Nervous Hamster
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Too bad for Edge.
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Edge won't be releasing a review of Death Stranding
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Gamernyc78
Banned
Why don't you play it yourself and find out for yourself what it deserves instead of making assumptions and being such a fanboy/antifanboy
Verchod
Member
I like what I like. It doesn't change to satisfy or antagonize others. I neither dislike or like him or his work. It's a style that doesn't interest me.
I have read people being annoyed at others for the idea of not liking this new game of kojima's. Some people seem certain it'll be great because it's him.
burningheart
Neo Member
“They are paid to review a game, and should finish it before they release a review of it.”
Pretty clear to me. You were the one shifting goalposts with an extreme-to-the-point-of-irrelevance analogy.
Northeastmonk
Gold Member
I have a feeling like people are going to run circles around this game and someone is going to find ways to finish it super fast. I feel like it shows their incompetence more than it shows them as some superior critic.
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Spukc
always chasing the next thrill
Bullshit
Go finish any random ubi soft game.
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mcjmetroid
Member
I would if I was paid to do it.
Just finish the main quest you don't have to 100% it for fucks sake..
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Spukc
always chasing the next thrill
Dude i never finished a single modern open world ubisoft games.
After 25 hours to 30 i am done.
I imagine dead stranding to be pretty samey and at a certain point it def is ok to write a review.
Yall acting like this dude played the game for 5 min. Then ragequit.
I will prolly get DS when there is a sale.
But i am afraid of how diverse this game actually is. And frustrating with that QWOP stuff
mcjmetroid
Member
Ya but again you're not paid to finish these games, it's completely up to you whether you're bored and want to stop.
Even the death stranding IGN review as negative as it was said the game changes it's style about halfway through when it gets to a snow location. It's also a Kojima game you have absolutely no idea what to expect from him gameplay wise.
The other argument in general I'll make here is games like Mass Effect 3 which had an ending that tanked the game for a lot of people and Metal Gear Solid 5 as well and that game kept getting 10s but no mention of the poor ending that I could find.. literally an unfinished ending. Did reviewers play these games through?
I'm not saying Death Stranding is gonna be good, I'm fairly sure I'll hate it based on what I've seen but this is more about the reviewer needing to finish at least the main quest of a game to review it. If they cannot do that then gaming reviews are not fit for purpose.
While I appreciate the honesty of EDGE, it's concerning that if a magazine can't find the time to finish a game on time what hope do websites have when they need to publish game reviews on the hour the embargo lifts.
And if they don't finish it? How far do they even play the game?
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Nitty_Grimes
Made a crappy phPBB forum once ... once.
I suppose the three pages they would have used for the review they can use up on another spunkfest on how good breath of the wild is.
Senhua
Member
So don't review the games and only do the finished one then. How hard is that?
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tassletine
Member
He's not paid to do that actually. He's paid to write.
Articles get cancelled the whole time. People work in tandem in a company, if you have no experience of that. This would have been an editorial decision.
tassletine
Member
ethomaz
Banned
Excuses for unprofessionalism lol
Kharnivore2099
Member
I'd say most actually review them without finishing them. Which is totally fine.
grainflavour
Member
Why all the fuss? They reviewed the game without a score to prevent breaching the embargo. The reviewer did not want to waste another 20 hours of his life playing a game he considered to be rubbish. Good for him.
ethomaz
Banned
He should look for another profession too
grainflavour
Member
He should look for another profession too
He is the editor of the magazine and therefore can decide what they publish. He clearly thinks the game is shit and not willing to invest another 20 hours on top of the hefty 40 hours he invested in order to meet the rather arcane embargo criteria.
ethomaz
Banned
Being editor of the magazine just make it more unprofessional.
He has to give the example, have a high standard with more responsibility.
It is your job to review games no matter if it is bad or good... or if you are feeling enthusiastic or not.
Like somebody said before he is not a journalist but a blogger... so I never expected Edge's quality to be that low... maybe it is me that have put Edge in a high standard.
