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Elon Musk is ready to spend $6 billion to end world hunger, asks UN to provide a plan

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the only naivete being displayed here is your lack of understand of how direct aid can solve problems. homelessness is a great example- we spend a lot of money and legislative effort on gatekeeping benefits from low income individuals. then we cut off benefits as soon as people reach a level that can be charitably described as just outside poverty, where a huge portion of people end up falling back to a level where they are again dependent on government aid. what i'm suggesting in all of these cases is direct aid to the problems at hand. if we directly invest money into housing these people and providing case workers for mental health/drug abuse/therapy, we would see results that are more sturdy than these stopgap measures. if homelessness is not a case of the haves and the have nots, why are the majority of those who are homeless from low income households? if we provided education, healthcare, mental health resources, and subsidized housing for those people i highly doubt the rate would be the same.

as for your statement about the origin of third world problems, your ignorance on the subject exposes your severe lack of a historical understanding of the modern world. look at our funding of coups in central america in the last 70 years and you'll find numerous examples of how foreign interference can destroy developing countries.
You dont see many places giving poor or homeless people free apartments or condos because that costs a shit load of money. And monthly home/rent subsidies costs a lot too.

Government already gives people infrastructure, schools, hospitals, police and fire stations, welfare etc.... how much do you need to give people? Next step is a house subsidies payments or free apartments?

Forget it. In life, you got to get on your feet after enough assistance has been given.

The resources are there.

Now if you are saying instead of giving someone $1500 welfare cheque, the gov takes control and dictates minimums where it goes.... $800 to rent, $200 to utilities etc.... I can agree with that, since a lot of these people take the money and do dumb shit with it. Thats why there's food stamps. Technically you could just give the person an equivalent amount in $$$ and say figure it out yourself, but many of them would buy dumb shit with it. You even hear about them desperate to sell them for 50 cents on the dollar. So the gov has to try to influence people to buy food with the money so their kids eat.
 
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What I see is a lot of excuse making. Your arguments always boil down to “more”. We just haven’t done enough to fix other peoples’ problems. Then you simultaneously argue that foreign intervention has been the cause of all these problems for poor areas. How convenient! So when the West tries to install a government they want to work with, they’re meddling in foreign affair and should stay out. But if they stay out and the place goes to shit, because the country and culture are corrupt, the west doesn’t care enough to fix it. What a nice worldview. It’s just an the evolution of the noble savage argument self flagellating western people are so found of these days.
That's the usual USA/United Nations view from deadbeats.

When help is needed, who is the first country or organization to call? Them. When something isn't working right despite democratic govs, volunteers, doctors, corporations all pitching in with resources but not solving it. Who is to blame. Them.

If there's one thing nobody can ever disagree with is Eurocentric ambition and strive for betterment (that includes USA/Canada as lands based on British/French kinds of laws and immigrants).

Think of it. Hundreds of years ago while Europe, Mid East and China all had their major cities for eons (go back farther 1000+ years ago too), North America had nothing except Natives. Not one log cabin or cobblestone brick was even built yet.

Fast forward to 2022 and the amount of shit built is amazing. I cant even understand how the countries can even build so much in such a short time compared to other countries that had more people and smaller land masses when places like the US had smaller populations.

I dont even know how the first pilgrims and town builders figured it out. They must had shipped over architects and skilled construction crew and machines/tools from Europe on 100s of ferry trips to get it going.

I'll give another example of betterment. Medicine. Everyone go look at every major breakthrough, researcher, vaccine etc.... it's literally like 99% scientists and doctors from Eurocentric/USA/Israel the past 100 years. Almost all are English, French, German, or Jewish people. I guess other people in other parts of the world dont give a shit about medicine.
 
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What I see is a lot of excuse making. Your arguments always boil down to “more”. We just haven’t done enough to fix other peoples’ problems. Then you simultaneously argue that foreign intervention has been the cause of all these problems for poor areas. How convenient! So when the West tries to install a government they want to work with, they’re meddling in foreign affair and should stay out. But if they stay out and the place goes to shit, because the country and culture are corrupt, the west doesn’t care enough to fix it. What a nice worldview. It’s just an the evolution of the noble savage argument self flagellating western people are so found of these days.
okay, so you really don't know anything about US intervention because you'd see how what you're talking about has nothing to do with the history i'm talking about. i think you should stay out of talking about these subjects until you have a better understanding of homelessness and foreign intervention. good luck.
 
