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Emmanuel Macron refuses any renegociations of the Paris accord

GoldenEye 007

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Germans drink sparkling water.
French will dislocate your brain with idiot maths trying to count past 70.

The Franco-German axis was a mistake. It's nothing but trash.

I just discovered this. I was in Europe last year and rejected it as much as possible in favor of still.

But then back at home, I tried it a few times with some lime flavor and it was pretty good. Pure water with some slight fizziness like soda! I've been missing out.
 

norm9

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I just discovered this. I was in Europe last year and rejected it as much as possible in favor of still.

But then back at home, I tried it a few times with some lime flavor and it was pretty good. Pure water with some slight fizziness like soda! I've been missing out.

I started drinking "agua con gas" when I visited Mexico. Just like water but safer!
 

Spartancarver

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Every world leader needs to be like this when they deal with us. Our president is an incompetent child. Put him in his place.
 

Carn82

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in which European country do people not drink sparkling water? The Dutch do it too, heck, even the Italians

Well, I'm Dutch...maybe in strange touristy places but if you order water you usually get flat / non-sparkling. But you can just as well ask for tap water; will be cheaper in the end.
 

Derwind

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I am liking this guy more and more.



Translation:
Emmanuel Macron also invited American scientists and entrepreneurs to come work in France. "To all the scientists, entrepreneurs, engaged citicizens that were disappointed by the US president's decision," he assured them that they would "in France, find a second nation." "I am calling you: come work here, with us, on concrete solutions about climate," he added. "Tonight, America has turned its back on America, but France will never turn its back on Americans," Emmanuel Macron added.​

Daaaaamn

Not gunna lie, if I hadn't warmed up to the guy yet... smacking Trump & his administrstion in the mouth helps.

 

Abstrusity

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I might take up that offer. Changes in climate change policy and the growth and decay of industries as a result will need economic insight.

...Finish college, move to France, never look back.
 

Figboy79

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I am liking this guy more and more.



Translation:
Emmanuel Macron also invited American scientists and entrepreneurs to come work in France. "To all the scientists, entrepreneurs, engaged citicizens that were disappointed by the US president's decision," he assured them that they would "in France, find a second nation." "I am calling you: come work here, with us, on concrete solutions about climate," he added. "Tonight, America has turned its back on America, but France will never turn its back on Americans," Emmanuel Macron added.​

Daaaaamn

Damn indeed. Did he also say how come Summerslam, Trump'll be crying for his mom when Marcon runs wild on him?

I'm so fucking embarrassed for my country. To go from Obama to this guy in the blink of an eye to this fucker. Just a fucking nightmarish situation for all of us. Bravo to all of the other world leaders refusing to kowtow to Trump.
 

Xando

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Does it still fall under democratic law? Yes. Was he directly voted into power like Trump? No. So I guess you can say he was democratically elected into power but not like Trump where it's 1 vs 1 winner takes all.

It's a stupid argument to make because if you say hitler wasn't democratically elected in 32 because he was appointed and did not get a majority of votes, the federal republic hasn't had a democratic election since 1945.

Merkel gets appointed by the federal president when she wins an election and then has to be confirmed by parliament.

Hitler was elected chancellor as part of a minority goverment with the Papen nationalists to avoid the military and kaiser taking over.

The 6 November 1932 elections yielded 33.1% for the Nazis,[51] two million voters fewer than in the previous election. Franz von Papen stepped down and was succeeded as Chancellor (Reichskanzler) by General Kurt von Schleicher on 3 December. Schleicher, a retired army officer, had developed in an atmosphere of semi-obscurity and intrigue that encompassed the Republican military policy. He had for years been in the camp of those supporting the Conservative counter-revolution. Schleicher's bold and unsuccessful plan was to build a majority in the Reichstag by uniting the trade unionist left wings of the various parties, including that of the Nazis led by Gregor Strasser. This policy did not prove successful either.


Poster for the nationalist "Black–White–Red" coalition of Alfred Hugenberg (DNVP leader), Franz von Papen and Franz Seldte.
In this brief Presidential Dictatorship intermission, Schleicher assumed the role of "Socialist General" and entered into relations with the Christian Trade Unions, the left-wing members of the Nazi party, and even with the Social Democrats. Schleicher planned for a sort of labour government under his Generalship. But the Reichswehr officers were not prepared for this, the working class had a natural distrust of their future allies, and the great capitalists and landowners also did not like the plans.

Hitler learned from Papen that the general had not received from Hindenburg the authority to abolish the Reichstag parliament, whereas any majority of seats did. The cabinet (under a previous interpretation of Article 48) ruled without a sitting Reichstag, which could vote only for its own dissolution. Hitler also learned that all past crippling Nazi debts were to be relieved by German big business.

On 22 January, Hitler's efforts to persuade Oskar von Hindenburg, the President's son and confidant, included threats to bring criminal charges over estate taxation irregularities at the President's Neudeck estate; although 5,000 acres (20 km2) extra were soon allotted to Hindenburg's property. Outmaneuvered by Papen and Hitler on plans for the new cabinet, and having lost Hindenburg's confidence, Schleicher asked for new elections. On 28 January, Papen described Hitler to Paul von Hindenburg as only a minority part of an alternative, Papen-arranged government. The four great political movements, the SPD, Communists, Centre, and the Nazis were in opposition.

