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[Witchfinder General]

Blue Toad Murder Files:The mysteries of Little Riddle: 4

God dammit, Edge, why hype this game up so much and gush in previews only to lowball it. Damn, I was going to buy it and play it with the missus.

 

[legend166]

Bill Gates?

Molyneux needs to hide his ball slobbering a bit more.

 

[Phoenix Fang]

WTF?

The game wasn't that fun to begin with in the first place. Glad that they saw it for what it really was ...a mediocre platformer disguised with a dress up gimmick and horrible level modding gimmick.

 

[Slightly Live]

ALSO! There's a huge (A2) Zelda poster in my copy - I don't know if it's subscribers only, but if it is and anybody wants mine, let me know and I'll post it to them (UK only, unless they pay me postage).

I'm in the UK and I'd be glad to take it off your hands.

 

[whatevermort]

I'm in the UK and I'd be glad to take it off your hands.

PM me your address and I'll stick it in the post sometime later today...

 

[Valkyr Junkie]

God dammit, Edge, why hype this game up so much and gush in previews only to lowball it. Damn, I was going to buy it and play it with the missus.

Ya know, you still can, right?

 

[Man God]

Just means it's only actually worth a 5, presumably.

Wrong, a 4. UK is worth +2 Europe is worth +1. :lol

 

[BattleMonkey]

The game wasn't that fun to begin with in the first place. Glad that they saw it for what it really was ...a mediocre platformer disguised with a dress up gimmick and horrible level modding gimmick.

Yet they liked the original, but nice try.

Anyways I can understand not liking the game for it's single player offerings, but to call it's modding abilities horrible is just pathetic.

 

[Monroeski]

Just to add to this, they also had a bunch of industry responses for "Game", "Person" and "Moment" of the decade:

Clint Hocking (Creative director, Ubisoft Montreal):
Person: "The player"

Katsuhiro Harada (Exec Producer, Tekken 6)
Person: "I would prefer to think of teams as important, rather than people"

Evan Wells (Co-president, Naughty Dog)
Person: "Casual Gamers"

Joseph Staten (Writer/Creative Director, Bungie)
Person: "The player"

Cop outs.

 

[Epic Tier 3 Engineer]

Good scores for Gravity Crash and PJS. Love 'em both!

 

[Drkirby]

Also, here's Edge's NEXT MONTH page:

ALSO! There's a huge (A2) Zelda poster in my copy - I don't know if it's subscribers only, but if it is and anybody wants mine, let me know and I'll post it to them (UK only, unless they pay me postage).

Lets DDR!

 

[WrikaWrek]

Decade review results:

Game of the Decade:

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World of Warcraft. Runners-up: GTA III, Half-Life 2, Halo, Resident Evil 4

Hardware of the Decade:

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PlayStation 2. Runners-up: DS, Wii

Developer of the Decade:

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Nintendo. Runners-up: Rockstar North, Valve

Publisher of the Decade:

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Nintendo. Runners-up: Activision Blizzard, Sony

Person of the Decade:

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Satoru Iwata. Runners-up: Shinji Mikami, J Allard

Failure of the Decade:

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Red Ring of Death. Runners-up: PS3's launch, Gizmondo

Game of the Decade gets it right.

Hardware too.

Publisher too i guess.

Person too i think.

Failure too.


Holy shit. Edge fucking rocks at lists.

 

[zoukka]

Decade review results:

Game of the Decade:

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World of Warcraft. Runners-up: GTA III, Half-Life 2, Halo, Resident Evil 4

Hardware of the Decade:

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PlayStation 2. Runners-up: DS, Wii

Developer of the Decade:

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Nintendo. Runners-up: Rockstar North, Valve

Publisher of the Decade:

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Nintendo. Runners-up: Activision Blizzard, Sony

Person of the Decade:

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Satoru Iwata. Runners-up: Shinji Mikami, J Allard

Failure of the Decade:

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Red Ring of Death. Runners-up: PS3's launch, Gizmondo

Wow anyone who disses Edge needs to be beaten. These are fucking spot on.

