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[mazillion]

Anybody know if drive club will have visible damage to vehicles. May seem petty but it's kind of a big deal to me. I want a driving game with GTA IV quality vehicle destruction at least.. :/

 

[amar212]

FYI there will be a new and updated demo at Gamescom next month

Great news, keep up the good work!

And of course, we are still interested about our wheels and DriveClub

 

[Sidewinder]

FYI there will be a new and updated demo at Gamescom next month

I hope some crow will be served by then

 

[Loudninja]

Anybody know if drive club will have visible damage to vehicles. May seem petty but it's kind of a big deal to me. I want a driving game with GTA IV quality vehicle destruction at least.. :/

Yes it will have damage.

 

[Liamario]

FYI there will be a new and updated demo at Gamescom next month

Good job. I played the first 2 motorstorms and enjoyed them (though they had some problems). From what I can tell in the driveclub footage, the handling looks like a lot of fun. I really hope you hit that 60hz. It's what is going to decide whether I buy this game or not.

 

[nib95]

FYI there will be a new and updated demo at Gamescom next month

I hope you will be serving crow to go along with the demo?

 

[stryke]

FYI there will be a new and updated demo at Gamescom next month

Hopefully we'll get some direct feed vids this time, hey?

 

[R3TRODYCE]

Man we really need some direct feed footage. When they were cutting between shots of the original trailer and the demo footage, it looks like a joke. Really strange that this is the only upcoming exclusive Sony seems unwilling to do that with - I guess it must just be really unfinished, but does that mean the original trailers were bullshit? Not again, Evo.

My thoughts exactly, great initial trailer but the game play doesn't look anything like that but I'll take the wait and see approach.

 

[Kazuma Kiryu]

FYI there will be a new and updated demo at Gamescom next month

Some direct feed footage, please!

 

[p3tran]

the better this game can be, the better for everybody.

please add some interesting (realistic) driving mechanics, and make them available by choice or by difficulty level, so that you can cater to more than the casual arcade racers out there.

 

[immortal-joe]

60fps ?

Stop dreaming, it won't happen

 

[Mung]

FYI there will be a new and updated demo at Gamescom next month

Awesome. Loved all your ps3 motorstorm games, especially pacific rift. I hope that Driveclub delivers that same 'this is definitely next gen' feeling.

 

[magawolaz]

FYI there will be a new and updated demo at Gamescom next month

 

[digoutyoursoul]

PS4 is agonisingly close

 

[Portugeezer]

FYI there will be a new and updated demo at Gamescom next month

Can we get some Direct Feed at Gamescom?

 

[i-Lo]

 

[kaching]

Can we get some Direct Feed at Gamescom?

I'd hope by Gamescom that the games are being played on legitimate PS4 hardware and direct feed footage could just be shared out with the OS feature...I'd hope.

 

[GameSeeker]

Can we get some Direct Feed at Gamescom?

I think this is an important piece of feedback for Evolution as well as the other sister Sony studios.

1) We want direct feed gameplay. Having to rely on off-screen footage does the game a disservice.
2) We want the footage in a high quality format. The poor compression/bitrate of YouTube destroys much of the detail and beauty of the new worlds you folks are creating. Figure out someway to release high quality footage along side the standard YouTube videos.

 

[i-Lo]

I think this is an important piece of feedback for Evolution as well as the other sister Sony studios.

1) We want direct feed gameplay. Having to rely on off-screen footage does the game a disservice.
2) We want the footage in a high quality format. The poor compression/bitrate of YouTube destroys much of the detail and beauty of the new worlds you folks are creating. Figure out someway to release high quality footage along side the standard YouTube videos.

Hopefully, they'll provide their video to gamersyde.com.

 

[SilentFlyer]

So 250,000 polygons per car??
That seems incredibly low.

From what I can remember
PGR3 - 100,000+ polygon car.
Forza 4 - 300,000+ polygons per car.
GT5 & Project CARS - 500,0000 polygons per car.

I think it was said that Forza 5 is to have cars be made up in the millions of polygons range.

Probably a mistake. Turn 10 claims they have 400k of polygons in Forza 3, and those car models were mostly crap.

Doesn't seems to be a mistake. The question is that are those polygons in-game or in photo-mode. Because Rushy replied

@ixYi The actual in-game models you race with average 250,000 - Not photo mode, front end or maya models which are often used for quotes.

 

[Portugeezer]

I think this is an important piece of feedback for Evolution as well as the other sister Sony studios.

1) We want direct feed gameplay. Having to rely on off-screen footage does the game a disservice.
2) We want the footage in a high quality format. The poor compression/bitrate of YouTube destroys much of the detail and beauty of the new worlds you folks are creating. Figure out someway to release high quality footage along side the standard YouTube videos.

Indeed. Next gen is all about the image quality and it's sad to rely on off screen footage which pretty much kills detail and makes it harder to tell the difference from current gen.

Funny how this gen off screen would help games look a bit better, next gen it makes them look worse.

