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Bebpo

Banned
If you mean すばやさ, traditionally that impacts turn order. Haven't looked specifically in this game, but can't see why it would be any different here.

Makes sense. I forgot dodge has it's own stat that's usually like 1% or something. So is there no way to buff accuracy in DQ games since weapons like boomerangs/whips have bad accuracy?

Ps. good to see you again John! Haven't seen you on here in forever!
 
Boomerangs and Whips having bad accuracy seems to be a DQ11 thing. I didn't have that experience in the previous games. Camus's skill panel gives him accuracy bonus to boomerangs which makes them seem about the same as any other weapon once you get them all.

Whips seem to be screwed though
 
So I saw this survey done to DQXI players and one question made me come here and ask you guys: what is free-camera on PS4 and how is it different from auto-camera? More than double of JP players preferred auto over free!

http://www.siliconera.com/2017/09/27/dragon-quest-xi-survey-famitsu-asked-fans-platform-choice-characters/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
In battle. Whether the camera is completely controlled by the player and otherwise is just still or if it automatically shifts and changes with each move in battle.
It's more dynamic and you don't have to do anything yourself for the battles to look good.
 
Who is your favorite main character?

Veronica – 1,316 votes
Camus – 1,078 votes
Silvia – 988 votes

Correct first place
Incorrect 2nd and 3rd place

Also Nima not placing on the favorite non-main list is disappointing for me. Really liked her character despite her barely having much of a role in the game.
 

Holundrian

Unconfirmed Member
Mine is probably Veronica as well. Something about her animation always makes her a very memorable presence in every scene.

I would totally replay if they release a full voice patch/dlc crazy when I got 100+ hours on my save.
 

muteki

Member
Running around doesn't serve much purpose and I'm glad you can just have everyone hang out in a row like always. It would be kinda neat if certain attacks required you to think about positioning before hand but I don't think the game needs it.
 

Linkura

Member
Correct first place
Incorrect 2nd and 3rd place

Also Nima not placing on the favorite non-main list is disappointing for me. Really liked her character despite her barely having much of a role in the game.

I'm surprised that anyone other than Veronica was picked tbh. Clear best character.
 

urfe

Member
I just spent my morning commute doing roulette trying to get a jackpot. Oddly meditative. I was one away from jackpot once. I was one of those people on the train who had two electronic devices out (iPhone and 3DS) and was using them simultaneously though.

I had initially tried to put on all numbers and wait for it to land on jackpot, but that didn’t work when it did. Is my understanding correct that you can only pick one number?
 

Ōkami

Member
Second half spoilers.

I hope at some point they release artwork with Greig alonside the rest of the party, like all the ones they released before the game, also with Sennya's shorter hair.
 

urfe

Member
Post-game spoilers (on optional bosses, and also me talking about my battle strategies)

I just beat my first optional boss in the post-game. It was in the town of コロった or whatever it’s called where the coliseum/casino/Humphrey are. The boss was much easier than I thought he would be. I used my usual strategy of only attacking with Matilda (about 700 HP per turn), and buffing/healing with everyone else, switching in and out characters to heal with HealUs whenever necessary (great having a fast and slow character both cast it when necessary, or Sylvia’s trumpet dance healing thing). Humphrey always curing my こんらん makes me see the benefit of having someone like Sylvia on AI to do so when needed.

My surprise mainly came from walking into the dragon by the glacier lake again, only to have him destroy me (I wasn’t prepared to fight a boss granted, but I don’t think it would’ve mattered). I guess there is definitely easier and harder optional bosses.

I think I’ll try and clear the enemies of the port-town where you first get a ship next.

Currently around level 50.

(katakana town names will forever be the death of me)
 

john tv

Member
Post-game spoilers (on optional bosses, and also me talking about my battle strategies)

I just beat my first optional boss in the post-game. It was in the town of コロった or whatever it’s called where the coliseum/casino/Humphrey are. The boss was much easier than I thought he would be. I used my usual strategy of only attacking with Matilda (about 700 HP per turn), and buffing/healing with everyone else, switching in and out characters to heal with HealUs whenever necessary (great having a fast and slow character both cast it when necessary, or Sylvia’s trumpet dance healing thing). Humphrey always curing my こんらん makes me see the benefit of having someone like Sylvia on AI to do so when needed.