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okay, so you really don't know anything about US intervention because you'd see how what you're talking about has nothing to do with the history i'm talking about. i think you should stay out of talking about these subjects until you have a better understanding of homelessness and foreign intervention. good luck.
Youve got 22 posts on this board and most involve ranting about political kinds of topics. You got to relax.
 
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You dont see many places giving poor or homeless people free apartments or condos because that costs a shit load of money. And monthly home/rent subsidies costs a lot too.

Government already gives people infrastructure, schools, hospitals, police and fire stations, welfare etc.... how much do you need to give people? Next step is a house subsidies payments or free apartments?

Forget it. In life, you got to get on your feet after enough assistance has been given.

The resources are there.

Now if you are saying instead of giving someone $1500 welfare cheque, the gov takes control and dictates minimums where it goes.... $800 to rent, $200 to utilities etc.... I can agree with that, since a lot of these people take the money and do dumb shit with it. Thats why there's food stamps. Technically you could just give the person an equivalent amount in $$$ and say figure it out yourself, but many of them would buy dumb shit with it. You even hear about them desperate to sell them for 50 cents on the dollar. So the gov has to try to influence people to buy food with the money so their kids eat.
we don't give people free housing and resources because right wing politicians and moderate democrats would have an absolute shit fit if a bill suggesting those ideas reached the floor of congress. you're missing the point of what i'm saying because if we eliminated the bureaucratic means-testing elements of this legislation then we would get money and resources where they need to be- directly assisting those who need it. it's not entirely about spending more money but also about putting the money directly where it needs to be. and judging by your statements here you have no grasp on the complete lack of resources for unhoused people in the US. you can't get a job without an ID, and if you don't have a birth certificate or address to claim for a job application then it could take months to get these papers just to begin applying to jobs. then there's the issue of people who are formerly incarcerated or need mental help in order to be employable. the list goes on.
 
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we don't give people free housing and resources because right wing politicians and moderate democrats would have an absolute shit fit if a bill suggesting those ideas reached the floor of congress. you're missing the point of what i'm saying because if we eliminated the bureaucratic means-testing elements of this legislation then we would get money and resources where they need to be- directly assisting those who need it. it's not entirely about spending more money but also about putting the money directly where it needs to be. and judging by your statements here you have no grasp on the complete lack of resources for unhoused people in the US. you can't get a job without an ID, and if you don't have a birth certificate or address to claim for a job application then it could take months to get these papers just to begin applying to jobs. then there's the issue of people who are formerly incarcerated or need mental help in order to be employable. the list goes on.
You’re just in fantasy land yet you lack the self awareness to realize it. Come join us in reality. The VAST majority of homeless people would absolutely destroy any “free housing” they were given because they lack the ability to take care of themselves and their own problems, much less care for external things like apartments or employment. No one wants to hire them not because of their lack of housing, although that is an issue, but because they have very few skills and suffer from severe mental illness and drug addiction (in the overwhelming majority of cases).

What these people need is to be cared for against their will because they cannot make decisions themselves. They need to be committed to state hospitals, which we have outlawed because we find them inhumane. While I understand that perspective, there is no better answer.

Giving people who have destroyed their own lives more resources directly is simply supplying them with more to destroy. That’s going to sound harsh, but if you have honestly worked with homeless people and untreated drug addicts, you will know the truth of it.

The same thing applies to the broader discussion about countries. You can’t build a country by just throwing resources at them the same as you cannot build a person that way. It has to come from within the person or country/culture first. This is reality.
 
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we don't give people free housing and resources because right wing politicians and moderate democrats would have an absolute shit fit if a bill suggesting those ideas reached the floor of congress. you're missing the point of what i'm saying because if we eliminated the bureaucratic means-testing elements of this legislation then we would get money and resources where they need to be- directly assisting those who need it. it's not entirely about spending more money but also about putting the money directly where it needs to be. and judging by your statements here you have no grasp on the complete lack of resources for unhoused people in the US. you can't get a job without an ID, and if you don't have a birth certificate or address to claim for a job application then it could take months to get these papers just to begin applying to jobs. then there's the issue of people who are formerly incarcerated or need mental help in order to be employable. the list goes on.
Why should anyone get a free apartment? Earn it themselves like everyone else who works for it and pays rent or mortgage.

