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EGM 216 - June 2007
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Well, in the P2 case it became problematic after about 2 days I'd say. So I guess if you're playing every few hours or once per day on a handheld, or the game does not require you to remember as much, it won't be a big problem. I still prefer consoles for RPGs - there's plenty to fall back to in my argumentation, like the control ergonomics (I got cramps after playing Gurumin or the Castlevanias on DS for prolonged periods), the size of the screen, the immersion in more story-driven games, as well as all the technical factors of course. So bah :lolPureauthor said:
This bears repeating. Strategy RPGs with PS2-level graphics, perhaps even in HD, here we come!TONX said:
Pureauthor said:
What's surprising about it? I don't think Etrian Odyssey will be reviewed well by any of the bigger sites/magazines. It just isn't the kind of game that has wide appeal and it certainly lacks all the qualities of a game that can just be picked up and played (which is all reviewers seem to care at times).
SolidSnakex
Member
Durante said:
They should get Vanillaware to work on the graphics engine.
Pureauthor
Member
Durante said:
Oh. Well, when we talk 'pauses' in handhelds, we usually mean an hour, tops. :lol
I just forgot that games from genres I like aren't always rated favourably by the mainstream, 'kay?
Vyse The Legend
Member
Hey, Sakaguchi! Why don't you give up your kung-fu grip on your part of the Chrono Trigger IP rights, so Square can give me a CT port for DS? Thanks.
EndWar
-Directed by Michael de Plater (formerly of Creative Assembly, where he worked on Total War)
-Inspired by... Madden
-No explicit multiplayer or single-player modes. 1 global campaign map for both game types
-Three factions: U.S. Joint Strike Force, European Enforcers, and Russian Spetsnaz
-Persistent Risk-like online campaign map. Everyone plays in this single, global campaign. The war ends when one faction conquers the majority of territories and then a new campaign starts.
-Each campaign can be different. They give the example that if America is conquered in one campaign, they can start the next campaign "to liberate U.S. soil with a massive new 'D-Day' landing on the East coast."
-"[The Battle for Middle-earth II] was a test case for exactly what we didn't want to do" (Referring to them taking a traditional PC RTS and re-mapping the controls"
-"The first thing we did was ban any reference to the PC. We were determined to design it from the ground up for console."
-Camera is always attached to a unit. The idea is to remove the god-like vision found in RTS games by having a more realistic line of sight.
-You can, however, toggle a full battlefield map where you can give your orders.
-Voice-command system that can control every aspect of the game
-7 unit types: Riflemen, Engineers, Tanks, Transports, Helicopters, Artillery, and Command Vehicles
-Limit of 12 units/squads in battle
-Unit costs are all equal
-No "magic", meaning for something to get to the battlefield it needs to be delivered, etc.
-"Everything is destructible"
-On units: "It's a battalion that you own. You can personalize it. You can customize it. You can choose its motto and its heraldry. You can change its compositions and abilities.
-If your soldiers die, they are gone for good along with their upgrades. If they live they gain experience & medals.
-"Nothing in EndWar seems more detailed and obsessed over than the surprisingly varied way soldiers act (and react) on the battlefield."
-For example: "Squadrons of heavily armed soldiers, when ordered to a cluster of firebombed cars, will automatically take cover in different ways, periodically taking potshots at the enemy through windows and over hoods. If a soldier gets shot, one of his squad mates will drag him back to safety"
-Directed by Michael de Plater (formerly of Creative Assembly, where he worked on Total War)
-Inspired by... Madden
-No explicit multiplayer or single-player modes. 1 global campaign map for both game types
-Three factions: U.S. Joint Strike Force, European Enforcers, and Russian Spetsnaz
-Persistent Risk-like online campaign map. Everyone plays in this single, global campaign. The war ends when one faction conquers the majority of territories and then a new campaign starts.
-Each campaign can be different. They give the example that if America is conquered in one campaign, they can start the next campaign "to liberate U.S. soil with a massive new 'D-Day' landing on the East coast."
-"[The Battle for Middle-earth II] was a test case for exactly what we didn't want to do" (Referring to them taking a traditional PC RTS and re-mapping the controls"
-"The first thing we did was ban any reference to the PC. We were determined to design it from the ground up for console."
