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DSFix 2.3 taken down after DMCA complaint [Up: Was mistake; being resolved]

Mineshaft_Gap

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Where can I download the newest DSfix? I just wiped everything off my HDD and want to reinstall Dark Souls with DSfix on the steamworks version
 

CertifiedFP

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Yeah, this has to be some sort of mix up. Namco Bandai can't possibly be that fucking stupid.
Well, they were stupid enough to rename their western branches to Bandai Namco even though their entire western brand recognition rested on Namco.

Imagine if we had Enix-Square instead of Square-Enix when Enix's brand recognition outside of Japan wasn't much more than "Those guys who published Tri-Ace's games."
 

TheBaronOfNA

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Well, they were stupid enough to rename their western branches to Bandai Namco even though their entire western brand recognition rested on Namco.

Imagine if we had Enix-Square instead of Square-Enix when Enix's brand recognition outside of Japan wasn't much more than "Those guys who published Tri-Ace's games."
I don't think you thought well that comparasion .
 

InfiniteNine

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What the shit. also, dat Tag change. lol

Until this is resolved I guess I'm boycotting Bloodborne and Dark Souls 2. Can't refund my Steam Dark Souls..
I'm not sure what Bandai has to do with Bloodborne? Also that kinda seems premature with what we've learned about the company that struck the copyright claim.
 

CertifiedFP

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What the shit. also, dat Tag change. lol

Until this is resolved I guess I'm boycotting Bloodborne and Dark Souls 2. Can't refund my Steam Dark Souls..
Dark Souls 2 I can understand, but did you miss the memo that Bloodborne is being published by Sony?
 

Eusis

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What the shit. also, dat Tag change. lol

Until this is resolved I guess I'm boycotting Bloodborne and Dark Souls 2. Can't refund my Steam Dark Souls..
I wouldn't hit Bloodborne over this, Bandai Namco's not involved with that and I wouldn't be surprised if From wasn't involved with this DMCA thing happening. It's like hating a girlfriend/boyfriend of a person you REALLY hate even though they had nothing to do with whatever angered you and may have even broken up.
 

Sayah

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Well, they were stupid enough to rename their western branches to Bandai Namco even though their entire western brand recognition rested on Namco.

Imagine if we had Enix-Square instead of Square-Enix when Enix's brand recognition outside of Japan wasn't much more than "Those guys who published Tri-Ace's games."
That comparison doesn't even make sense. Bandai is nothing like Enix in North America.

Bandai Namco isn't only in the business of making video games. A huge part of their profit share is also from toys, which Bandai plays a much more pronounced role in than Namco.

People need to do their background research before jumping to conclusions.

Source: http://www.bandainamco.co.jp/en/ir/annual/pdf_bnh/en_2014_9.pdf (document pages 2 and 3/pages 4 and 5 of PDF).
 

Mashing

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I don't play Dark Souls, but this is straight up horseshit. He didn't use any of their code, this is basically a mod and since when are those patent infringing? Besides, this is pointless. The file can be rehosted on many other sites.
 

Dragon1893

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WTF?! This is unreal.

I was just reading the gaf fail awards thread and as if this year didn't have enough bullshit already, now I see this.

Fuck you Bandai Namco. Fuck you!
 

The Shogun

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I honestly think this is something worth GAF uniting over to send a message to Namco about. Whether its Twitter or other means...

Durante is a badass who fixes developers broke ass PC games and helps the community. They can get the fuck out of here with this bull shit.
 

Unicorn

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I'm not sure what Bandai has to do with Bloodborne? Also that kinda seems premature with what we've learned about the company that struck the copyright claim.
Dark Souls 2 I can understand, but did you miss the memo that Bloodborne is being published by Sony?
I wouldn't hit Bloodborne over this, Bandai Namco's not involved with that and I wouldn't be surprised if From wasn't involved with this DMCA thing happening. It's like hating a girlfriend/boyfriend of a person you REALLY hate even though they had nothing to do with whatever angered you and may have even broken up.
ah, had no idea Sony was publishing Bloodborne. Been on a half-assed media blackout for it, haha.
 

Sayah

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Sounds about right.

I don't know why people like to become madly hysterical on this forum.

"F*CK YOU Namco. What an incompetent, greedy company. I'm NEVER buying anything from you EVER again. Except you'll see me in the Dark Souls 3 hype thread."

Like seriously calm down, lol.
 

mrgone

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It does seem an awful lot like incompetence-based legal scattershot from the debug leak. It'll probably be reversed.
 

Tizoc

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Dear Durante,

Please refrain from fixing our games and showcasing our incompetence to the world.

Thanks,
Bamco

This might be a new low for Bamco, have some respect when fans invest their own time to fix your shortcomings you fools, damn.
Far as I can see only DS1 suffered from the issues. Didn't DS2 and their recent PC output turn out fine?

I do agree that that's BS what's going on and hopefully this gets resolved soon.
 

Coldsun

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All of you people overreacting after Namco has said they'd look into it are amazing.
Its highly probable that someone low in the foodchain over there was tasked with pulling (by sending DMCAs) the debug exes and happened to not know what DSFix was.

It'll get resolved. We'll all carry on.
 

Parakeetman

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If Namco wanted to go all out with this, they would have done it a long time ago, not two years later. I think it's just the company's Germany branch that has made a mistake. Or there might have been a mixup because there's clearly no case here as far as any infringements go.