Even of resources are freed up, they dont deserve it anyway. You know who deserves subsidized housing the most? Not dirt poor people doing nothing all day getting drugged up sticking out their hand for more money. If anyone should be getting some free cash to float monthly rent or a cheap mortgage, it should be people putting in an honest days work at their modest job and barely scraping by. They are working their asses off and barely ends meet. If there's going to be prize to reward someone with some spare cash it should those people.

Unskilled, lazy, drugged up jailbirds deserve nothing.

As for ID, go get an ID. How hard can it be to get ID or a birth certificate? I still have my original birth certificate (old school laminated card), and at some point I also got an updated nicer looking paper slip. So really I have two copies. Your parents get a birth certificate for you when you're born. If someone lost it or their parents threw it in the garbage and the current guy cant figure out how to apply to get a replacement, that's on them.

As for former jailbirds needing a job after being locked up. That's their problem. Figure out how to make a living like everyone. If I was hiring people, I wouldnt hire an ex-con either.
 
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Sounds like it'll solve world hunger for a year, then it's be hoping Musk donates another $6 billion every year.

Only way to solve it is to put in enough money, training and facilities so that poor countries can grow their own food and have the process of shipping and storing it so it networks out like richer countries with logistics spiderwebbing to every corner store. If all it's going to be are crates of United Nations of flour and water, that does nothing except drag it on.
My wife worked for the UN for 3 years in SEA, she said the amount of financial waste to support the UN infrastructure is insane. UN workers are extremely well paid, the only downside is you have to move every 24-36 months which makes it very hard to start a family.
 

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Even of resources are freed up, they dont deserve it anyway. You know who deserves subsidized housing the most? Not dirt poor people doing nothing all day getting drugged up sticking out their hand for more money.
This is the correct answer - support the middle class that are not eligible for any government handouts and yet do not have enough to hide their money like the rich. They are screwed from both sides.
 
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This is the correct answer - support the middle class that are not eligible for any government handouts and yet do not have enough to hide their money like the rich. They are screwed from both sides.
Agreed.

When I was living pay cheque to pay cheque for probably 3-4 years in a one bedroom condo with a honda civic, I was scraping by for sure. Modest job at a modest salary. My first place was furnished with cheap Ikea stuff. However, even I can understand that in my situation, I'm young and unless I fuck up I'm going to be moving up at some point. Which I did. New company, promoted, suddenly my pay zoomed up $20k. So for people like me 20 years ago I can understand not dishing out any bucks to them or to peers who were renting but in a similar kind of situation.

But for someone whos older and stuck in a situation with a family, they got a hard working resume, but just cant land a better job, they got credit card bills etc....

If government wants to force themselves to open up the coffers and give it to someone, I have no problem with this kind of family getting it.

But for all the losers doing nothing hoping to scrape by sitting around, forget it. These people have already used up enough resources without giving back.
 

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It would be a good start since it seems nobody gives AF about world hunger, there is no such thing as charity in capitalism unless someone decides to go out the way.
 

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U guys keep dancing around the reality, the only way to fix it is to move back into old European solutions which china is currently doing themselves which will create huge progression and a level of ecenomy that will be able to sustain the populations and country's.

This is where my old versus new Europe comment came into play.

Old europe would do this.

How to solve failing country with a shit ton of poor people in it.

1) steamroll the useless government
2) Build a infrastructure and industry that works for such country, so money can be extracted and industry can be build ( huge farm land for food, or energy mills / solar farms or whatever else that works if u got nothing but space. ( see what the land can support and focus on that )
3) mass push the population against there will ( if they wanted it, they would already have done so ) into schools to change towards western standards and brainwash them to drop there own failing cultures.
4) force all the population into factory's and create a workforce and focus. Parents work, kids go to school and work, and get kids that go to school and work etc. instead of having parents do nothing, kids not doing anything etc etc.
5) give them liveable wage and start building houses everywhere, in order to do this they will have to become a part of a western country aka colonize them.
6) ban everything involving there older culture and ban any discussion around it.

Your result is america / australia or even what china is doing.

This will not work in current days with modern west because the modern west is handicapped by idiots coming out of university's that have no clue about the reality and are brainwashed in fairy tail bullshit worlds that don't work. This is why the UN is failing also. Its a bandwagon that pretents to help but in reality just adds towards the problem as they have no real solution or power to do anything. Its a profitable grift that does exactly what the failing governments over there do, hold down progression for money.

