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'Empire' Star Jussie Smollett Attacked in Possible Hate Crime (Update: All Charges Dropped. Records Sealed. Chicago Mayor Not Happy.)

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The interesting part about resetera and them talking about taking an L. They are using the term “We” a lot in reference to this whole thing. They truly relate to these instances super hard.

I’m just intrigued because this is playing out like an episode of CSI. This is better than most tv shows.
 

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Unfortunately I have the feeling if he really winds up being charged for false allegations, he'll be praised by the media as a martyr like Kaepernick for essentially being a fuckin loser.

Jussie Smollett, 2019 Citizen of the Year.
This will be spun as the CPD is racist, the media is racist, only in Donald Trumps America can 2 white men beat up a gay black man and the cops will pin it on some Nigeran black dudes while the Rich White Privilaged oppressors get away scott free.
 

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Really sad to see these reports. If it's confirmed to be faked I really hope people go after him for making a false report and I hope he realizes the severity of it. Faking a hate crime does nothing but harm real victims of such disgusting attacks. Hopefully all of this gets straightened out soon.


I can't update the OP at the moment, but once I am in front of a computer and can find a good source for all this new information I will update the OP once it's confirmed.
Probably should wait to update the OP since story keeps bobbing and weaving.

Also, post all sandwich related info please
 

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I have a very strong suspicion that the Kamala Harris connection and timing of the “attack” are too convenient to ignore, but I doubt anything could ever be proven.
I would love if one of the redacted calls was to a Harris campaign official. Like, holy hell, that would be even more proof we are living in a simulation and some mad lad little brother figured out his big brother's password and is just wreaking havoc on his account. Blackface dlc for $3? I'll take Two of those thank you very much! Hoax attack? Youbetcha.
 

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Breaking News: Man caught after committing crime denies committing crime, employer who doesn't want the hot potato dodges questions


#IBelieveJussie
 

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Not surprising since this story was suspect from almost the very start. Unfortunately lots of people have egg on their face because they are so quick to jump on something like this to prove that we live in this post apocalyptic world where MAGA racists are running around terrorizing minorities on the streets (hint: this is not the case).

It’s no different than people using violent crimes committed by illegals as evidence that we must lock ourselves in our homes out of risk of violence by illegals until the wall is built.

I really hate our polarized society where the nutjobs on the left and the nutjobs on the right try to paint our world as being on the brink of destruction unless we implement their specific political policies. If you happen to exist in the middle you are a racist, sexist, bigot, homophobe nazi who also is apparently a socialist commie who wants opens borders. It’s so stupid.
 

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Guys don't be too hasty to make judgments. We still don't have all the facts.

*sigh*

What a mess.
 

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I’ll eat my keyboard if this was a hoax. There’s no doubt in my mind he’s telling the truth.

That being said, if asked to just analyze this objectively and evaluate the possibility of that being the case, it would be one of the dumbest moves ever. To fake an attack like this in such a public area and basically destroy your career (which would happen if this found out), and also destroy all goodwill you’ve built in your minority communities, well, would be a career/social suicide the likes of which I haven’t seen in quite a while.

I’d imagine he told them exactly where he was assaulted. Are there no cameras on that spot at all? Are there no cameras on any side streets? They only have a shot of him in Subway, nothing else at all? If anything that’s stranger to me than anything else.

Watch Dogs taught me that cameras are everywhere in Chicago.

I’m kidding, but seriously, if they can’t even find footage of him walking then I can’t help but wonder why that is.

Hopefully we get more details and facts, and once the events are confirmed we can lock the scumbags up
I recommend some salt on that keyboard.
 

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Go read the first few pages of this thread, or the Covington thread, and get back to me about hasty judgements.
And I think we agree, so why jump to conclusions just like the people we criticize. This whole thing is a mess so lets wait for the police to make an official statement.
 

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Goddammit this thread is like a roller coaster.

The police are calling it a hoax, now they are walking it back, Fox breaks their silence to stand behind Jussie after rumours of him being written off the show, now the PR firm is spinning shit, we still have the rest of the interview and somehow these 2 Nigerian extras had a super expensive lawyer on call. What are the odds?

This is more entertaining than Empire
 

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Really sad to see these reports. If it's confirmed to be faked I really hope people go after him for making a false report and I hope he realizes the severity of it. Faking a hate crime does nothing but harm real victims of such disgusting attacks. Hopefully all of this gets straightened out soon.