My surprise mainly came from walking into the dragon by the glacier lake again, only to have him destroy me (I wasn’t prepared to fight a boss granted, but I don’t think it would’ve mattered). I guess there is definitely easier and harder optional bosses.

I think I’ll try and clear the enemies of the port-town where you first get a ship next.

Currently around level 50.

(katakana town names will forever be the death of me)
Not heavy spoilers really, but tagging just in case (don't read if you're not in the post-game):
I'm allllmost done with the post-game stuff, and I'm around level 74-ish now. That dragon destroyed me the first time as well around level 60, so I did a bunch of other stuff, came back around 72, and whooped his ass. At this point, most of the optional bosses are down, I finished Nelsen's trials, and I thiiiink there's not much left to do besides wrap things up. What a fantastic game, tho - best post-game of any DQ ever IMO, just so much to do!
 
In battle. Whether the camera is completely controlled by the player and otherwise is just still or if it automatically shifts and changes with each move in battle.
It's more dynamic and you don't have to do anything yourself for the battles to look good.
Ok so the free camera doesn't have anything to do with how you control said camera when running around in the field? I would've guessed that was the case!
 

john tv

Member
Heavy, heavy, major spoilers - do not read before true end -

I say all that and yet I’m still not going to spoil but OMG at the true ending - literally burst into tears. For a longtime series fan it’s like the ultimate, ultimate love letter. I had a hunch it was heading to something like this but I actually expected it to be something else slightly, so I was genuinely surprised. Best DQ of them all, IMO - it’s gonna be hard to ever top this.

I also finished the StreetPass dungeon and that unlocked a bunch of boss battles - only did the first trio so far, but is that worth continuing? Also, are these battles presumably 3DS-exclusive?
 

muteki

Member
More random second half stuff:

I was checking out some places I previously couldn't get to and there is this forest location in the north east, just north of the windmills, where you can see the world tree just floating up in the sky, when it isn't/shouldn't be there otherwise. Spoiler I guess? lol.
 

muteki

Member
Saw credits for the first time. It was pretty easy for me overall, Martina's 氷結らんげき combined with 鉄甲斬 or other defense dropping spells made for quick work of most bosses towards the end. I may have been a bit over leveled after a few metal slimes, I was 52~56. First half of the game was top class and while the quality didn't stay as high to me in the second half it was still amazing. Now on to do some extra stuff.
 

urfe

Member
Took a bit of a break and got into Golf Story. Got back into it yesterday. Did the following in the post-game:

Re-did the scene with the hero’s dad. Defeated boss. Easier than expected. Sadly Veronica died right before boss died, and didn’t get all that experience.

Got rid of all monsters in first port town. No tough boss at end. No need to even restore MP after battling conservatively.

Got my whale to be ready to go to what I am assuming is the final area, so I guess now I am supposed to start the side quests. Around Level 52.

It’s now my most played 3DS game, beating out Dragon Quest VII.
 
I beat the game and now working towards some of the post-game stuff. I have nearly everyone at 99 now, but some of these missions are maddening since I can't read/write JP and sometimes have to ask for help to figure out what to do (I've been following some JP streams which helped a bit).
And the white ogre at the snowcapped areas that needs the hero to deliver a final blow with an electric hit I still have to figure out (I assume the main hero abilities with the sword raised up do the trick?). The twin cyclops fight was bad enough requirement-wise.
 

Aeana

Member
I beat the game and now working towards some of the post-game stuff. I have nearly everyone at 99 now, but some of these missions are maddening since I can't read/write JP and sometimes have to ask for help to figure out what to do (I've been following some JP streams which helped a bit).
And the white ogre at the snowcapped areas that needs the hero to deliver a final blow with an electric hit I still have to figure out (I assume the main hero abilities with the sword raised up do the trick?). The twin cyclops fight was bad enough requirement-wise.

Any of the デイン abilities will do for that.
 

Linkura

Member
My husband beat the game and is on the postgame tonight.

Did everyone except the hero just lose 20 levels for good? If so, that fucking sucks.
 

Linkura

Member
Keep playing.

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Edit: Just happened. Didn't take long.
 

Linkura

Member
My husband is getting pissed off again. He's in the post game and this boss fight is killing him. He seems to think because of the amount of turns they get, the charming, and the number of crits, that leveling up won't do much. I disagree. He's in the low 50s. The fight is
the one with I believe 4-5 people, including the wrestlers, the bunny girl,
and the female warrior
. I'm thinking he should just leave and come back later after doing other shit and gaining levels. Thoughts? I need someone else to tell him he needs to calm down, gain some levels, and come back later.
 