-Camera is always attached to a unit. The idea is to remove the god-like vision found in RTS games by having a more realistic line of sight.
-You can, however, toggle a full battlefield map where you can give your orders.
-Voice-command system that can control every aspect of the game
-7 unit types: Riflemen, Engineers, Tanks, Transports, Helicopters, Artillery, and Command Vehicles
-Limit of 12 units/squads in battle
-Unit costs are all equal
-No "magic", meaning for something to get to the battlefield it needs to be delivered, etc.
-"Everything is destructible"
-On units: "It's a battalion that you own. You can personalize it. You can customize it. You can choose its motto and its heraldry. You can change its compositions and abilities.
-If your soldiers die, they are gone for good along with their upgrades. If they live they gain experience & medals.
-"Nothing in EndWar seems more detailed and obsessed over than the surprisingly varied way soldiers act (and react) on the battlefield."
-For example: "Squadrons of heavily armed soldiers, when ordered to a cluster of firebombed cars, will automatically take cover in different ways, periodically taking potshots at the enemy through windows and over hoods. If a soldier gets shot, one of his squad mates will drag him back to safety"
MasterMFauli
Banned
Wii is dead it seems, looking at EGM´s tests.
Ok, supposing that they mean the Wii:
WHY-Square-Enix, should i buy a spin-pff of KingdomHearts, when i´ll NEVER get to understand the story without buying a PS2 and perhaps PS3?!?
This is so retarded.
Give us KH1+2-Collection and KH3, but not a spin-off, that will make no sense at all story-wise for Wii-gamer.
sangreal said:
Ok, supposing that they mean the Wii:
WHY-Square-Enix, should i buy a spin-pff of KingdomHearts, when i´ll NEVER get to understand the story without buying a PS2 and perhaps PS3?!?
This is so retarded.
Give us KH1+2-Collection and KH3, but not a spin-off, that will make no sense at all story-wise for Wii-gamer.
Walter Matthau
Member
Lowest game of month score ever...? Nice rumors.
FateBreaker
Member
sangreal said:
:lol :lol :lol :lol
Very nice.
Pureauthor
Member
MasterMFauli said:
This is assuming that SE thinks that this KH spin-off will sell to the Nintendo hardcore that missed out on a PS2 last-gen.
Square aims their game at mass-market (or, mass market insofar as the videogame market goes). Their target lies in the big install base, not in console specific gamers. And the 'big install base' is mostly likely going to the Wii at this point.
chibcicylist
Banned
Pureauthor said:
Not that I think this spinoff will come to the Wii or anything but don't forget teh kiddy. Teh kiddy. Don't forget teh kiddy and Disney.
Vyse The Legend
Member
sangreal said:
Chain of Memories wasn't really a spin-off. It actually directly continued the story from KH1 and led right into KH2. So, the whole "why would Square put a spin-off on a console without the original games" argument is pretty much void.
Even so, I imagine a spin-off would mean a game in the KH universe sans Sora, Rikku, etc. If it's on a Nintendo console, then expect some Nintendo characters.
grandjedi6
Master of the Google Search
GAF <3 Phoenix Wright
Phoenix Wright gets mediocre scores
GAF still <3 Phoenix Wright
GAF <3 Etrian Odyssey
Etrian Odyssey gets a bad score
GAF still <3 Etrian Odyssey
Phoenix Wright gets mediocre scores
GAF still <3 Phoenix Wright
GAF <3 Etrian Odyssey
Etrian Odyssey gets a bad score
GAF still <3 Etrian Odyssey
SabinFigaro
Member
Dawn of Mana - 4.5/5.0/4.0
Completely expected, but I'm still disappointed. I guess I need no further indication that the Mana series has entirely run out of steam.
Etrian Odyssey - 8.0/4.0/6.0
....I'll probably buy it anyways...
Completely expected, but I'm still disappointed. I guess I need no further indication that the Mana series has entirely run out of steam.
Etrian Odyssey - 8.0/4.0/6.0
....I'll probably buy it anyways...
citrus lump
Banned
MasterMFauli said:
Because it'll have Nintendo characters instead of Disney ones?
Tyrannical
Banned
You can just about bet it's a PS3 port of the last 360 DOA. With NG Sigma done, it wouldn't be a shock to see them do another PS3 port.