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Sander Cohen
Member
When I first read this story I was honestly stunned. Never heard of anything similar. I mean, one thing is to get bad scores but for reputable reviewer to ditch it few hours in because it was so unbearable, that’s ultimate humiliation for Kojima.
It reminded me of this book we had to read in school of our well-known writer. First time in my life, I couldn’t do it, it was so unbearably dull. Much of the class agreed basically so I at least felt better.
I can’t imagine someone not being payed for it, going through this slog of a game.
It reminded me of this book we had to read in school of our well-known writer. First time in my life, I couldn’t do it, it was so unbearably dull. Much of the class agreed basically so I at least felt better.
I can’t imagine someone not being payed for it, going through this slog of a game.
MagnesG
Banned
For the record though, he played a substantial amount of the game, about 40 hours before stopping.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
mejin
Member
And he could not complete it before 40 hours?
sucks at gaming and journalism confirmed.
brian0057
Banned
He totally could have. He just didn't want to.And he could not complete it before 40 hours?
"Print deadline was a factor, but we ran out of enthusiasm long before we ran out of time."
Hence why they're releasing a score-less preview instead of a full review.
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Why did one spend 40 hours not progressing through the story?
Sounds like either BS, or self inflicted masochism.
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Paltheos
Member
It seems pretty fair imo. If you're being provided a copy of a product before release date, you should at least finish it before providing a verdict... is what I want to say, but the shit realities we live in of being the first out of a barn to maximize clicks (not to mention the sheer amount of content out there) complicates matters.
For better or for worse this is on Kojima's production team.
I imagine this is tougher in general for a print magazine. Online you can just release whenever.
ethomaz
Banned
The reviewers copies reached the "reviewers" 3 weeks before the embargo ends.
Mozza
Member
what a stupid example of bad journalism
Or stupid limitations placed on reviewers by a pretentious developer.
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Mozza
Member
Exactly, if the reviewer thought the game was poor and boring after playing a decent amount of it, I can hardly see how the last part would redeem it all that much, and I feel it's a silly embargo in the first place, almost like the developers themselves had some issue with the games structure in some way.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Or stupid limitations placed on reviewers by a pretentious developer.
Tough job.
Javthusiast
Banned
Edge also won't be releasing magazines in the near future so who cares, one less angry review to drag the score down, lol.
thelastword
Banned
So if CNN sends you to cover a Trump briefing, you will come back to them and say he is too boring, you couldn't slog it, he was too full of himself and besides you hate Trump, so you left mid conference?Or stupid limitations placed on reviewers by a pretentious developer.
What a world, we live..... This thread is ripe with potential employees you want to avoid like a plague..... There should be, "a do not recruit sign" posted here....
Mozza
Member
Sweeping statement based on no personal knowledge of anybody on here, and to be honest review embargo's are a shady practice in the first instance, a developer with a good game should not fear a reviewer playing all or part of a game, the quality of a good product will always shine through, I personally applaud any reviewer that does not wan't to dance to a developers embargo whims.
thelastword
Banned
Well tbh, no one knows anyone here personally...…..We judge and respond based on what is written and the thoughts and ideologies expressed......
In no way can I see someone not finishing their work and complaining endlessly with this level of entitlement a good character trait,,,,
Hey what do you do?: I review games for a living, it can be really frustrating at times, sometimes I cant even go on....
Guy who cleans/unclogs sewers for a living, stone masons, oil rig drillers: OK, I can see the frustration.., wouldn't want to be you.
Rolling_Start
Banned
There has to be a cutoff point where you stop investing time in something. Businesses do this all the time.
40 hours is a long time. Long enough to assess the core gameplay, and report on what the experience of playing the game is like.
That said, I didn't realise how terrible Mass Effect 3 really was until the last 30 minutes.
40 hours is a long time. Long enough to assess the core gameplay, and report on what the experience of playing the game is like.
That said, I didn't realise how terrible Mass Effect 3 really was until the last 30 minutes.
What's so humiliating in this? Nobody even knows who this guy is.