RE4 <3

 

[domlolz]

The game wasn't that fun to begin with in the first place. Glad that they saw it for what it really was ...a mediocre platformer disguised with a dress up gimmick and horrible level modding gimmick.

hahaha

 

[Kai Dracon]

Uh, okay.

How is it that

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Nintendo is both publisher AND developer of the decade but has no game even NOMINATED for game of the decade? Resident Evil 4 above Mario Galaxy? Really boys?

 

[John]

Game of the Decade:

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World of Warcraft. Runners-up: GTA III, Half-Life 2, Halo, Resident Evil 4

I can't be the only one who thinks there's only one, maybe two good games on this list.

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Really.

 

[Monroeski]

I can't be the only one who thinks there's only one good game on this list.

Yes, I'm feeling suicidal this morning, thanks for asking.

Well, it has to be either HL2 or RE4 that you're thinking of. BUT WHICH ONE?!?!?

 

[John]

Well, it has to be either HL2 or RE4 that you're thinking of. BUT WHICH ONE?!?!?

Yep, those two. But which one is GREAT?

 

[DeadGzuz]

Little Big Planet PSP: 6

WTF? Oh, it's Edge, that's like a 9 for sony exclusives.

 

[OldJadedGamer]

Tony Hawk Ride is too high.

WTF? Oh, it's Edge, that's like a 9 for sony exclusives.

Except you know that Little Big Planet not only scored a 10/10 with them it earned Game of the Year. But, Edge is of course biased against Sony exclusives.

 

[jay]

WTF? Oh, it's Edge, that's like a 9 for sony exclusives.

So was their 10 for the PS3 LBP code for a 13?

 

[Lagspike_exe]

Except you know that Little Big Planet not only scored a 10/10 with them it earned Game of the Year. But, Edge is of course biased against Sony exclusives.

Hasn't someone posted a chart that clearly shows that EDGE's X360 reviews are much closer to metacritic average than the PS3 exclusive reviews (which were significantly lower than metacritic)?

 

[DeadGzuz]

So was their 10 for the PS3 LBP code for a 13?

Should be. Great game.

Except you know that Little Big Planet not only scored a 10/10 with them it earned Game of the Year. But, Edge is of course biased against Sony exclusives.

Bias is statistical, not a single data point. Someone ran the numbers, Edge was like three sigma out from the mean against the PS3. One 10/10 does not erase years of bias, stop being a stooge.

 

[jetjevons]

Decade review results:

Game of the Decade:

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World of Warcraft. Runners-up: GTA III, Half-Life 2, Halo, Resident Evil 4

Hardware of the Decade:

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PlayStation 2. Runners-up: DS, Wii

Developer of the Decade:

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Nintendo. Runners-up: Rockstar North, Valve

Publisher of the Decade:

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Nintendo. Runners-up: Activision Blizzard, Sony

Person of the Decade:

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Satoru Iwata. Runners-up: Shinji Mikami, J Allard

Failure of the Decade:

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Red Ring of Death. Runners-up: PS3's launch, Gizmondo

Hard to argue with this. Though personally I feel like Wii Sports belongs more on that list than RE4.

 

[njean777]

seems like Edge uses the whole scale unlike most sites or magazines.

 

[ShogunX]

I can't be the only one who thinks there's only one, maybe two good games on this list.

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Really.

Your bat shit Insane if you don't believe every single game on that list is of a high quality. I really hope your not letting an opinion get in the way of fact.

You dont have to be a fan of something to appreciate how good it is.

Bias is statistical, not a single data point. Someone ran the numbers, Edge was like three sigma out from the mean against the PS3. One 10/10 does not erase years of bias, stop being a stooge.

 

[RuneFactoryFanboy]

I think that's an awfully low score for Pokemon Rumble. Basically they are saying it's average?

I thought it was really fun.

 

[John]

Your bat shit Insane if you don't believe every single game on that list is of a high quality. I really hope your not letting an opinion get in the way of fact.

You dont have to be a fan of something to appreciate how good it is.

"Facts" on opinions? What are the facts?

