No, you can arbitrarily specify at what FPS you want to cap it.thank you. Is dynamic framerate control the same as double vsync? I'm using double vsync and it seems to be working well.
Durante Presents: FFXIII resolution unlocking (GeDoSaTo plugin) released - pre-alpha
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BONKERS
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I have come to a somewhat revelatory discovery...
Not only for the FFXIII plugin, but something that may have solved a problem i've long had.. a solution I didn't even think to try
(Only problem left is that 2D stuff, no matter what, doesn't scale the best, this includes the FMVs, which if you use the plugin to run native at, will look pretty bad unless you use a different scaling mode. Which also affects 3D too. Which may be a double edged sword. See below)
And if you prefer something sharper...
Basically with this, you can use SGSSAA with GeDoSaTo/FFXIII plugin, but smoothness/sharpness factor is dependent on scaling method used since the scaling also concurrently affects the 3D rendered part as well as 2D elements at any given resolution.
So if you ever change this Durante, please I beg you, to somehow put a variable option specific to the plugin to enable the scaling filters to work on everything. Or just 2D.
Not only for the FFXIII plugin, but something that may have solved a problem i've long had.. a solution I didn't even think to try
(Only problem left is that 2D stuff, no matter what, doesn't scale the best, this includes the FMVs, which if you use the plugin to run native at, will look pretty bad unless you use a different scaling mode. Which also affects 3D too. Which may be a double edged sword. See below)
And if you prefer something sharper...
Basically with this, you can use SGSSAA with GeDoSaTo/FFXIII plugin, but smoothness/sharpness factor is dependent on scaling method used since the scaling also concurrently affects the 3D rendered part as well as 2D elements at any given resolution.
So if you ever change this Durante, please I beg you, to somehow put a variable option specific to the plugin to enable the scaling filters to work on everything. Or just 2D.
ss_lemonade
Member
I just got some money back from paypal. Shall offer some this weekend
Nice! How is the performance hit on it?
I'm currently hacking with what seems to be affecting the lighting.
BONKERS
Member
I thought that the game might be using some kind of AA by default.(Since the PS3 had 2xMSAA or whatever) But it looks so mediocre it was hard to tell TBH.
In the next version you can select the number of MSAA samples, and also enable CSAA (on NV) or EQAA (on AMD).
Angry Fork
Member
Can someone explain how to use this tool, the readme isn't particularly helpful for real noobs who don't have 3 monitors and 2 GPU's/oculus rift/splitsample micro physxxx tycoon multithread tech.
I just want to play this in 1080p with like 2-4xAA or something if necessary. I checked edit settings but there are 4 different renderresolution options for some reason I don't know if I just put the 1080p numbers there and then delete the other 3? or what, and I don't know how to change it to full screen when I launch the game it's a small window. Thanks for the help and work done on this tool/fix.
I just want to play this in 1080p with like 2-4xAA or something if necessary. I checked edit settings but there are 4 different renderresolution options for some reason I don't know if I just put the 1080p numbers there and then delete the other 3? or what, and I don't know how to change it to full screen when I launch the game it's a small window. Thanks for the help and work done on this tool/fix.
Angry Fork
Member
Thanks
Saiyan-Rox
Member
How about making Fal'ce a l'cie to make the fal'cie confused about the l'cie and not knowing what the Lal'cie need to cie?
My brain hurts
He probably likes what hes doing.
BONKERS
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Hate to ask more, but do you think this is fixable?
http://i.minus.com/ioJ1oBibolec9.png
While also maintaining separate scaling/allowing the resampling filters to also affect the 3D portion?
What that entails exactly, I think is convoluted perhaps
Basically.
A.) Going beyond the locked internal 1280x720 borks 2D Scaling of any kind , FMVs included (Think, Capcom logos in RE:Revelations,RE6)
B.) Resampling filters that are normally used to downsample an image from a higher resolution also affect native resolution if you set the game at your native res.
(sub B.) When downsampling, using said resampling filters, depending on which one, they help smooth or balance it out. Comparison
C.) Resampling affects *everything* at native resolution. 2D, and 3D
Comparison
You'd think this an unintended bug, but...
D.) You can use this to good effect, the comparison from C^ is using 8xSGSSAA
So you can use lanczos for example to get the most balanced image at native resolution
but there is yet another *fantastic* effect from this
E.) You can essentially trick GeDoSaTo into thinking a resolution you intend to downsample with is your native resolution. Thus allowing you to use *anything* from the drivers forced! So, in the past. GeDoSaTo hasn't worked with forcing Anti Aliasing from Nvidia Inspector, or HBAO+. But with this trick you CAN
And since the resampling filters affect native resolution rendering, and GeDoSaTo thinks this is your native resolution. You can essentially use the 4 various filters to personal preference as say the equivalent of the Smoothness slider in Nvidia's DSR!