TONX said:
Something just occured to me. Wouldn't it make more sense for this game to be distributed/delivered over PSN rather than Blu Ray?
For a title like this, I imagine that PSN would make alot more sense rather than using a Blu Ray disc, the majority of which could go unused.
Durante said:
Agreed. I think this early in the game it's likely that $25/30 will be many consumers limit to downloadable gaming prices. For some smaller titles a retail/download combination might work, but not for the majority of releases.
I don't think it's practical from a business or technical point of view. Seeing as how Sony first party games are going to start needed the 50 gig Blu Ray discs in the next year or so I can't see anyone wanting to wait a week for their 30+gig game to download via PSN.
I think Sony's retail partners would also rather see a clear divide between what can be bought in shops and what can be downloaded.
Firestreak
Member
If I was Square I'd base my Kingdom Hearts 3 port based on the budget. If it's a relatively cheap game compared to FF13, I'd stick it on PS3, re-use the white engine and hope that KH3 helps to boost install base so that FF13 gets more sales.
If it's a huge investment than Wii would be nice for guaranteed return on the investment.
If it's a huge investment than Wii would be nice for guaranteed return on the investment.
Kinda sounds like EndWar is Full Spectrum Warrior, but with individual soldier classes. It also blatantly rips off the persistent online war concept from Chromehounds (3 nations fight until one wins, then the war restarts.... hrm... ), but that's cool since it was the most awesome thing about CH.
Hey, let's make a bet. If their PS3 Disgaea (assuming it's actually coming) doesn't render the background 3D stuff in 720p I'll stop complaining about portable RPGing. What can you hold against that?ethelred said:
In all seriousness, do you really believe they wouldn't render their 3D levels in HD for a PS3 game? It doesn't cost them anything.
The Kingdom Hearts rumors..is ..well, expected..and goes along with all the rumors floating around...
-Disney obtaining the Kingdom Hearts 'franchise' from Square
-Nomura saying that the 3rd game, (probably) is not going to be called Kingdom Hearts
-Disney and Nintendo making a game together
In some ways, it could be something big...if done right, maybe even bigger than the original series.
Disney + Final Fantasy characters was great, though many ignored who the heck was Vivi..and things like that.
But Disney + Nintendo characters...is something that many will recognize...more if in the cover it shows Mickey Mouse and Super Mario standing together...hehehehehe..
So maybe, in the end what the Wii/DS are going to get is their own spinoff of the Kingdom Hearts series..with the Wiimote being used mostly as a keyblade.
-Disney obtaining the Kingdom Hearts 'franchise' from Square
-Nomura saying that the 3rd game, (probably) is not going to be called Kingdom Hearts
-Disney and Nintendo making a game together
In some ways, it could be something big...if done right, maybe even bigger than the original series.
Disney + Final Fantasy characters was great, though many ignored who the heck was Vivi..and things like that.
But Disney + Nintendo characters...is something that many will recognize...more if in the cover it shows Mickey Mouse and Super Mario standing together...hehehehehe..
So maybe, in the end what the Wii/DS are going to get is their own spinoff of the Kingdom Hearts series..with the Wiimote being used mostly as a keyblade.
Hearty to me does not mean "has a nice heart." I think of a "hearty vegetable" or a "hearty soup." It's rich or something.
Wii isn't really what I would consider hearty in the traditional sense of the term. When I hear the word hearty, I think of a lumberjack. Wii I would describe more as "light" perhaps.
Wii isn't really what I would consider hearty in the traditional sense of the term. When I hear the word hearty, I think of a lumberjack. Wii I would describe more as "light" perhaps.
I'd expect that PS3 DoA to be a port of DoA 4 with some minor additions. I really think that Team Ninja is more interested in porting their previous titles around than building new AAA products. I enjoyed DoA 4 though, and actually think the series gets too much unwarranted hate...a PS3 port could possibly open a lot of people up to the series, so it could be beneficial to them to make a PS3 version.
Dude. That fully qualifies itself as a DOA sequel. Or do we live on different planets? I like the DOA series but I wish the emphasis would not be about featuring giant boobed japanese girls. Give me more ninjas, bad ass dudes with deeper fighting systems. I can settle with 3 giant boobed chicks... but 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, is just ridiculous.