perfectchaos007
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It's jagginess is due to the screen resolution mostly. Hopefully one day Nintendo will realize that their low res handheld screens make their games look bad.
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E3 2015 | Nintendo Digital Event
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It's jagginess is due to the screen resolution mostly. Hopefully one day Nintendo will realize that their low res handheld screens make their games look bad.
GustyGardens
Banned
You can skip the tutorials this time around, at least it seems that way. They're playing this on the Treehouse stream right now, and it looks really good.
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Jotamide
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>Stay unspoiled all morning
>Open youtube and avoid reading comments or related videos
>More dislikes than likes on the video
>Oh boy
>Open youtube and avoid reading comments or related videos
>More dislikes than likes on the video
>Oh boy
One would hope.
The Wii U has been great, but knowing how quickly Nintendo have seemingly abandoned it makes me less likely to spend money on the NX.
Compensating people in some form would help instil confidence in the company.
Nintendo wants to sell systems so it's more likely they release it on NX first and then Wii U, like they did with Wii and TP.
this is the absolute worse thing they could do, imo.
you want people to buy your new system. a massive new zelda game as a launch title for the system would serve as a massive impetus for people to purchase the nx. making it available for the wii u will disincentivize people from purchasing the new system.
additionally, why allow the computational limitations of the wii u to limit the scope and beauty of the next zelda game? transfer the entire project to the nx, and take full advantage of the added power of the new system to make the best game possible.
i don't know, what i should say.
the fact, that i waited the whole day for this presentation and waiting until 6.00pm (gmt+1) and get disappointed right from the start, reminds me of the situation 6 months after the wii u launch: well, i will sell this console. Then i repurchased one (mario kart...), struggling with to get my NNiD back ( i will never forget that ninty...) and it's the whole situation, again.
Jesus, seeing Star Fox and thinking, well, this looks like a gamecube game somehow. And then again, a presentation of Yoshis game (i do like the game, but i think we already had quite a lot of presentations...) Mario Maker, it is a great idea, but it's nothing for me. I'm not that 2D player guy anymore. About the other games, i don't wanna talk about it and definitely not about the 3ds games.
Yeah, the Wii U is dead. It's only Zelda for me now, what i'm looking for. And i don't think, they will do a "twilight princess" at first.
and i think, that Nintendo will not go completely NX next e3, from what i learned about Nintendo.
Nintendo Conference E3'16:
Zelda Wii U Trailer
2 Wii U Games for 2016
3 3DS Games for 2016
Some information regarding NX, how it will work. The idea behind.
No real console presentation, no name, no price, no release. Just a few demos of no real games, since all devs are hard working and still in the beginning.
More information and full presentation in Nov'16. "Some games" and maybe then "we also worked on Zelda Wii U parallel for NX..." since they realize, their games/devs need more time...
Release February-March'17.
the fact, that i waited the whole day for this presentation and waiting until 6.00pm (gmt+1) and get disappointed right from the start, reminds me of the situation 6 months after the wii u launch: well, i will sell this console. Then i repurchased one (mario kart...), struggling with to get my NNiD back ( i will never forget that ninty...) and it's the whole situation, again.
Jesus, seeing Star Fox and thinking, well, this looks like a gamecube game somehow. And then again, a presentation of Yoshis game (i do like the game, but i think we already had quite a lot of presentations...) Mario Maker, it is a great idea, but it's nothing for me. I'm not that 2D player guy anymore. About the other games, i don't wanna talk about it and definitely not about the 3ds games.
Yeah, the Wii U is dead. It's only Zelda for me now, what i'm looking for. And i don't think, they will do a "twilight princess" at first.
and i think, that Nintendo will not go completely NX next e3, from what i learned about Nintendo.
Nintendo Conference E3'16:
Zelda Wii U Trailer
2 Wii U Games for 2016
3 3DS Games for 2016
Some information regarding NX, how it will work. The idea behind.
No real console presentation, no name, no price, no release. Just a few demos of no real games, since all devs are hard working and still in the beginning.
More information and full presentation in Nov'16. "Some games" and maybe then "we also worked on Zelda Wii U parallel for NX..." since they realize, their games/devs need more time...
Release February-March'17.
PantherLotus
Professional Schmuck
One of Polygon's "8 biggest stories of the Nintendo E3 conference" was Mario Tennis.
That makes me sad inside.
That makes me sad inside.