I can't update the OP at the moment, but once I am in front of a computer and can find a good source for all this new information I will update the OP once it's confirmed.
100% agree
 

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If he planned this out with those people that he knows, and the police have to prove that, then I kinda get why official information has been so scarce. That's a complex web to untangle.
 
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That's not how it works. Confirmation bias works both ways.

There's no good reason not to hold out for concrete information.
That's not how it works either. We've had quite a long time to evaluate the ever-changing story, and are fully aware Chicago Police did not believe the story. We've now had multiple, though somewhat conflicting, press leaks that tell a far more convincing story then Smollett ever did. While it's too soon to know whether this was a 'cheating' incident or a planned hoax, it's quite fair to assume the cover story is a hoax at this point. Sure, maybe it wasnt... but yeah, it was. Making an informed decision at this point is nothing like jumping to judgment before any evidence was in.
 
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While it starts to look like it was staged, there are still the two words used that always makes me hold my judgment inside a bit longer:
"sources say" / "source tells" etc

The past couple of years with Trump as the president have taught me to not make any conclusions whenever there are stories where "sources say" this and that.

This story seems to jump around so fast now that by the end of me writing this and pressing the "post reply" button it might've done some wild plot twist already in any direction :D
 

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While it starts to look like it was staged, there are still the two words used that always makes me hold my judgment inside a bit longer:
"sources say" / "source tells" etc

The past couple of years with Trump as the president have taught me to not make any conclusions whenever there are stories where "sources say" this and that.

This story seems to jump around so fast now that by the end of me writing this and pressing the "post reply" button it might've done some wild plot twist already in any direction :D
Thing is, ABC7 reporters and CWB have been spot on thus far with information. Seems odd they got so much wrong all of a sudden.
 

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That's not how it works either. We've had quite a long time to evaluate the ever-changing story, and are fully aware Chicago Police did not believe the story. We've now had multiple, though somewhat conflicting, press leaks that tell a far more convincing story then Smollett ever did. While it's too soon to know whether this was a 'cheating' incident or a planned hoax, it's quite fair to assume the cover story is a hoax at this point. Sure, maybe it wasnt... but yeah, it was. Making an informed decision at this point is nothing like jumping to judgment before any evidence was in.
The forensic evidence is way too descriptive to be fake. "They knew to check for discrepancies between Jussie's redacted log and the one they had already subpoenaed". If someone wrote that, they are a professional writer.
 
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ABC7 seems to be sticking by their sources. They say he along with the two others are being investigated (not confirmed that they actually staged it yet, which may be why the police released the statement it did) and claim it's coming from multiple sources. We'll see: https://abc7chicago.com/sources-police-investigating-whether-smollett-staged-attack-with-help-of-others/5138497/

CHICAGO --
Chicago police confirmed Thursday that detectives are talking to two persons of interest in connection with the alleged attack on "Empire" actor Jussie Smollett.

Multiple sources have told ABC7 Eyewitness News that police are investigating whether Smollett and the two men staged the attack allegedly because Smollett was being written off of "Empire."

A source familiar with the investigation told the ABC7 I-Team that Smollett failed to appear for an interview with detectives earlier Thursday, but has since spoken with police.

Chicago Police Superintendent Eddie Johnson contacted ABC7 to say they are continuing to treat Smollett as a victim and the investigation remains ongoing.

Chicago police told ABC News, "Police are investigating whether the two individuals committed the attack - or whether the attack happened at all."
 
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We are getting to the end-game.

The two brothers are getting charged? They were picked up at the airport and have been in custody since?
That does not sound like a friendly, "please pop by the station for a quick interview."

If true I bet this is the cops letting them know things just got real and that right now is a really good time to start thinking about talking and making deals.



But what happened with the lumberjack? I want to know more about the lumberjack.
(This is better than TV. Amazing. What will happen next?)
 
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Jussie Smollett should be arrested for this. It’s far past time to punish people pushing these fake “hate” crimes. The media always runs with it before the evidence come out, and increases dumb, anti-whites hatred.

The title of the thread should be changed to reflect reality.
 
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Trump has hypnotized Nigeria, may Gay Tupac awaken the people and help them see the evil doings of Trump. #bleach #noose #magacountry
 

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We are getting to the end-game.