 

[ShogunX]

"Facts" on opinions? What are the facts?

Its a fact that every game on the Game of the decade list is a high quality game that deserves it's spot on the list.

 

[Haunted]

Looking at the games I played from that review list, that sounds about right.

Nothing to complain about this time.


edit: talking about the reviews, not the decade bs.

Judging by the bad "Saboteur" scores in both magazines, the game didn't turn out so hot?

It's not a bad game, but it's obliterated by the competition.

 

[toythatkills]

I think that's an awfully low score for Pokemon Rumble. Basically they are saying it's average?

I thought it was really fun.

Below average

 

[DeathbyVolcano]

what's that interview with Aonuma about?

 

[Noshino]

Decade review results:

Game of the Decade:

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World of Warcraft. Runners-up: GTA III, Half-Life 2, Halo, Resident Evil 4

Hardware of the Decade:

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PlayStation 2. Runners-up: DS, Wii

Developer of the Decade:

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Nintendo. Runners-up: Rockstar North, Valve

Publisher of the Decade:

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Nintendo. Runners-up: Activision Blizzard, Sony

Person of the Decade:

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Satoru Iwata. Runners-up: Shinji Mikami, J Allard

Failure of the Decade:

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Red Ring of Death. Runners-up: PS3's launch, Gizmondo

As much as I loved

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Nintendo during the NGC

days, I really think that Publisher and Person picks belong to Capcom and Kamiya.

I understand the reasoning for most of these, except for Hardware. For numerous reasons it should have been the DS, not the PS2, awarded "Hardware of the Decade". But as always with EDGE, the scores/choices are useless without the text to show their (usually well considered) argument.

Sorry, but for the most part, thing that that the DS has done, the PS2 has done better. Hell, I was even thinking that the advertising campaign behind the DS could be one aspect where it was better, but then I remembered that Sony delivered a hell of a campaign for the PS2. It really is hard to argue about this pick.

 

[rpmurphy]

Bill Gates?

Molyneux needs to hide his ball slobbering a bit more.

Bill Gates is so 1990's.

 

[John]

Its a fact that every game on the Game of the decade list is a high quality game that deserves it's spot on the list.

That's not how opinions work, man.

 

[Barkley's Justice]

i'm so behind in my edge reading

 

[Firestorm]

What is wrong with Avatar? I was going to buy it for the mindless fun.

Some things wrong, some things good. Edge 5 = Average so it's just an average game. Nothing noteworthy either way. Worth playing if you have interest.

 

[Pimpbaa]

The Saboteur: 5

Really? REALLY? These guys fucking suck so goddamn much.

 

[Corky]

Indeed... all of these scores are spot on IMHO.

you...you played ALL of the games in that list?

 

[lsslave]

Based on other reviewers (quality subjective) and the fact that Edge gets off on really ripping apart games I have to ask for once...

Do they genuinely give bad reviews (as in dislike gaming? Dragon Age score is coming to mind as a recent one)

OR

Do they do it so that they seem hardcore or niche?

I know people are thinking "well 5 isn't bad its average" but that isn't the way that gaming reviews are done, 5 is considered bad in gaming reviews and this publication has no problem giving 8-10 for the games they do like (which I usually dislike anyhow) but it definitely seems like they are doing it just for appearances.

 

[Furret]

Based on other reviewers (quality subjective) and the fact that Edge gets off on really ripping apart games I have to ask for once...

Do they genuinely give bad reviews (as in dislike gaming? Dragon Age score is coming to mind as a recent one)

OR

Do they do it so that they seem hardcore or niche?

I know people are thinking "well 5 isn't bad its average" but that isn't the way that gaming reviews are done, 5 is considered bad in gaming reviews and this publication has no problem giving 8-10 for the games they do like (which I usually dislike anyhow) but it definitely seems like they are doing it just for appearances.

The fact that other reviews consider 5 a bad score is their problem, not Edge's.

 

[ShogunX]

Based on other reviewers (quality subjective) and the fact that Edge gets off on really ripping apart games I have to ask for once...