The Scrivener
Member
Makes me sad to say the same. Strangely, I thought the PS show was the best E3 show I've ever seen, I wasn't expecting that. Never thought I'd see the day when I say this!
Iva Demilcol
Member
I just checked the Nintendo Digital Event for E3 2015...
It's as if they didn't want my money...
It's as if they didn't want my money...
American Eskimo
Banned
Because those who bought Wii U and stayed with it are core Nintendo fans. Many of them bought the system just for that game. And releasing it on NX exclusively would basically be equivalent of showing middle finger to them.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Bruh, it's Polygon.
Did anyone find out what Gies was talking about when he mentioned a "10 year old beloved game announced that takes the wind out of it"?
Was it Shenmue 3 and the Kickstarter? Cause he is dead wrong again. (Shocker)
Nintendo can't possibly ride things out until 2018, they just can't.
Third parties have completely abandoned the platform and none of the first party games are moving consoles. They've already released their big guns like Mario Kart and Smash. They can't really drop the price without suffering losses and even if Wii U suddenly started selling twice as many units as before, it still wouldn't be enough anyway. As sad as it is, Wii U is a lost cause and it doesn't make sense to pour any money into it.
Nintendo is gonna rush out their new console because they don't really have a choice. They can't risk being irrelevant for several more years.
This post inspired me to make this gif:
Would be perfect if someone can edit in retro studios logo as clint's head, neogaf logo as ''the ugly's head, and a wiiU as a head on the man rolling in the grave, and maybe a sign instead of the hat, saying RIP wiiu 2012-2015. My editing skills are beyond horrible
Dash Kappei
Not actually that important
So does Mario Tennis also have Remote+ comtrols or only traditional? Can you also play straight up Tennis with no suppa powa bullshit?
No one's will ever top Grand Slam Tennis' motion controls, will they? ... problem is that one was already starved for content and the series died with the horrible sequel which didn't even come out on Wii lol
No one's will ever top Grand Slam Tennis' motion controls, will they? ... problem is that one was already starved for content and the series died with the horrible sequel which didn't even come out on Wii lol
it seems transparent to me that they fluffed Mario Maker out into being a holiday title. the rename is just icing on the rebrand cake. by my nintendo fan calculations there should have been a next major Mario, but it was likely delayed just like Zelda was for the inevitable NX.
pixelation
Member
Well, this all but confirms that i'll just wait until the Wii U is dirt cheap @ GS (like i did with the Wii) and purchase the few games on it that interest me, no point in getting it new at this point.
This the most rational thing they could do. But they have chosen to go the rout of SEGA with the 32X and SEGA Saturn. We all know how that turned out.
Zero²;168441197 said:
I wish I could say the same. I bought the Wii U for the uniqueness the controller could bring to gaming. They didn't even really use it outside of their first launch title. They promised games that would show benefit of the Wii U Gamepad, and gave nothing. The same with the 3DS and 3D. Promised new games that only 3D could bring. Haven't seen a one. Built systems around the functions and then made them simply options in most of their games.
It would be glorious hahahaThis post inspired me to make this gif:
Would be perfect if someone can edit in retro studios logo as clint's head, neogaf logo as ''the ugly's head, and a wiiU as a head on the man rolling in the grave, and maybe a sign instead of the hat, saying RIP wiiu 2012-2015. My editing skills are beyond horrible
I've said it before and I will say it again: Nintendo's backed so far into the corner that they're really going to need to step up their game with their new hardware.
They're in the most fragile position they've ever been in and today's event didn't make it any less perilous for them. So I see the next console as an "evolve or die" moment for them, similar to the post-Gamecube landscape, but on a much larger scale. Time to throw out the conventions they attempted to rely on when making Wii U, the conventions they established with the Wii, and redefine what the Nintendo brand is about.
How does Zelda on Wii U keep people from buying a new system and the game with it, exactly? Didn't seem to hurt Twilight Princess all that much, did it?
They're in the most fragile position they've ever been in and today's event didn't make it any less perilous for them. So I see the next console as an "evolve or die" moment for them, similar to the post-Gamecube landscape, but on a much larger scale. Time to throw out the conventions they attempted to rely on when making Wii U, the conventions they established with the Wii, and redefine what the Nintendo brand is about.
How does Zelda on Wii U keep people from buying a new system and the game with it, exactly? Didn't seem to hurt Twilight Princess all that much, did it?
