just really plain compared to wc3.
I felt that the plainness of the icons fit well with the aesthetic of the game with the bright simple colours, and easy to recognize designs

Although I already feel accustomed to them after one match, some of the icons for the staves and especially basilius look great
 
Just finished a bot game, I'm ok with the new hud, icons can use some work though, but I think most people are forgetting this part:

- Item Icon have been redesigned
[We plan to continue update these over the next few weeks, please give us your thoughts in this forum]
 
One thing I'm wondering is where streamers will put their webcam/info boxes now with there being minimal amount of extra space for widscreen monitors.

Also, did the old hud change the size of icons based on ratio? Just saw that different aspect ratios don't just push the "pieces" together but also make them bigger. Throw these into tabs and switch between them. Always figured it would just removed/reduce the plates between, and not completely change the size of the hud.

http://dota2.cyborgmatt.com/Dota2_NewHUD.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/wntAR.jpg

EDIT WTF did they do to Lion O_O

http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/576702778333687998/6261A0DCF55C3A666CAC740C967C1F2EA66044C5/
 
One thing I'm wondering is where streamers will put their webcam/info boxes now with there being minimal amount of extra space for widscreen monitors.

Also, did the old hud change the size of icons based on ratio? Just saw that different aspect ratios don't just push the "pieces" together but also make them bigger. Throw these into tabs and switch between them. Always figured it would just removed/reduce the plates between, and not completely change the size of the hud.

http://dota2.cyborgmatt.com/Dota2_NewHUD.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/wntAR.jpg

EDIT WTF did they do to Lion O_O

http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/576702778333687998/6261A0DCF55C3A666CAC740C967C1F2EA66044C5/

He looks like a troll now! Wow! Lion's face looks disgusting. I hope they change it back.
 
Lion actually looks like he's from hell, now

I always thought he looked cool during the International build
 
Lion actually looks like he's from hell, now

I always thought he looked cool during the International build
I liked him in the international as well. My issue here is the weird mascara on his eyes and the super double chin/huge neck that,s going in. Looks like he spent too much time eating. Gonna try to get some better shots of him.
 
Better shot of his ingame model. Honestly doesn't look bad but his face needs some adjusting.

http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/576702778334225620/3B25130FE424EEA194EF1BFFC369FB813107B2DF/
http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/576702778334227027/BBA1F365B30FB3EA9517F3C96549EE6D110BA88C/
http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/576702778334227949/5B254D606A32A9ABD7A2A6F407FA826F10122C98/

I personally like his original model the most. This one is much closer than the last one but his skin tone and fat neck beard are a big turn off.
 
The old lion (purple) was one of the coolest looking heroes. Why would they make him look disgusting? Such a strange change. I vote to revert back!
 
Lots of improvements in visibility.
New Glyph button waaay better. You can actually see the icon now!
Stats easier to see and ms is there.
A lot of the items more easily noticeable at a glance.
Colors over hero icons at the top are easier to see.
With a lot of you on not liking the style, though.

Also OH GOD LION IS DISGUSTING.
 
Not sure how I feel about the new icons. I'll have to give it time.

At first glance, I am not a fan of new Lion.
 
Found a gif that alternates the huds. New one shaves off a bit of the screen which is nice. You can also look at some of the icon differences.

http://puu.sh/rt56

I think a good example of good to bad is Vladimires Offering. It's new icon is dark on dark. MoM is another good example. They are just are to see without any contrast. Overall though I think all of the added detail just makes the icons hard to distinguish due to the size they are presented at.
 
I like the changes. New HUD looks alright. Items look too glossy or cartoony or something.. I can't put my finger on it but something looks off.

Lion looks fine. Purple Lion was ugly and probably one of the ugliest in the game.
 
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