Rpgmonkey

Member
The post game seems to have a preferred loose order that the quests should be done in, but you don't really get perfect guidance on what that order is. There's a bit of trial and error involved.

Like I started out just trying to do things in the order you visit them in the main story, and the boss at the first town wrecked me. But then I went somewhere you visit many hours later in the main game, and it was perfectly appropriate for my level.

If something's too hard without grinding looking for other stuff to do seems to be the best option. The leveling for this seems to work itself out for the most part, unless you skip a lot of fights.
 

Linkura

Member
The post game seems to have a preferred loose order that the quests should be done in, but you don't really get perfect guidance on what that order is. There's a bit of trial and error involved.

Like I started out just trying to do things in the order you visit them in the main story, and the boss at the first town wrecked me. But then I went somewhere you visit many hours later in the main game, and it was perfectly appropriate for my level.

If something's too hard without grinding looking for other stuff to do seems to be the best option. The leveling for this seems to work itself out for the most part, unless you skip a lot of fights.

That's what I thought. Thanks.
 

Fukuzatsu

Member
So, this is the first Dragon Quest game I have seriously played, and while the lack of VO (even if just for grunts or enemies) and better-quality music stands out a lot, in general it seems quite well-made. Feels like playing an SNES RPG with very nice graphics.

One thing though, and this is admittedly a minor complaint--what is up with the inconsistent use of kanji in this game throughout menus and dialogue? I get that sometimes character dialogue uses different styles to lend different nuance to things (e.g. character pronounces word they have only just heard in katakana), but the menus especially I find very hard to use quickly without kanji.

I assume it's not just a "it's made for kids" sort of thing or else I would think there'd be furigana like in some Pokemon material or Puyo Puyo Tetris. Is it just a traditional thing like 'this is what the menus said on Famicom before kanji was available to use', or what?
 

Aeana

Member
So, this is the first Dragon Quest game I have seriously played, and while the lack of VO (even if just for grunts or enemies) and better-quality music stands out a lot, in general it seems quite well-made. Feels like playing an SNES RPG with very nice graphics.

One thing though, and this is admittedly a minor complaint--what is up with the inconsistent use of kanji in this game throughout menus and dialogue? I get that sometimes character dialogue uses different styles to lend different nuance to things (e.g. character pronounces word they have only just heard in katakana), but the menus especially I find very hard to use quickly without kanji.

I assume it's not just a "it's made for kids" sort of thing or else I would think there'd be furigana like in some Pokemon material or Puyo Puyo Tetris. Is it just a traditional thing like 'this is what the menus said on Famicom before kanji was available to use', or what?
The 3DS version has furigana. But the DQ series has always pretty much stuck to kyouiku kanji, even before furigana was a thing included in games.

You're right about the core menu options, though. You'll see どうぐ written as 道具 in other places in the game, but not in the main menu, for instance. Same for 呪文.
 

urfe

Member
The menus staying as they are I always thought was a nostalgia thing. Would be weird to see 装備 or 道具 in them.
 

urfe

Member
Can someone tell me if there is/who has a spell/ability to see enemy HP?

If not; any advice for ensuring last blow is the one with the special attack you need to use in some quests?

edit: Thought I’d give an update in my post-game exploits (spoilers of course):

Just beat two easy bosses. I guess they should’ve been the first for me to have done? The town where everyone is dancing, and the fishing village/mermaid boss both seemed exceptionally easy.

I tried to beat the two giants with the Greg/Sylvian double tech, and only beat one with it, and therefore didn’t satisfy the condition of the quest. Annoying stuff.

I did the same Nelson trial twice and there was a different boss at the end, so I got the recipe for the hero sword and also the final horse race (even the black cup wasn’t a challenge... I thought I’d be shit at this kind of stuff). Wanted to marry Emma, but that Snowy beast boss still appears to be too hard for me. Have gotten to level 55 now, so may try again.

Haven’t touched any of the purple quests really. Honestly not sure if I will.

About... 75 hours in? Getting to be the most I’ve ever spent on a single save ever.