So lets see what new europe does:

1) respect there failing culture, and romanticizing it ( we all need to appreciate everybody's cultures because they are awesome just because they are different, yet they all ended up in disaster and praising it is already the first step to failure as it halts progression the next day aka sjw culture that took over the west )

Ask any old person that's 70+ years old what they think of africa's and it's awsome culture, they will instantly state its fucking useless and no clue why anybody would care for it. And the populations over there agree because they would all flee the next day towards the west if they could.

Now look at any 21 year old that sits in western universitys is brainwashed by media and cancel culture and ask them what they think about those country's? And u basically get a bunch of kids larping that everything is great in these cultures and they should support it and praise it because they good, but it only fails because "bad white western men" that holds them back. Even while those people are the only ones pushing progression forwards anywhere in the world and everybody wants to be in those country's.

So there natural conclusion is, west needs to get away from those country's, endless money needs to be pumped without any requirement ( victim complex ) into those cultures and everything will be fine ( aka modern UN ) becaus that's how the world works guys! yet the result is starving people and failing governments.

U can see this dump logic already being pushed by people in this very topic.

2) donate lots of money that goes nowhere because failing government hoarding everything, and supporting those failing governments while at it by putting them on a endless lifeline to never improve. ( UN )
3) population that only wants to hold up there hands and again not do anything ( good example free cloth market i actually did some business in this a decade ago ). If u can't sell people cloths, when they can get them for free. There won't be a market that buys and produces because they get it for free, which means your population will always walk in second handed cloths and if you cull it the next day they all have a huge problem. So they need to ban it and replace it. Because the west is holding them back with charity's.

http://sternoppy.com/2018/11/developing-countries-dont-want-your-clothes/

And this is on every level of these country's. how charity and how these organisations are failing to provide a solution because they never aknowledge the real problem because its against there current culture ( aka new europe )

4) don't want to take over country's, because they got shit to do in there own country's but also because bad rap aka new europe culture ( colonasation is bad ) u can see this in everything.

Hell here they rather lock people up in prison for example as so called "houses" then actually provide a solid way in there own country and own culture to shine. Because the later part = demonized and the first part is championed.

It's laughable.

So how to solve world hunger?

Put a time limit on country's that they have to move into a certain direction or else they will be taken over and invaded and the leadership will be hold responsible for it. This will result in country's needing to progress and leadership will need to do something or else there ass is on the line.

The same pressure Europeans had back in the day when they would stagnate they would dissapear and taken over by the next group of people and there culture would cease to exist the next day and be replaced by a culture that's more succesful.

Why will it never be solved?

Weak brainwashed fairy tail ideology being pushed by daydreamers that honestly add towards the issue rather then fixes it as result.


I will say it again, world hunger isn't a result of "to less farm land" or "bad western white men" or "not enough opportunity". World hunger is a result of failing cultures that hold there society's back on every level.

To showcase you a example.

If you give a german 2 sheep, they will bread them, produce 100 sheeps and start to make all kinds of machines to produce all kinds of different versions of sheep in order to move even further, sell most of the sheep and build even more advanced tech in order to get more different kind of sheep going.

If you give africa ( a failed hunger riddled country ) 2 sheeps, they will eat one the first day, and sacrifice the next one to a sheep god in the hope 2 new sheep will be delivered the next day.

Africa halts progression pretty much instantly and starves.
Germany has endless sheep, and progresses to the next age.

Even before Israel became a state in 1948, Jews by the thousands came to live there in communal farms. And the land was not exactly flowing with milk and honey. The coastal plains were swampy. The Galilee in the Judean Hills were rocky, and the southern half of the country was mostly desert. The Jewish settlers faced a number of obstacles, from bad soil, Bedouin Raiders, to malaria carrying mosquitoes overtaking the coastal plains in the Jordan Valley.




And instead of giving up, and leaving the land, they went to work, beginning with draining the swamps, spraying the land, and changing the flow of water in irrigation canals to interrupt the mosquitoes breeding. Their first efforts were a success, and in less that 20 years after Israel’s statehood, the country was officially malaria free. But this was just the beginning. You see how one good foundation opens up possibilities for another foundation to be laid. Now, the Jewish settlers were free to focus on making the desert bloom in the coastal plains. Citrus groves replaced the swamps in the Jordan Valley. What was once the center of the malaria epidemic, now became the country’s breadbasket . The Negev desert blossomed with newly planted forests and vineyards. And the Arava, once the most arid part of Israel, became the site of a flourishing vegetable industry. All of this was accomplished in the first 20 years of Israel’s statehood. In that time, Israel more than doubled their standard of living, and now they are using their experience to help other countries.

