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Elisabeth Hasselbeck wonders why BLM hasn't been classified as a hate group.
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quickwhips
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I wonder if he is self hating or never grew up poor so he looks at it from another perspective that most black people never saw? I thought it was fucked imho.
Something something white people something something
Wow... First article I see, something about ISIS and planned parenthood "in merger talks"... Just...
Kinda like the Koch brothers are for liberals.
What the fucking fuck
Omnipunctual Godot
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How paternalistic.
The census puts the African American population at approximately 41.7 million Americans.
You should not be surprised that at least 1 of those ~42 million people is 1) reasonably articulate and 2) conservative on these particular issues. If even 1% of the African American population agrees with him (and that should easily be true), that's 420,000 black people in the US who are stridently against the BLM movement.
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It sucks because here in Texas they're using the death of a local sheriff to try and hang it around the neck of BLM and those calling for accountability in law enforcement.
The Spoony Hou
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Hey, guys, can we classify Christians as a hate group? I've seem plenty of hate for homosexuals.
That was always goign to be part of trying to let the world know black people are being murdered like dogs while police get off with slaps on the wrist, if any. Any and all excuses will be used do deny minorities. Im so sick of people saying herp derp "ALL LIVES MATTER!" It just literally announces to the world that you haven't a single fuck to give about what exactly the problem is, and have assumed some negro-hive-mind of ...black lives are more important than others...?
KKK straight up was already a Protestant Christian terrorist hate group.
shits spineless as fuck.
The Spoony Hou
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But that's only a sub-sect of Christians. If I call every Christian that hates homosexuals a KKK member I'm not generalizing enough.
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thepotatoman
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A memo must have went out to all of fox news to push this story because they've been talking about it nonstop, often going back to last year's video when a small crowd of protesters did the "what do we want? Dead cops." chant.
It's not exactly a secret that BlackLivesMatter isn't a fan of cops, but this is a clear attempt to label everyone in the entire movement as wanting to see cops die in a way that's completely and totally unfair.
I know it's common for both sides to sometimes take the worst of the worst and say "see, this is what they all believe", but it's really going too far when you're saying they're all for cold blooded murder.
It's not exactly a secret that BlackLivesMatter isn't a fan of cops, but this is a clear attempt to label everyone in the entire movement as wanting to see cops die in a way that's completely and totally unfair.
I know it's common for both sides to sometimes take the worst of the worst and say "see, this is what they all believe", but it's really going too far when you're saying they're all for cold blooded murder.
They do this shit all the time. They love to use minorities and women as conduits for their racist and sexist views. It's like they use them as shields and go, "look we got a black person to spout our bullshit so you can't say we're racist." Like yes motherfucker, we can. They shit isn't going to save you.
Byakuya769
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Officers might start profiling.
ryutaro's mama
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And arresting Blacks for no reason!
ryutaro's mama
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Mos Def...noooooooo!!!!
BLM needs stronger leadership, or its going to go the way of OWS.
"ISIS and Planned Parenthood in merger talks?"
Fox has had this idiot on before, but man oh man has he stepped over the line on this one.
Crazy fool.
Technically, yes, but most people use "right-wing", "conserative", "liberal", "socialist", "left-wing", etc., in terms of the the politics they're interested in, rather than fully "objectively".
"Conservative" and "socialist" mean different things and have different implications in the US, Canada, Sweden, or Poland.
Does BLM actually have a upper tier leadership? if anything wouldn't that would lead to an easy victory for people who wish to undermine it. As they can be clearly targeted.
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entremet
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Dude went in. I was surprised at his delivery. Didn't think they could find someone that extreme.
exmachina64
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Agreed.
She reminds me of an old boss. Even looks like her, also married to an athlete (small time hockey player, some minor league, I don't know how hockey works). We went to some meeting with salespeople from HP or something. We're downtown in Hampton, VA, really nice commercial area. She hugs me close as we're leaving and says "lets go this way, they were looking at us!". I glance over and see about five black guys, obvious staff at the office buildings, standing around on a break chatting. "Are you being serious?", I ask. "Yes they were looking right at me!".