Sony should just cease giving this magazine any further codes if they can't be arsed to do their job, that's all
Fuz
Banned
Go review Cuphead then.
Alexios
Cores, shaders and BIOS oh my!
Games can fall flat as you keep playing, maybe the opposite can happen too, for them to be redeemed by something. They should finish games. Maybe if all MGSV reviewers had finished the game we'd have different final scores, instead it's one of the top rated games ever.
Or just do a preview only for every game they don't finish. They still can write the exact same article just not number it and make it clear they never finished it or never got far. Wasn't it a thing from reviewers, that they didn't wanna just rate shit on scales and have people read their text?
It happens all the time they just want the attention from a big game hence the big announcement of how the game and its creator are so full of shit they won't review it and just make sure to tell us their review of the product is "it's shit" just without calling it a review.
But hey they already told you they think it's super shit so you don't need to buy the issue anyway, lol. But I'm sure they've hooked a lot of people into buying it to see the hard work of that honest reviewer who was forbidden from scoring a big shit game.
Or just do a preview only for every game they don't finish. They still can write the exact same article just not number it and make it clear they never finished it or never got far. Wasn't it a thing from reviewers, that they didn't wanna just rate shit on scales and have people read their text?
It happens all the time they just want the attention from a big game hence the big announcement of how the game and its creator are so full of shit they won't review it and just make sure to tell us their review of the product is "it's shit" just without calling it a review.
But hey they already told you they think it's super shit so you don't need to buy the issue anyway, lol. But I'm sure they've hooked a lot of people into buying it to see the hard work of that honest reviewer who was forbidden from scoring a big shit game.
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Sander Cohen
Member
Imagine the pain he went through all the way, having committed so much time only to succumb close to the finish line. I honestly feel for the guy, it’s his job after all. Could this be dullest game ever?
I guess only MMO grinding could be worse.
SmoothRunningGun
Member
This is pure laziness. Most people have to complete their job whether they like it or not.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
The reviewer probably spent 40 hrs of mindnumbing fedex quests than steamrolling through the story.
It's like Skyrim or Fallout.
1. Some people can't be bothered doing the 150 repetitive side quests, so they focus on the main quest which is efficient and can be beaten in probably 20 hrs if you really wanted to.
2. But some people just want to muck around the whole map having fun just discovering new locations and clearing out random buildings or dungeons. And don't give shit about the main quest
Looks like the game reviewer is someone who gets bored easy, but still stuck to doing boring shit, and burned himself out so bad he couldn't even muster the energy to do a review............ OR was a pussy and bailed on giving a shit review in fear of Sony/Kojima repercussions and ad revenue threats.
Either way he bailed ship, in hopes people just blow it over. Tard.
It's like Skyrim or Fallout.
1. Some people can't be bothered doing the 150 repetitive side quests, so they focus on the main quest which is efficient and can be beaten in probably 20 hrs if you really wanted to.
2. But some people just want to muck around the whole map having fun just discovering new locations and clearing out random buildings or dungeons. And don't give shit about the main quest
Looks like the game reviewer is someone who gets bored easy, but still stuck to doing boring shit, and burned himself out so bad he couldn't even muster the energy to do a review............ OR was a pussy and bailed on giving a shit review in fear of Sony/Kojima repercussions and ad revenue threats.
Either way he bailed ship, in hopes people just blow it over. Tard.
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MagnesG
Banned
He can't review the game, it's the embargo.
Mozza
Member
Well tbh, no one knows anyone here personally...…..We judge and respond based on what is written and the thoughts and ideologies expressed......
In no way can I see someone not finishing their work and complaining endlessly with this level of entitlement a good character trait,,,,
Hey what do you do?: I review games for a living, it can be really frustrating at times, sometimes I cant even go on....
Guy who cleans/unclogs sewers for a living, stone masons, oil rig drillers: OK, I can see the frustration.., wouldn't want to be you.
Depends on the task in hand, and I do feel this has far more to do with the embargo rather than pure laziness.