And then it's downsampled again using the driver's bilinear filter. (It looks glorious in motion)
Comparison
F.) The problem being , that if this is a bug and you fix the 2D scaling by other means. And then fix the resampling from applying to native resolution. (So IE: Get correct 2D and FMV scaling, and 3D is left alone) This messes up the trick above , and doesn't leave any user with the choice between what filter suits their preference.
G.)Basically, would it be possible to make a switch/option that you could enable to say "Enable scaling/resampling at native resolution for 3D only =0/1"
Ugh sorry if that doesn't make more sense
http://i.minus.com/ioJ1oBibolec9.png
While also maintaining separate scaling/allowing the resampling filters to also affect the 3D portion?
What that entails exactly, I think is convoluted perhaps
Basically.
A.) Going beyond the locked internal 1280x720 borks 2D Scaling of any kind , FMVs included (Think, Capcom logos in RE:Revelations,RE6)
B.) Resampling filters that are normally used to downsample an image from a higher resolution also affect native resolution if you set the game at your native res.
(sub B.) When downsampling, using said resampling filters, depending on which one, they help smooth or balance it out. Comparison
C.) Resampling affects *everything* at native resolution. 2D, and 3D
Comparison
You'd think this an unintended bug, but...
D.) You can use this to good effect, the comparison from C^ is using 8xSGSSAA
So you can use lanczos for example to get the most balanced image at native resolution
but there is yet another *fantastic* effect from this
E.) You can essentially trick GeDoSaTo into thinking a resolution you intend to downsample with is your native resolution. Thus allowing you to use *anything* from the drivers forced! So, in the past. GeDoSaTo hasn't worked with forcing Anti Aliasing from Nvidia Inspector, or HBAO+. But with this trick you CAN
And since the resampling filters affect native resolution rendering, and GeDoSaTo thinks this is your native resolution. You can essentially use the 4 various filters to personal preference as say the equivalent of the Smoothness slider in Nvidia's DSR!
And then it's downsampled again using the driver's bilinear filter. (It looks glorious in motion)
Comparison
F.) The problem being , that if this is a bug and you fix the 2D scaling by other means. And then fix the resampling from applying to native resolution. (So IE: Get correct 2D and FMV scaling, and 3D is left alone) This messes up the trick above , and doesn't leave any user with the choice between what filter suits their preference.
G.)Basically, would it be possible to make a switch/option that you could enable to say "Enable scaling/resampling at native resolution for 3D only =0/1"
Ugh sorry if that doesn't make more sense
AMD user here, the on screen stuff has been fixed now (minimap, blurry box, dialogue, loading screens). But I still have frequent crashes at the beginning of fights, when the games switches from overworld to fight scene.
Edit: Crashes occur at 4k downsampled to 1080p, no crashes at rendering res of 1080p, will try different resolutions now.
Edit: Crashes occur at 4k downsampled to 1080p, no crashes at rendering res of 1080p, will try different resolutions now.
So, you're basically in the same boat as we are. I didn't reach that chapter for the moment, so I don't know if I will get drops like his, but it seems to be the same problems we get.
60fps and little drops when something "popup". Maybe it's something from the HUD's fx that causes that.
KojiKnight
Member
Having issues with my 7870... If I lock my framerate via RadeonPro to 30 to prevent the 30/60 bouncing, my GPU gets 'bored' and goes to sleep (drops down to 150/300 clock rate) and thus my framerate plummets to 8fps. If I leave it unlocked, it never breaks 30-40% even at 4k, but again it does the 30/60 bouncing (the battle HUD as others have noted seems to be causing the majority of the dips).
Any other AMD user having these issues/have a solution? What I've seen of the game looks gorgeous at 4k and I don't want to give up that dream, especially when most of these things happen even at default 720p.
Any other AMD user having these issues/have a solution? What I've seen of the game looks gorgeous at 4k and I don't want to give up that dream, especially when most of these things happen even at default 720p.
If you've got MSI afterburner you should be able to set Unofficial Overclocking mode to without powerplay support. It will keep your card at the higher clocks all the time until you change it back, which will require a reset iirc.
KojiKnight
Member
In the main config file (not the FFXIII one) set your resolution instead of having it auto detect (which is what the 0's are). That fixed the crash at startup for me.
I'll have to try it later... My wife is currently asleep and I don't want to wake her just to get it working right now.
This isn't an issue exclusive to FFXIII at all, but it bothers me to no end when, for some reason, prerendered stuff won't use the whole screen, and I get a line like 1 pixel long in one of the sides. In-game the whole screen is filled, so it's probably not my TV being poorly configured.
The Uncharted games' black bars when looking at shit also gave me like 2 pixels long lines on the top where it wouldn't be black and I would see the game behind it. Again, I don't think it's my TV since The Last of Us doesn't have this issue, but I didn't have it on my old TV either.
I know this is kinda off topic, sorry, but since many people who are into this stuff are around here, maybe someone can help me?
The Uncharted games' black bars when looking at shit also gave me like 2 pixels long lines on the top where it wouldn't be black and I would see the game behind it. Again, I don't think it's my TV since The Last of Us doesn't have this issue, but I didn't have it on my old TV either.