I’m getting to the point where on bosses I feel I need to switch in and out characters every turn. Problem is I’ve never figured out how to properly use Camus, so I’m prob going to give a good look to his abilities and figure out how to best utilize him. I almost have the ability that makes his left hand as strong as his right, so I assume that’ll help a lot.
 

urfe

Member
I’m going to post again. I’m really happy that I could finally... (post-game spoilers)

Not only beat the beast in the snowy forest, but then beat him again when I properly read what I had to do in the old book tower! I hate conditions like that where you have to use something as the final blow. Apparently on the PS4 version they give hints when you’re close, but not on the 3DS version.

Anyways, Ishi has been restored (amazing weapon for Greg and the treasure hunter memo is neat), I’ll go to that Nelson trial now to get married. So much fun! The post-game kind of feels like an old Dragon Quest with the lack of direction.
 

Holundrian

Unconfirmed Member
I'm honestly surprised that this has not gotten any dlc. On one hand that's great cause you really feel that game is complete as heck and really what's there to meaningfully add outside of full voice acting.
On the other hand I'd be willing to play more :-x
 

RangerBAD

Member
I have a question for anyone who has got the Platinum or
married Ema. Did I screw up by doing the Nelson Labyrinth before I restored Ishi Village? I don't want to miss the trophy and also the second time in the Labyrinth has way harder bosses.
 

Ōkami

Member
I have a question for anyone who has got the Platinum or
married Ema. Did I screw up by doing the Nelson Labyrinth before I restored Ishi Village? I don't want to miss the trophy and also the second time in the Labyrinth has way harder bosses.
It makes no difference.
 

blackjon24

Member
6 months and no word on whats happening with the localization. What is this the 90s?? Man I feel like we've been more than patient. No other big japanese release take this long to come to the west anymore i hate how long we have to wait for this. At least for persona 5 we were getting updates. They've been extremely silent with this one.
 

Shouta

Member
They probably aren't going to be putting out any information until they've gotten really close to releasing it.
 

OH-MyCar

Member
6 months and no word on whats happening with the localization. What is this the 90s?? Man I feel like we've been more than patient. No other big japanese release take this long to come to the west anymore i hate how long we have to wait for this. At least for persona 5 we were getting updates. They've been extremely silent with this one.

Yeah that's par the course with how SE treats the franchise for everyone outside of Japan. Dragon Quest IX was announced in 2006 and it wasn't until nearly a year after it was released in Japan, in 2009, did we even hear that it was coming out in the west. Out of nowhere was an unceremonious, "it's coming out in a couple of months"-style message after waiting for nearly half a decade (and come to find out, Nintendo footed most of the bill on it all). We've been lucky with Heroes and Builders, but unless Sony or Nintendo is helping bankroll one of these I'd expect something towards the end of the year when it's actually going to come out.

Maybe they'll announce it following a limited edition, Pringles Can FFXV DLC outfit for Noctis & crew.
 
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KevinKeene

Banned
6 months and no word on whats happening with the localization. What is this the 90s?? Man I feel like we've been more than patient. No other big japanese release take this long to come to the west anymore i hate how long we have to wait for this. At least for persona 5 we were getting updates. They've been extremely silent with this one.

I heavily suspect that it's because SE will release PS4 and Switch versions same day in the West - but since the Switch-version hasn't been revealed yet, there's no date yet for any version. We should get a date either way at E3.
 

blackjon24

Member
I heavily suspect that it's because SE will release PS4 and Switch versions same day in the West - but since the Switch-version hasn't been revealed yet, there's no date yet for any version. We should get a date either way at E3.

Hopefully we do. I'm excited to see what the switch version turns out to be. If i remember correctly the base ps4 could only do 900p 30fps. So I'm sure some adjustment will need to be made. With so many japanese series becoming more popular than ever in the west yakuza, monster hunter, persona and nier it would be nice to see the same thing happen with dragon quest. Especially since dragon quest 11 is suppose to be quite the game.
 

KevinKeene

Banned
Hopefully we do. I'm excited to see what the switch version turns out to be. If i remember correctly the base ps4 could only do 900p 30fps. So I'm sure some adjustment will need to be made. With so many japanese series becoming more popular than ever in the west yakuza, monster hunter, persona and nier it would be nice to see the same thing happen with dragon quest. Especially since dragon quest 11 is suppose to be quite the game.

Wasn't DQ9 massively successful in the West?
 
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