 
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Musk is a cunt, but he's not wrong.

And this is the UN. While they do do a lot of good, they are also often incredibly out of touch and make bold and rash claims that they can't back up. And they know it because they have to deal with countries that can cut their funding on a whim. So they go around spouting stuff like a virus not being transmissible human to human.

They must also know that this is ultimately largely up to the people they are trying to help, but they won't admit it. They won't admit that those people live in countries that need structural reform to solve these issues and that that might require conflict and the removal of those in power. And they won't admit that the people living there bear some of the blame for letting themselves be governed/ruled by the immensely corrupt.

Some countries really do need invading (ideally by a global task force) and having institutions set up for them, then slowly given back power over decades. But Afghanistan (a terrible place to try doing it) means that short of the world order drastically changing, no one is willing to even propose anything like that.

People love to bitch and moan about colonialism. And undoubtably it led to many atrocities and immense amounts of suffering. But in the decades since, can anyone name even one single significant thing that any previously colonised country that wasn't* essentially taken over the colonisers (The USA, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Taiwan, etc.) has done? Just one without outside help.

I mean, look at the state of South Africa now. The only decent places are some parts of Cape Town.

* Correction: wasn't - was completely changes the meaning, lol
 
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Why should anyone get a free apartment? Earn it themselves like everyone else who works for it and pays rent or mortgage.

Even of resources are freed up, they dont deserve it anyway. You know who deserves subsidized housing the most? Not dirt poor people doing nothing all day getting drugged up sticking out their hand for more money. If anyone should be getting some free cash to float monthly rent or a cheap mortgage, it should be people putting in an honest days work at their modest job and barely scraping by. They are working their asses off and barely ends meet. If there's going to be prize to reward someone with some spare cash it should those people.

Unskilled, lazy, drugged up jailbirds deserve nothing.

As for ID, go get an ID. How hard can it be to get ID or a birth certificate? I still have my original birth certificate (old school laminated card), and at some point I also got an updated nicer looking paper slip. So really I have two copies. Your parents get a birth certificate for you when you're born. If someone lost it or their parents threw it in the garbage and the current guy cant figure out how to apply to get a replacement, that's on them.

As for former jailbirds needing a job after being locked up. That's their problem. Figure out how to make a living like everyone. If I was hiring people, I wouldnt hire an ex-con either.

Lost my passport in Spain, a native went to help me get one. Police ID'd her and took her away, thought she was involved in a crime but was wrong.

I Just confusingly looked at the wall until they both came back. Was sorted.

She was a sweetheart but Father ownend a brothel.
 

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I'd like to see this plan myself. 6 Billion seems awful low.
LOL There is no plan, the response to the tweet should have clued you in to that already.

UN: Rich people need to give us $6 billion to solve world hunger, it's not complicated.
Elon: If it is so simple can you outline it here for the world to see?
UN: Well, actually, no.

There was never any plan. The UN was just talking shit and did not expect Elon to check them.
I do not even care for Elon but it was wonderful to see him own these pompous fools. The UN is as close to useless as a functioning organization can be.
 

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Musk is a cunt, but he's not wrong.

And this is the UN. While they do do a lot of good, they are also often incredibly out of touch and make bold and rash claims that they can't back up. And they know it because they have to deal with countries that can cut their funding on a whim. So they go around spouting stuff like a virus not being transmissible human to human.

They must also know that this is ultimately largely up to the people they are trying to help, but they won't admit it. They won't admit that those people live in countries that need structural reform to solve these issues and that that might require conflict and the removal of those in power. And they won't admit that the people living there bear some of the blame for letting themselves be governed/ruled by the immensely corrupt.

Some countries really do need invading (ideally by a global task force) and having institutions set up for them, then slowly given back power over decades. But Afghanistan (a terrible place to try doing it) means that short of the world order drastically changing, no one is willing to even propose anything like that.

People love to bitch and moan about colonialism. And undoubtably it led to many atrocities and immense amounts of suffering. But in the decades since, can anyone name even one single significant thing that any previously colonised country that was essentially taken over the colonisers (The USA, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Taiwan, etc.) has done? Just one without outside help.

I mean, look at the state of South Africa now. The only decent places are some parts of Cape Town.