Just wait for a company response (and that's if they care enough to give a response) before jumping to conclusions. Or as the Dropbox message suggests, counter that DMCA notice through the form Dropbox provided and identify that it's a mistake on Namco Germany's part. Not much else to say there. Mistakes happen.

lol @ people overreacting and displaying all this vitriol.
But you know in stupid situations like these no better kick in the ass like knee jerk reactions taking to the internet like a sea of flames to get shit fixed.
 

HTupolev

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It's a bummer that companies can just say "I don't like that file" and they shut down someone's dropbox over it. Dropbox doesn't even investigate, just block now, check later?
That's how things work now. There was an uproar regarding Youtube's policies a while back, too.

Mellow greetings, fellow citizen! What appears to be your boggle is time zones.
Christmas is Thursday; at the time I made that post, the latest it was anywhere on Earth was 5:12 PM on Tuesday. Heck, it's still more than 3 hours before UTC+14 hits Christmas Eve.

Come on now. Don't tell people there exists a world outside of the states. You do know that last time anyone mentioned it <insert deity> pressed the reset button.
Geography lesson: the main part of the US stretches across multiple time zones. Many of us regularly communicate with people across those zones, so we are aware of how they work.
 

JNA

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Dark Souls 2.0.1 patch notes:

  • Improved stability
  • Now includes Bandai Souls fix (BSFix) developed by our own Burante
I hope this happens just so Durante can sue the living crap out of them.

Durante is the hero we need and deserve. Damn you Namco. -_-
 

Aarglefarg

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(It wasn't the 24th in any timezone, it was a little mix-up...)

I was thinking there would have to be some apology but now I'm not sure, acknowledging DSfix could be embarrassing.
 

CmdBash

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has bandai namco given out an official statement yet? seems a bit early to grab the pitchforks.
 

Occam

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It's a bummer that companies can just say "I don't like that file" and they shut down someone's dropbox over it. Dropbox doesn't even investigate, just block now, check later?
This is what our corporate overlords have decreed, and thus it was made law by their humble servants in the US-government in the form of the blessed DMCA.
 

Stuart444

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All of you people overreacting after Namco has said they'd look into it are amazing.
Its highly probable that someone low in the foodchain over there was tasked with pulling (by sending DMCAs) the debug exes and happened to not know what DSFix was.

It'll get resolved. We'll all carry on.
More or less. Honestly the fact that the DMCA is from the GERMAN branch would send off red signals. If they were targeting this debug exe thing then this was just an unfortunate mistake that will get sorted.
 

Tanooki_Suit_Up

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Much obliged for the mirror hosting, I got DS1 recently on a Steam sale, (haven't played it yet) and had no idea it was completely fucked by default until this controversy came up online. Glad I got in under the door as it closed.

[Lawyer.hat]

Durante, I dunno if you have legal counsel on this, but you should, it doesn't sound like a terribly hard issue to resolve. I don't handle copyright matters myself, but would be happy to do some legal research for you if you don't have any other options.

[/Lawyer.hat]
 

Fuz

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That's fucking preposterous.
They made the worst port in history of pc gaming and the game is only playable because of DSFix & DSMouseFix.
It helped selling it... a lot.
Utterly ridiculous.
 

Stumpokapow

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This is what our corporate overlords have decreed, and thus it was made law by their humble servants in the US-government in the form of the blessed DMCA.
Well, yes, from a user POV it sucks, but from a service provider POV it's a pretty good trade-off; you get to do whatever you want, don't need to take any real affirmative effort to block infringing files, but as long as you react somewhat efficiently you have no liability. You can even make money from infringing content in the mean time.

If I'm Dropbox, I absolutely prefer the DMCA to a system where I have to make judgment calls that could leave me liable.

The real loophole in the system is not service providers honouring takedowns, but the fact that there's no penalty at all if a user does a successful counter-takedown, so there' s no incentive for content providers not to takedown virtually everything that isn't on its face abusive. If third party content protection companies faced legal liability for issuing frivolous takedown notices (say, they could be billed $50 per failed notice as a penalty for abuse of process) the entire system would stop in its tracks. Alas...
 

Occam

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Well, yes, from a user POV it sucks, but from a service provider POV it's a pretty good trade-off; you get to do whatever you want, don't need to take any real affirmative effort to block infringing files, but as long as you react somewhat efficiently you have no liability. You can even make money from infringing content in the mean time.

If I'm Dropbox, I absolutely prefer the DMCA to a system where I have to make judgment calls that could leave me liable.

The real loophole in the system is not service providers honouring takedowns, but the fact that there's no penalty at all if a user does a successful counter-takedown, so there' s no incentive for content providers not to takedown virtually everything that isn't on its face abusive. If third party content protection companies faced legal liability for issuing frivolous takedown notices (say, they could be billed $50 per failed notice as a penalty for abuse of process) the entire system would stop in its tracks. Alas...
Good point, there should be a pretty severe penalty for unsubstantiated claims. But that is not what our corporate overlords have decreed. Just another step on the roadmap to consumers owning nothing and corporations owning everything.
 

RVinP

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That DMCA complaint behavior seems mechanical, something on the lines of some (bot) person who has no general knowledge about anything related to Dark Souls pushing the trigger.