I'm a huge Nintendo fan but I saw warning signs with the Wii U and never bought one. It's the first Nintendo console I've not purchased. I'm sure they will release Zelda on the Wii U eventually but I think the priority now is developing the NX version of the game. I'm still bitter about Nintendo doing that with th gamecube, but atleast it ended up getting the superior version of TP.
Pseudo_Sam
Survives without air, food, or water
I still play my WiiU way more than the others. Smash + Splatoon + MK, the multiplayer holy trinity. Shame it's been relegated to a slow death
barneystuta83
Member
Just watching this on Youtube and I had to find the point in this thread that hit the start of the conference.
Incredible
Nintendo 62... Nintendo 63.... Nintendo 64
Incredible
We're not going to see a release next year, so 2017 seems the likely target. In the meantime, they'll do what they can, probably rely on more DLC for their top games on the system, but in terms of new content for Wii U, next year is going to be sparse. They'll just let it sink into oblivion.
I have to say, I think that was the worst e3 presentation that I've seen. I can't remember another that made me disappointed to own a console. Sony gives us shenmue 3, the last guardian, and confirmation of a ff7 remake. Nintendo gives us Mario tennis and a star fox game that looks like a wii game. I didn't have huge expectations for Nintendo this year, but I guess I shouldn't have had any expectations at all.
Seriously. Today was a giant bungle but it's not as if the games look bad.
Some of you guys need to step off the ledge and the rest of you should stop acting as if you own a Wii U to sell.
Nintendo showed off exclusive content and zero Kickstarter campaigns so there's something Sony didn't do.
Empyrean Heaven
Member
So I went back and watched it again, this time without any interference from GAF reactions. Here are my final thoughts:
Positive: Star Fox looks like a ton of fun. The graphics might not be incredible, but the addition of motion gameplay and cinematic sequences could make things very interesting. While I'm a bit confused about the chronology (is it a prequel to 64? He said it's not a sequel or remake) it does look great and I'm excited. Mario Tennis is always fun, and my wife and I are both going to play the hell out of FE Fates, Yoshi WW, Super Mario Maker, and Paper Jam. And while the 3DS Zelda isn't the game we were all hoping for, it should still be a fun game. And Metroid Prime Fed Force actually could be fun too!
Negative: The major problem I had was that a lot of the announcements almost felt like a bit of trolling. We've wanted a Metroid game for so long, and we get.......a 3DS FPS that doesn't even star Samus. We've wanted an Animal Crossing for Wii U and we get...an Amiibo-based board game. These felt, honestly, like borderline insults. Not to mention a ton of filler and things they could have easily saved for the treehouse stuff just made for a boring presentation. And while the Muppets were cute, the segments felt like stupid add ins and weren't as funny as the Robot Chicken stuff last year.
However, there are several Nintendo games I want to buy this holiday season, so if that was Nintendo's mission, then it was accomplished.
So, I'm going to go with a C-. The games were a B, but the presentation was a D-. It wasn't the worst conference Nintendo has ever done (I'm pretty sure nothing will ever beat the holy trinity of suck that was 2003, 2008, and 2012.) but it was disappointing overall, and definitely the worst of the three digital events. Here's hoping that since Nintendo will likely unveil the NX next year they will go back to the conference format.
Positive: Star Fox looks like a ton of fun. The graphics might not be incredible, but the addition of motion gameplay and cinematic sequences could make things very interesting. While I'm a bit confused about the chronology (is it a prequel to 64? He said it's not a sequel or remake) it does look great and I'm excited. Mario Tennis is always fun, and my wife and I are both going to play the hell out of FE Fates, Yoshi WW, Super Mario Maker, and Paper Jam. And while the 3DS Zelda isn't the game we were all hoping for, it should still be a fun game. And Metroid Prime Fed Force actually could be fun too!
Negative: The major problem I had was that a lot of the announcements almost felt like a bit of trolling. We've wanted a Metroid game for so long, and we get.......a 3DS FPS that doesn't even star Samus. We've wanted an Animal Crossing for Wii U and we get...an Amiibo-based board game. These felt, honestly, like borderline insults. Not to mention a ton of filler and things they could have easily saved for the treehouse stuff just made for a boring presentation. And while the Muppets were cute, the segments felt like stupid add ins and weren't as funny as the Robot Chicken stuff last year.
However, there are several Nintendo games I want to buy this holiday season, so if that was Nintendo's mission, then it was accomplished.