On 29 January, Hitler and Papen thwarted a last-minute threat of an officially sanctioned Reichswehr takeover, and on 30 January 1933 Hindenburg accepted the new Papen-Nationalist-Hitler coalition, with the Nazis holding only three of eleven Cabinet seats: Hitler as Chancellor, Wilhelm Frick as Minister of the Interior and Hermann Göring as Minister Without Portfolio. Later that day, the first cabinet meeting was attended by only two political parties, representing a minority in the Reichstag: The Nazis and the German National People's Party (DNVP), led by Alfred Hugenberg, with 196 and 52 seats respectively. Eyeing the Catholic Centre Party's 70 (plus 20 BVP) seats, Hitler refused their leader's demands for constitutional "concessions" (amounting to protection) and planned for dissolution of the Reichstag.

Hindenburg, despite his misgivings about the Nazis' goals and about Hitler as a personality, reluctantly agreed to Papen's theory that, with Nazi popular support on the wane, Hitler could now be controlled as Chancellor. This date, dubbed by the Nazis as the Machtergreifung (seizure of power), is commonly seen as the beginning of Nazi Germany.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weimar_Republic#Schleicher_cabinet

Shortly after becoming chancellor he dissolved the reichstag to have new elections(These were the first with massive voter supression) in 33

Hitler was sworn in as Chancellor on the morning of 30 January 1933 in what some observers later described as a brief and indifferent ceremony. By early February, a mere week after Hitler's assumption of the chancellorship, the government had begun to clamp down on the opposition. Meetings of the left-wing parties were banned and even some of the moderate parties found their members threatened and assaulted. Measures with an appearance of legality suppressed the Communist Party in mid-February and included the plainly illegal arrests of Reichstag deputies.

The Reichstag fire on 27 February was blamed by Hitler's government on the Communists. Hitler used the ensuing state of emergency to obtain the presidential assent of Hindenburg to issue the Reichstag Fire Decree the following day. The decree invoked Article 48 of the Weimar Constitution and "indefinitely suspended" a number of constitutional protections of civil liberties, allowing the Nazi government to take swift action against political meetings, arresting and killing the Communists.

Hitler and the Nazis exploited the German state's broadcasting and aviation facilities in a massive attempt to sway the electorate, but this election yielded a scant majority of 16 seats for the coalition. At the Reichstag elections, which took place on 5 March 1933, the NSDAP obtained 17 million votes. The Communist, Social Democrat and Catholic Centre votes stood firm. This was the last multi-party election of the Weimar Republic and the last multi-party all-German election for 57 years.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weimar_Republic#Hitler.27s_chancellorship_.281933.29
 

GAMEPROFF

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Xando posted more or less how I was thinking or what I wanted to express, I just fucked up inbetween and mixed Voting Results up and lost the way how I wanted to structure my argumet and post. At the end, I forgot about the January 1933 because I was looking up results and was only finding March 1933 results.

Again, sorry for loosing my temper yesterday, I hate myself for it everytime it happens. Please dont be angry with me.
 

The Lamp

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Why should the French government (And people) subsidies lifestyle of super rich people?
You already have subsidised healthcare and higher education over here.
It's paid by taxes that are a little bit higher but not that much.

You are behaving like those huge corporations that ask for subsidies and they threaten to leave if everyone doesn't bend over your way.

I fucking told y'all. Emmanuel thinks it's important to compensate people to incentivize them to come here. The French government just opened this website offering up to €1.5 Million in grants to scientists willing to fight climate science moving to France.
https://www.makeourplanetgreatagain.fr
 

Palette Swap

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I fucking told y'all. Emmanuel thinks it's important to compensate people to incentivize them to come here. The French government just opened this website offering up to €1.5 Million in grants to scientists willing to fight climate science moving to France.
https://www.makeourplanetgreatagain.fr
It's not that much though:
Up to 1.5M€ for 4 years grant (salary + 2 working staff + 2 students + working expenses) allowing to develop projects within and benefiting from the hosting laboratory environment
(Assuming that's before payroll taxes, etc)

That doesn't sound like a discretionary blank check.
 

SolidusDave

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Climate change is the one issue where "compromises", pleasing world powers or "better deals" make no sense.

That kind of thinking is exactly why all of us are already past the prevention stage and in the "on a scale of 1 to 10, how fucked do we want to be" stage.
 

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I am liking this guy more and more.



Translation:
Emmanuel Macron also invited American scientists and entrepreneurs to come work in France. "To all the scientists, entrepreneurs, engaged citicizens that were disappointed by the US president's decision," he assured them that they would "in France, find a second nation." "I am calling you: come work here, with us, on concrete solutions about climate," he added. "Tonight, America has turned its back on America, but France will never turn its back on Americans," Emmanuel Macron added.​

Daaaaamn
Why isn't this man my president?