The two brothers are getting charged? They were picked up at the airport and have been in custody since?
That does not sound like a friendly, "please pop by the station for a quick interview."

If true I bet this is the cops letting them know things just got real and that right now is a really good time to start thinking about talking and making deals.



But what happened with the lumberjack? I want to know more about the lumberjack.
(This is better than TV. Amazing. What will happen next?)
The Redneck guy with short jeans? I thought he died that night?
 

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edit - answered in the post below

So did the family members of the 2 Nigerians lie to the police about the men flying back to Nigeria on the night of the attack?

How could they have flown back weeks ago but be in 48 hour police custody right now?
 
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CWB Chicago has a good breakdown: https://www.cwbchicago.com/2019/02/update-smollett-potential-persons-of.html

Two Chicago brothers who attended Lakeview High School are “potential persons of interest” in the purported hate crime attack against Empire TV star Jussie Smollett in Streeterville early on Jan. 29. The two were detained by Chicago police at O’Hare airport on Wednesday evening as they returned from a trip to Nigeria, according to police department sources. CWBChicago is not identifying the men because they have not been charged with any crime.

Here is the latest:

• At least one of the men has appeared as an extra on Smollett’s show, Empire, which airs on Fox. That man has a YouTube channel featuring three audition reels. In one reel, he performs the part of a man who has received the finger of a loved one in the mail from kidnappers.

CBSChicago reports that an attorney representing the brothers "expects" charges to be filed against them "before 5:45 p.m. Friday" when the typical 48-hour window of opportunity for prosecutors to either prosecute or release an individual will expire.

• The men, who are African-American, shared a residence in Lakeview about three blocks from Mayor Rahm Emanuel’s home as recently as one year ago. One of the brothers also lists a home on the South Side.

• Police on Wednesday executed a search warrant at a North Side home, seizing electronics, bleach, a red hat, clothing, and more. The search warrant receipt states that police retrieved proof that both men live in the raided apartment. CWB could not immediately confirm that the raid was at the brother's listed address near the intersection of Ashland Avenue and Belle Plaine Avenue.

• The brother who appeared on Empire has no adult arrests in Chicago since 2014, but the Chicago Tribune reports that he was charged with attempted murder in Cook County in 2011 but later pleaded guilty to aggravated battery. His brother was charged with DUI near their home in 2015 at the age of 21, but he has no other adult arrests in the city since 2014, CPD records show. The outcome of the DUI case was not immediately available.

• A Chicago police spokesperson denied a media report that the two persons of interest worked with Smollett to stage the attack because Smollett’s character was about to be written out of the TV show. A studio executive also denied that Smollett’s role was being axed.

• The brothers flew to Nigeria several hours after Smollett reported being attacked, according to reporting by CBS2Chicago. They were arrested as they returned via O’Hare last night. Their attorney told the station that they have no idea why they are considered to be of interest in the matter.
 
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So did the family members of the 2 Nigerians lie to the police about the men flying back to Nigeria on the night of the attack?

How could they have flown back weeks ago but be in 48 hour police custody right now?
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The way I read it is they flew out to Nigeria just after the attack.
Then yesterday they flew in and returned from Nigeria, at which point they were arrested after de-embarking the plane.
 

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• Police on Wednesday executed a search warrant at a North Side home, seizing electronics, bleach, a red hat, clothing, and more. The search warrant receipt states that police retrieved proof that both men live in the raided apartment. CWB could not immediately confirm that the raid was at the brother's listed address near the intersection of Ashland Avenue and Belle Plaine Avenue.
Nigerian African American Trump supporters confirmed

/s
 

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Nigerian African American Trump supporters confirmed

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Don't forget white supremacist and homophobic, even though one of them was apparently giving Jussie another footlong nightly.

The red hat just proves this was all, at best, attention whoring. With Jussie claiming that they screamed "MAGA" and specifically calls out the red hat, it had to be staged.
 
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The way I read it is they flew out to Nigeria just after the attack.
Then yesterday they flew in and returned from Nigeria, at which point they were arrested after de-embarking the plane.
This is how I read it too.

I think the police may have had significant evidence this was a hoax for awhile and were waiting for them to return so they could arrest them. If they said anything earlier, they simply might remain in Nigeria.

When smollet went on TV I bet they were half laughing their asses off and half pissed at his lies. He made their decision as to how to handle this easy.