Doesn't seems to be a mistake. The question is that are those polygons in-game or in photo-mode. Because Rushy replied

Basically the Driveclub gameplay models will be of similar quality to photo mode in last gen games. And at launch. I always thought the photo mode models look ridiculously good so I'm okay with this, but then on next gen consoles you have better textures and whatnot to go with it.

 

[flipswitch]

60fps ?

45fps. They're slowing getting there.

 

[Chamber]

I think this is an important piece of feedback for Evolution as well as the other sister Sony studios.

1) We want direct feed gameplay. Having to rely on off-screen footage does the game a disservice.
2) We want the footage in a high quality format. The poor compression/bitrate of YouTube destroys much of the detail and beauty of the new worlds you folks are creating. Figure out someway to release high quality footage along side the standard YouTube videos.

Indeed. Next gen is all about the image quality and it's sad to rely on off screen footage which pretty much kills detail and makes it harder to tell the difference from current gen.

Funny how this gen off screen would help games look a bit better, next gen it makes them look worse.

Preach. I think direct feed, uncompressed footage is even more important for next gen racing games considering how accustomed gamers are to looking at current gen bullshots and photo mode captures. The differences are not very apparent in these horrible off screen videos.

 

[bud]

So 250,000 polygons per car??
That seems incredibly low.

From what I can remember
PGR3 - 100,000+ polygon car.
Forza 4 - 300,000+ polygons per car.
GT5 & Project CARS - 500,0000 polygons per car.

I think it was said that Forza 5 is to have cars be made up in the millions of polygons range.

i'm pretty sure gt5's cars are around 250k-300k polygons.

edit:

AW: What did it take to create GT5 Prologue?

KY: We have 120 people working on the game, 40 of whom are car modelers. Roughly speaking, it's taken us three years and 320,000 man-hours to get this far. For the very first Gran Turismo, one car model took us an average of one day to create. It now takes us 180 days to do one car. In GT4, we used 4000 to 5000 polygons to create one car. That's basically the number of polygons in one car's light assembly in GT5 Prologue, where a whole car is on average 200,000 polygons.

http://www.autoweek.com/article/20071119/free/71119002.

 

[phosphor112]

FYI there will be a new and updated demo at Gamescom next month

SPILL THE BEANS!

And.. please.. someone toss around the idea of a next gen Wipeout back there. =/ Even if it is a small side project. For the love of God man. =;[

 

[SniperHunter]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoengumG6FI

still looks like ass.

I am playing Motorstorm 2 these days and that game looks great and is fun! this game looks like ass and plays like ass

 

[dripdripsplash]

still looks like ass.

I am playing Motorstorm 2 these days and that game looks great and is fun! this game looks like ass and plays like ass

Can I try the copy you've played ?

 

[Blimblim]

Hopefully, they'll provide their video to gamersyde.com.

I like the way you think
Anyway, we'll be at Gamescom and hopefully by that time we'll have master our new camera so we'll be able to make some great offscreen footage of that new demo

 

[travisbickle]

FYI there will be a new and updated demo at Gamescom next month

New track?

Any clues you can give? city? country?

 

[Callibretto]

i'm pretty sure gt5's cars are around 250k-300k polygons.

edit:



http://www.autoweek.com/article/20071119/free/71119002.

so, the 200,000 poly for gt5 cars are photo mode?

edit: I hope weather make it for launch, I think the plan now is to add those for dlc?

 

[phosphor112]

i'm pretty sure gt5's cars are around 250k-300k polygons.

edit:



http://www.autoweek.com/article/20071119/free/71119002.

Keep in mind, GT hasn't had the pleasure of using tessellation like Forza up until now.

 

[Saberus]

still looks like ass.

I am playing Motorstorm 2 these days and that game looks great and is fun! this game looks like ass and plays like ass

You played it??

As for looks, I think it looks good, but its to early to judge right now, next month should give us an better idea what to expect.

Also..little side note.. I switched over to mac now and whats up with the cool Gifs killing my browser.. aaaaaaak.

 

[SniperHunter]

You played it??

As for looks, I think it looks good, but its to early to judge right now, next month should give us an better idea what to expect.

I am just saying...you could FEEL the fun factor even while watching the videos of Motostorm. 16 players, open levels, chaotic racing.

Here we have one car with ridge racer handling, a narrow boring look track and that's it...

 

[Callibretto]

still looks like ass.

I am playing Motorstorm 2 these days and that game looks great and is fun! this game looks like ass and plays like ass

I think it looks really fun, there's a video of someone who know how to play it and he's drifting smoothly around corner etc that remind me of Ridge Racer a little bit. really looking forward for PS+ edition with strong possibility to upgrade to full version.

I am just saying...you could FEEL the fun factor even while watching the videos of Motostorm. 16 players, open levels, chaotic racing.