That's the mindset this woman has.
That's the mindset this woman has.
BadAss2961
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Fox is always looking for black conservative contributors. They'll put any one of them on TV if they're willing to say things about black people that their anchors don't want to say on record. Also so they can show they actually have "black friends" that agree with them.
It's like to gold to them.
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Besides, there are already prominent figures within the movement and it wouldn't benefit it to have figureheads; if anything it would just create more targets for the likes of Fox News and the finger waving, apathetic general public
It doesn't seem like Ms. Hasselbeck has very informed reasoning, and "hate group" is far too intense of a blanket term to cast on the movement. However, I'm sure her outlook is sadly becoming more and more common due to how the more negative aspects of the movement are being given a higher level of attention.
I saw this video on CNN today, and was pretty saddened by the perspective the BLM gentleman had. I've not seen this Rashad Turner individual before, and of course the BLM organizer of a single city (Minnesota, in this case) should not be held as the sole voice of the entire movement, but this sort of stuff surely comes across as very bad publicity. I'm sure this is partly the media's doing too, for choosing interviewees with more inflammatory perspectives (gotta drum up the drama, after all).
(As a side note, I'm also very aware of how awful of a site breitbart is - it was just the only one I could find the video on.)
A lot of this is reminding me of the Occupy Wallstreet movement in a way, in the sense that it's a message I wholeheartedly agree with that isn't structured or centralized well enough to present its points in an effective manner to our soundbyte-driven culture. Anecdotally too I've heard of far more people being against BLM than for BLM precisely because of the type of media attention they are getting - which is largely framed as disruptive and incendiary. People like Elisabeth certainly aren't helping.
I don't know what the solution is. It's frustrating all around.
[EDIT: To be clear, the other guy in the interview is inflammatory too]
I saw this video on CNN today, and was pretty saddened by the perspective the BLM gentleman had. I've not seen this Rashad Turner individual before, and of course the BLM organizer of a single city (Minnesota, in this case) should not be held as the sole voice of the entire movement, but this sort of stuff surely comes across as very bad publicity. I'm sure this is partly the media's doing too, for choosing interviewees with more inflammatory perspectives (gotta drum up the drama, after all).
(As a side note, I'm also very aware of how awful of a site breitbart is - it was just the only one I could find the video on.)
A lot of this is reminding me of the Occupy Wallstreet movement in a way, in the sense that it's a message I wholeheartedly agree with that isn't structured or centralized well enough to present its points in an effective manner to our soundbyte-driven culture. Anecdotally too I've heard of far more people being against BLM than for BLM precisely because of the type of media attention they are getting - which is largely framed as disruptive and incendiary. People like Elisabeth certainly aren't helping.
I don't know what the solution is. It's frustrating all around.
[EDIT: To be clear, the other guy in the interview is inflammatory too]
travisbickle
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Is this person retired or still employed? He used the word "eradicate" on national tv when talking about a group of people!
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Ugh. Not this again.
"Leadership" isn't going to stop a massive rightwing smear campaign from going full-court press on a movement. They're VERY good at this.
He's the current Sheriff of Milwaukee County and could very well run for mayor in 2016.
exmachina64
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Are there people on GAF saying it will?
What do you see as the benefits of remaining decentralized?
Nah the Shaun King bullshit taught us, no they don't. And they already accomplished infinitely more than OWS did.
Folks stay putting them down, but still they rise
Or maybe she was coming on to you in a kinky way.
Homeland sercuity and other federal agencies are already monitoring guys like Deray, and Netta.
Just like MLK
Trojita
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Like what the fuck.
They keep on bringing on a black person that agrees with them. "Look we aren't racist a black person agrees with us". I can't help but see Samuel L Jackson's character from Django everytime
Also what the fuck at this story? Really, you are reporting on local front yard signs being taken?
They keep on bringing on a black person that agrees with them. "Look we aren't racist a black person agrees with us". I can't help but see Samuel L Jackson's character from Django everytime
Also what the fuck at this story? Really, you are reporting on local front yard signs being taken?
wrestleman
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What honestly did you expect?
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