You're not wrong in the slightest. However the soldiers are branded as "Peacekeepers", it's a fallacy. They truly have no power and those countries know it.
 
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Lost my passport in Spain, a native went to help me get one. Police ID'd her and took her away, thought she was involved in a crime but was wrong.

I Just confusingly looked at the wall until they both came back. Was sorted.

She was a sweetheart but Father ownend a brothel.
Friend of mine had his shit stolen in Spain too! City of thieves. He got some kind of temp passport or whatever from some Canadian office there. Got home fine. He cared more about the souvenirs and camera he lost. All pics gone as this was before cellphones!
 
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I somehow feel like '10 billion' in raises for Jeff's workers might make them happy enough to stop using the side of the roads as their personal trash dumpster. Either we had great cleanup services that got cut back or this generation of humans sucks the widest chode yet.

Hard to improve the environment or feed the hungry when a large swath of people can't even earn a basic living wage and more approach the poverty line daily.

How can people improve the world if they can't even care for themselves? I still donate and try, but I have to agree with this article and 'tackling the root problem.'
 
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Pretty sure 2% of Elon Musk's grocery bill would be enough to solve world hunger. Dude needs to seriously put away the doritos. He's beginning to look like the michelin man.
 

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Amazing how every jerkoff from random forum poster to UN official could totally spend Elon’s money better than him.

If I was king of the world…you’re not and it’s not your money so fuck off.

I see this same thing play out on smaller scales with simple envy and it’s gross. If you’re such a genius about money then make your own billions and do whatever you want with it and have everyone from random forum jerkoffs to UN jerkoffs tell you how they could have spent it better.
 
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Amazing how every jerkoff from random forum poster to UN official could totally spend Elon’s money better than him.

If I was king of the world…you’re not and it’s not your money so fuck off.

I see this same thing play out on smaller scales with simple envy and it’s gross. If you’re such a genius about money then make your own billions and do whatever you want with it and have everyone from random forum jerkoffs to UN jerkoffs tell you how they could have spent it better.
Seriously. There are a fairly large number of people with the kind of money Musk had when he started out. I can think of only a couple of who did anything comparable to building the leading electric vehicle company or a fucking commercial space travel company. To have the hubris to think the fucking government, who can print their own money but can’t even manage to efficiently build and repair their own highways in a reasonable amount of time, would use his money better is ridiculous. The government is so inefficient that if they were a private company, they’d fail a million time over. And the UN is the worst example of that kind of thing.
 
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He knows this is not possible with that sum.
Only reason he entertains the idea and makes it seem like he’s a good willed guy. Fucking cunt should just pay taxes.
If there was a very rich person in this planet who would actually pull this it would be Elon Musk.
 

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Friend of mine had his shit stolen in Spain too! City of thieves. He got some kind of temp passport or whatever from some Canadian office there. Got home fine. He cared more about the souvenirs and camera he lost. All pics gone as this was before cellphones!

I'd go back in heartbeat. Loved it but hung around stupidly dangerous places. (here the company put me).

Only hospialized once. I remember the Dr afterwards saying, "you look like, how you say in English? A potato?", he meant 'Pirata' as my eye was covered. Dude smashed me, haha.

Didn't care, went back to the bar soon after. Was never touched again (by a man).
 
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I'd go back in heartbeat. Loved it but hung around stupidly dangerous places. (here the company put me).

Only hospialized once. I remember the Dr afterwards saying, "you look like, how you say in English? A potato?", he meant 'Pirata' as my eye was covered. Dude smashed me, haha.

Didn't care, went back to the bar soon after. Was never touched again (by a man).
Never been to Spain. Aside from everyone saying watch your bags, heard it's nice in Madrid. People say crime is limited to petty theft too, so no hardcore shit.
 

Ionian

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Never been to Spain. Aside from everyone saying watch your bags, heard it's nice in Madrid. People say crime is limited to petty theft too, so no hardcore shit.

I was robbed once after buying weed. Dude robbed it back, I went after him.

They play a game, ask you if you know the Neu Camp. Do footwork and pickpocket you.

Never got the weed back, went back to a girl saying "I got weed!" with nothing. Ran after him but he was long gone.
 

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I don't think I would trust 6 billion dollars to an organization that not too long ago had employees busted with human sex trafficking.
That's the point. It'd be like me sincerely saying I'll match that sum as soon a viable plan is produced.