So, I'm going to go with a C-. The games were a B, but the presentation was a D-. It wasn't the worst conference Nintendo has ever done (I'm pretty sure nothing will ever beat the holy trinity of suck that was 2003, 2008, and 2012.) but it was disappointing overall, and definitely the worst of the three digital events. Here's hoping that since Nintendo will likely unveil the NX next year they will go back to the conference format.
You must not have seen very many.
Nintendo just shot themselves in the foot.
I don't know how much the rest of you know about Japanese culture (I'm an expert), but honor and shame are huge parts of it. It's not like it is in America where you can become successful by being an asshole. If you screw someone over in Japan, you bring shame to yourself, and the only way to get rid of that shame is repentance.
What this means is the japanese public, after watching this conference, is not going to want to purchase Nintendo games for either system. This is HUGE. You can laugh all you want, but Nintendo has alienated an entire market with this move.
Nintendo, publicly apologize and make another E3 conference or you can kiss your business goodbye.
I don't know how much the rest of you know about Japanese culture (I'm an expert), but honor and shame are huge parts of it. It's not like it is in America where you can become successful by being an asshole. If you screw someone over in Japan, you bring shame to yourself, and the only way to get rid of that shame is repentance.
What this means is the japanese public, after watching this conference, is not going to want to purchase Nintendo games for either system. This is HUGE. You can laugh all you want, but Nintendo has alienated an entire market with this move.
Nintendo, publicly apologize and make another E3 conference or you can kiss your business goodbye.
plasmawave
Banned
Is Kamiya working on this?
If so, congrats Kamiya!
If so, congrats Kamiya!
Yes, they absolutely can. They have like 10 billion dollars. They can keep pumping out spinoffs and amiibo with an actual real game or two each year like they've been doing. Your thinking is short term. Releasing NX too soon will destroy them in the long term.
This poster gets it:
Look into Sega's history Sean, and see how abandoned consoles and releasing too soon went for them.
Edit:
I mean, even forgetting about timing and generations and third parties and marketing--killing Wii U early and launching NX means that NX gets two to three years less R&D time than is typical. How amazing could it possibly be? When do third parties get dev kits?
Based on the small amount of gameplay I've seen of Starfox, there are areas reminiscent of Project Guard, particularly with the little dude that comes out of your ship. His camera view is similar to the view we saw last year with Project Guard.
E the Shaggy
Junior Member
I wonder how much time we'll have before they pull the Wii U's ability to have online play, such as it is?
A year tops?
A year tops?
BertramCooper
Banned
On one hand, the thought of a Nintendo console not getting a true Zelda game is supremely depressing.
But at this point, that's basically what I hope they do. I really don't see much of a point in releasing it for the Wii U anymore. Just bump it to the NX launch and really make that baby sing. (60 FPS please.)
But at this point, that's basically what I hope they do. I really don't see much of a point in releasing it for the Wii U anymore. Just bump it to the NX launch and really make that baby sing. (60 FPS please.)
Wii/DS were only pulled so early because of issues with Gamespy shutting down. Unless something like that happens again, they'll keep it online. For what it's worth, you can still access the Wii Shop Channel, one of their few online services that didn't get shut down with gamespy shutting down. I think that's a good indicator that they won't unnecessarily shut down online services early.
Yes. What softens the blow for this console for me is that it has fun games with so much longevity. So it's not that bad when the quantity is not there. Mario Maker and Xenoblade X will also be games you can easily sink 100+ hours into it seems.
A few things I was hoping for:
New 3DS XL Variations
I was waiting for neat enough design to move up to the "new" 3DS. But I don't think there's a point now. There aren't even many compelling games to upgrade for
Mario Kart 8 DLC
DLC seems like a good strategy in Nintendo really IS in a transitional stage. And people WANT more Mario Kart 8! How much would it have helped this conference to show a Metroid track? And what about some nice Battle courses?
Splatoon info
In the same vein as Mario Kart 8 DLC, this would have helped. I'm hungry for more Splatoon content... and they presumable have it already. Why not talk about it? That August update's coming up, after all.
New 3DS XL Variations
I was waiting for neat enough design to move up to the "new" 3DS. But I don't think there's a point now. There aren't even many compelling games to upgrade for
Mario Kart 8 DLC
DLC seems like a good strategy in Nintendo really IS in a transitional stage. And people WANT more Mario Kart 8! How much would it have helped this conference to show a Metroid track? And what about some nice Battle courses?
Splatoon info
In the same vein as Mario Kart 8 DLC, this would have helped. I'm hungry for more Splatoon content... and they presumable have it already. Why not talk about it? That August update's coming up, after all.
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