Here we have one car with ridge racer handling, a narrow boring look track and that's it...

oh come one, the handling won't be anything like Ridge Racer, I'm hoping it's gonna be a little bit more complex than that. anyway, I always like evolution handling in their games, motorstorm series have great handling, and even the motorstorm rc games have really really good handling that's super satisfying when I manage to get that 1 perfect lines in a corner

 

[TheJollyCorner]

this is what it looks like when I play racing games.

 

[SniperHunter]

oh come one, the handling won't be anything like Ridge Racer, I'm hoping it's gonna be a little bit more complex than that. anyway, I always like evolution handling in their games, motorstorm series have great handling, and even the motorstorm rc games have really really good handling that's super satisfying when I manage to get that 1 perfect lines in a corner

I dunno, I am not feeling this game at all. It just looks so fucking boring even when compared to that new Need For Speed game.

Those original bullshots were nice though

 

[AstroNut325]

SPILL THE BEANS!

And.. please.. someone toss around the idea of a next gen Wipeout back there. =/ Even if it is a small side project. For the love of God man. =;[

THIS! THIS! THIS!

NEED WIPEOUT ON PS4 DANG IT!

 

[WetPotatoBread]

I dunno, I am not feeling this game at all. It just looks so fucking boring even when compared to that new Need For Speed game.

Those original bullshots were nice though

This is not an arcade racer like need for speed of course it not going to look as ''Fun''.

 

[ethomaz]

FYI there will be a new and updated demo at Gamescom next month

Great news... looking forward.

 

[Chamber]

still looks like ass.

I am playing Motorstorm 2 these days and that game looks great and is fun! this game looks like ass and plays like ass

I am just saying...you could FEEL the fun factor even while watching the videos of Motostorm. 16 players, open levels, chaotic racing.

Here we have one car with ridge racer handling, a narrow boring look track and that's it...

I dunno, I am not feeling this game at all. It just looks so fucking boring even when compared to that new Need For Speed game.

Those original bullshots were nice though

Work. In. Progress.

Say it with me now.

 

[Callibretto]

THIS! THIS! THIS!

NEED WIPEOUT ON PS4 DANG IT!

honestly, unless they change the game drastically, I'd say leave wipeout alone. we got quite a few wipeout games for ps3, psp and even vita, but they really just felt like 1 game with track expansion, all plays mostly the same too. if Wipeout ps4 is just the same game and handling with prettier graphics, then I'd say just leave the game alone.

now if they're adding some kind of oculus rift support with 1st person cockpit view, then yes by all mean, make a new wiipeout please.

 

[jaypah]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoengumG6FI

Why does he keep spinning the camera around in the turns? Is he, like, trying to control it like a FPS?

 

[ethomaz]

i'm pretty sure gt5's cars are around 250k-300k polygons.

I don't know how much this is accurate...

Gran Turismo 3, PS2, 2001
Cars - ~2,000-4,000 polygons

Gran Turismo 4, PS2, 2004
Cars - ~2,000-5,000 polygons

Gran Turismo 5: Prologue, PS3, 2007
Cars - 200,000 polygons (probably interior + exterior)

Gran Turismo 5
Cars ~500K photomode

http://beyond3d.com/showthread.php?t=43975

 

[AOC83]

honestly, unless they change the game drastically, I'd say leave wipeout alone.

Wipeout is perfectly fine as it is. No need for major changes.

 

[BigTnaples]

Can't wait to see the new updated demo. Should look absolutely fantastic.


I will cross my fingers for 60fps too. But we will see.

 

[Korezo]

Is this game even being developed using a wheel? Games like GT and forza are demoed in wheels because the game plays best and is meant to be played with wheels, while the guys at Driveclub don't even know what wheel is going to be supported. This game will probably get tacked on wheel support and play like crap like Burnout paradise wheel gameplay.

 

[SniperHunter]

Work. In. Progress.

Say it with me now.

RIIIDDDDDEEEEE RACCCCERRRRRRRR

 

[ethomaz]

Is this game even being developed using a wheel? Games like GT and forza are demoed in wheels because the game plays best and is meant to be played with wheels, while the guys at Driveclub don't even know what wheel is going to be supported. This game will probably get tacked on wheel support and play like crap like Burnout paradise wheel gameplay.

If I'm not wrong Forza is developed with controller and after implemented the wheels support... GT are developed with wheels and after implemented the controller support.

I think how you develop is not a big deal but how you implement the wheel support in the game... you can added a great wheel support even after finish the game development.

 

[Raymo]

Is this game even being developed using a wheel? Games like GT and forza are demoed in wheels because the game plays best and is meant to be played with wheels, while the guys at Driveclub don't even know what wheel is going to be supported. This game will probably get tacked on wheel support and play like crap like Burnout paradise wheel gameplay.

I'm thinking the same. I wouldn't count on well-implemented wheel support at launch based on what they were saying.

 

[mckmas8808]

I don't know how much this is accurate...



http://beyond3d.com/showthread.php?t=43975

Wow! Gran Turismo's photomode polycount is crazy!