Do they genuinely give bad reviews (as in dislike gaming? Dragon Age score is coming to mind as a recent one)

OR

Do they do it so that they seem hardcore or niche?

I know people are thinking "well 5 isn't bad its average" but that isn't the way that gaming reviews are done, 5 is considered bad in gaming reviews and this publication has no problem giving 8-10 for the games they do like (which I usually dislike anyhow) but it definitely seems like they are doing it just for appearances.

Most of the time you have to read the text that goes with the number. I believe people say Edge uses the whole scale as in 1-10 therefore an Average game should be hitting the 5 mark not the 7-8 it seems to on other gaming website's/publications.

 

[Kevtones]

Pokemon Rumble deserves better

 

[lsslave]

The fact that other reviews consider 5 a bad score is their problem, not Edge's.

You have to condition to the market.

If I find out that Cola doesn't taste like what people think it tastes like, release it, who is going to have the 'wrong cola' in the market? Pepsi/Coke or Me?

The market has been conditioned that Cola tastes this way, therefore to release a cola I have to follow the market or else it won't fit in with this market.

Reviews are the same way, to the people reading their reviews they are giving Good and GREAT games "bad" scores, and the way you put it sounds once again they are doing it for image.

 

[ShogunX]

You have to condition to the market.

If I find out that Cola doesn't taste like what people think it tastes like, release it, who is going to have the 'wrong cola' in the market? Pepsi/Coke or Me?

The market has been conditioned that Cola tastes this way, therefore to release a cola I have to follow the market or else it won't fit in with this market.

Reviews are the same way, to the people reading their reviews they are giving Good and GREAT games "bad" scores, and the way you put it sounds once again they are doing it for image.

What the fuck are you on about?

 

[lsslave]

What the fuck are you on about?

A good example of adjusting to the market, it was actually very understandable in my post if you had bothered to read it instead of just kind of looking at it and jumping to that.

I asked a simple question, I did not expect there to be such a big deal over a magazine's scores I was just curious as to why they are so detached from the market. Reviews haven't mattered to me in a LOOOOONG time but this was curiosity based.

 

[Huggers]

You have to condition to the market.

If I find out that Cola doesn't taste like what people think it tastes like, release it, who is going to have the 'wrong cola' in the market? Pepsi/Coke or Me?

The market has been conditioned that Cola tastes this way, therefore to release a cola I have to follow the market or else it won't fit in with this market.

Reviews are the same way, to the people reading their reviews they are giving Good and GREAT games "bad" scores, and the way you put it sounds once again they are doing it for image.

Could it be that EDGE have it right in giving an average game a 5 and everyone dishing out 7-8s for average games is wrong.

To put it more in terms you seem familiar;

Say for example, Coke and Pepsi both used artificial sugar in their coke and that was the norm, even though the correct way was to use proper sugar, it wouldn't mean all other brands had to copy Coke/Pepsi

:lol What the fuck did I just write

 

[Alpha_eX]

Good score for Maestro! Jump In Music, I imported the European version and really enjoyed it, second play through is a lot more difficult.

EDIT: Can someone post a pic of the wall chart?

 

[Curufinwe]

I asked a simple question, I did not expect there to be such a big deal over a magazine's scores I was just curious as to why they are so detached from the market. Reviews haven't mattered to me in a LOOOOONG time but this was curiosity based.

Their market is subscribers and other people who buy Edge and actually read the reviews.

They don't give a fuck about people on the internet who only look at the scores, never read the text, and think that 7/10 should be average.

 

[Firestorm]

You have to condition to the market.

If I find out that Cola doesn't taste like what people think it tastes like, release it, who is going to have the 'wrong cola' in the market? Pepsi/Coke or Me?

The market has been conditioned that Cola tastes this way, therefore to release a cola I have to follow the market or else it won't fit in with this market.

Reviews are the same way, to the people reading their reviews they are giving Good and GREAT games "bad" scores, and the way you put it sounds once again they are doing it for image.

Some teachers give out As for just doing your work (IGN) and other teachers think average work deserves an average grade (C). Most teachers give a B as average so they don't piss off the parents (publishers).