I've never been great at handling this kind of black and white arguments, probably because it's all too clear that it's not an argument as much as posturing and flexing. So I apologise in advance if at any point I sound condescending or plain dumb.
I kinda get where you're coming from, and it's definitely a nice and simple position to hold. "The only fact that counts is that he did a heinous thing, so he no longer deserves human treatment". I do hope that you don't think and act the same unidimensional way in real life, though. That tends to backfire or give poor results.
Probably rambling here.
I know most of life isn't black and white. In fact a lot of it is different shades of grey. However, a person has control of their life and if they make such a huge fuck up then yes, I will boil it down to a single event. If a priest helps a thousand people but molests one kid, he's scum. Simple as that. All those good things he did are void to me because that one bad thing overrules. Life isn't about just the good you do, it's the bad too. However, there are very very few things that are like that. People can do what they want with their life and I'm normally a very nonjudgmental person but things like murder, rape, molesting a kid, these things cross that line.
It does look like you are projecting your personal demons into this.
Not really. I've just seen the effect that happens from people like this guy. If it was a girl I knew and it still haunted her from the moment it happened.
To a degree... the psychological scaring of sexual molestation is magnified by the nature of culture. The shame and pain that one deals with does not emerge in a vacuum; it emerges against the backdrop of general shame of sex we have as a society. Hangups about stuff like that; especially when it involves family members.
Irrelevant! It's a terrible act to do in ANY culture. You think a boy being molested in Brazil wouldn't he scared because they are much less hung up about sex and nudity and all that? No. It's not like grabbing a girls arse at a bar, it's a child.
The harm done to the victim must surely be considered in these cases - and if it has been considered, and 18 months is found to be fair by the parties involved... then who are we to cast aspersions on what is most likely a jury driven process?
I met a guy. He killed a guy with a bat, cut him up in the bath and buried him in suitcases. He got 3 years jail. So don't bother putting the jail time into thought because a minor crime can get 15 years and a major one can get 6 months. The justice system is a joke a lot of times.
Sexual crimes are crimes like any other sort. They have their victims, and they have penalties and penance to pay. A society that gets hung up on it and dehumanizes them is a society that has problems with sex in general; and those problems get funneled into the shitheap of the justice system; with people wanting more blood than is justified, and with people forming unhealthy associations with sex that emerge as sex crimes.
The idea that stealing millions of dollars and psychologically, economically scarring families is somehow more kosher than been felt up is or digitally penetrated is kinda a symptom of that sexual hangup that you guys have.
This is utter rubbish. Like something a person learning Psychology or Sociology would say after a few classes when they think they know it all. There are societies in the world that AREN'T as hung up on sex as America, in fact no where near it yet they still considering sexual crimes as some of the worst. It's not just being hung up on sex it's the violation of trust, person space, privacy and many other things it's not just: sex is bad so molesting a kid is worse than it seems.
Also money and items can be replaced. You rob a bank and it's insured. You rob a store, same thing. You aren't going to be haunted by that lost money 50 years down the track. You don't grow up to become a robber just like them because of it. You don't kill yourself or don't trust people anymore because of it. That shit DOES happen with sexual crimes and it's not the culture, it's because a sexual crime violates every part of YOU. Not your car, your wallet, your house but the one thing that is truly yours and can never be replaced.