I know this is kinda off topic, sorry, but since many people who are into this stuff are around here, maybe someone can help me?
Yeah I am totally confused at this point and i'm only an hour into it lol
KojiKnight
Member
It doesn't get much better. They will drop a bit of information here and there, but it's all delivered very heavy handedly which makes it hard to follow even as they info dump you. They give you an in-game glossary for a reason (because the writing is so terrible). It's a bit better for me on my second time through since I actually have a functioning understanding of what's going on... sort of. The cold boot option coupled with the dozens of made up terms was not a great way to start this game... but it was the quickest way they could start the game with a giant spectacle.
Thanks but it doesn't work. In the main config file I have
I also tried to set presentWidth/Height to the native res of my monitor (1920x1200) and it doesn't work either. It crashes even if I try to force the game @ 720p.
Edit: I tried with a new fresh install of Gedosato and now (without changing anything) it works!
xBladeM6x
Member
This scares me. Next headline:
"Based" Durante goes on mass killing spree of SE employees, currently in mental asylum.
michaelius
Banned
Seriously SE should pay you good cash for fixing their own mess.
The problem occurs when you want to capture glorious hudless 60 MB .bmps. Or more
I managed to mitigate it now by setting all the game's heap allocators to low fragmentation mode (I have no idea why they weren't in the first place). So far it doesn't seem to break anything.
ThePoopDeck
Neo Member
ok im new to this and this is probably a dumb question but the program just doesnt seem to want to work for me. I mean the launcher works and the game comes up but seriously nothing is changing, there are still those huge black bars above and below the game. What do i do? Oh and GeDoSaTo is activated.
[UPDATE]
Nevermind. For anyone in my situation, run EVERYTHING as admin.
[UPDATE]
Nevermind. For anyone in my situation, run EVERYTHING as admin.
legacyzero
Banned
I'm glad Durante is a Metal lover. He really is perfection LOL
It's demanding regardless of resolution I noticed. I was getting them even when I dropped the resolution lower.
New version, changes:
Performance of these options:
Personally, I have my user settings at this now:
presentInterval 0 is because I play in borderless fullscreen, so I don't need the game to do vsync.
At those settings I get pretty solid 60 FPS in the first area (didn't get out of that yet!). I know I said I'd go for 30 and high IQ, but even I honestly can't really complain about anything IQ-wise with 16xCSAA and bicubic downsampling from 4k.
It's great to be able to use real AA in a game again.
- Added shadow scale option (increases shadow resolution)
- Added settings for the number of MSAA samples and coverage sampling (that is, CSAA or EQAA depending on your GPU)
- Mitigated issues with large screenshots (taking a screenshot should never crash now, but it might still fail at very high resolutions or settings - it will report that failure though)
- Changed scaling order, fixes some sharpness issues
Performance of these options:
Personally, I have my user settings at this now:
Code:
renderResolution 3840x2160@60
MSAASampleCount 4
enableCoverageSampling true
shadowScale 8
presentInterval 0
scalingType bicubicpresentInterval 0 is because I play in borderless fullscreen, so I don't need the game to do vsync.
At those settings I get pretty solid 60 FPS in the first area (didn't get out of that yet!). I know I said I'd go for 30 and high IQ, but even I honestly can't really complain about anything IQ-wise with 16xCSAA and bicubic downsampling from 4k.
It's great to be able to use real AA in a game again.
Let me know if the coverage AA stuff breaks horribly on AMD! It should work the way I wrote it according to the documentation I read, but it's often not that easy
Durante, I've been having an issue where clicking the update button on GeDoSaTo doesn't seem to actually update the program. This has happened with the last 3 updates. I click "Update to xxxx" and it goes through the motions, downloads the updated files, installs them and says it's completed, but the program still says I'm at the previous version, and the update button is still there.
Edit: On a second look, it appears GeDoSaTo does, in fact, update. It just doesn't think it has. It's updated but the version number doesn't change, and the update button remains afterward.
Does the GDST borderless function works now? Mine doesn't work when I used it.
Hmm, try removing the entire installation and reinstalling?
No. For now, I set the game to windowed and use another tool for borderless fullscreen.
Saiyan-Rox
Member
Just downloaded the new one and so far my FPS was better than run (haven't left the first area yet)
Shadows are a bit jaggie though but that's the only issue I saw
Shadows are a bit jaggie though but that's the only issue I saw
If you haven't changed the settings, the shadows will be exactly the same as before (there are no changes).
If you have, they'll be less aliased than before.
I used to have this problem, but haven't seen it in a while. On my end it was caused by the dll being locked down by some other program for some reason (at the time it was one of the Steam processes, helper services, whatever, don't remember which), and shutting down Steam would allow it to update properly. That was also the time when I was getting seemingly random Steam crashes when GeDoSaTo was enabled, but those have stopped too.
Saiyan-Rox
Member
Hmmm I haven't changed anything no I'd break something by going through the settings maybe I just wasn't noticing them before now