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'Empire' Star Jussie Smollett Attacked in Possible Hate Crime (Update: All Charges Dropped. Records Sealed. Chicago Mayor Not Happy.)

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It is though.

We have threads about immigrants supposedly committing crimes, people from the LGBTQ community doing this or that, and threads about Muslims from somewhere in the world doing this or that. And then we get pages of "discussion" about it where people come in and use it as an excuse to cement their already pre-established opinions about that particular group of people. We see it all the time. Very rarely does anyone ever go into those threads with a "Hey come on now guys lets wait for the facts. Lets not jump to conclusions now okay?". Its mostly just everyone dogpiling into the thread and giving their two cents. People don't question the source. They don't question whether the victim is telling the truth. They just assume the story is true because it fits the narrative they wanna believe.


But a famous black man is violently attacked in the streets of Chicago and he says it was racial/homphobic in nature and claims that MAGA people did it? OH WELL HANG THE FUCK ON NOW! Lets slow down guys. Lets double triple check everything. Lets make sure this is accurate. We can't get too far ahead of ourselves here. We can't just go jumping to conclusions and assume the reports are accurate! We can't just assume the victim is telling the truth!


Thats a double standard in my view. People are treating this situation differently solely because this is a black man claiming that MAGA people did this. If this was a white guy who was attacked and claims it was Muslims or Antifa then you can bet your ass that 90% of the "doubt" in here would not even be here. It would be "leftists!" this and "ANTIFA!" that. And don't tell me I'm wrong either. Anyone who is remotely familiar with the way things go in the Politics section knows that how it goes when it comes to thread that contain anything negative about the Left.


And I'm just tired of it. Its so transparent. Most people don't even try to hide it anymore. @AfricanKing @ssolitare and others who are more left leaning like me see it all the time and we try to point it out, but I think this is the most blatant example of it that I have seen so far. Even if this all turns out to be smoke it was still treated differently by people here because of their political leanings and it wasn't even subtle.
How preposterous of you, the regressive left is at it again. We need more quality posters here who can evaluate such a situation level-headed!
 

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Even if this all turns out to be smoke it was still treated differently by people here because of their political leanings and it wasn't even subtle.
That's one way of trying to rid yourself of the blame in case this turns out to be fake. You've reached a new low I didn't think it was possible.
You're the one that made this thread and focused it on MAGA. And when people doubt it and tell you that there's only one source claiming that you start crying about double standards. You're not here to report on this guy being assaulted, you're here to cry about MAGA. It's clear you're still salty about Covington. Learn to take an L for once in your life.
 
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I’ll eat my keyboard if this was a hoax. There’s no doubt in my mind he’s telling the truth.

That being said, if asked to just analyze this objectively and evaluate the possibility of that being the case, it would be one of the dumbest moves ever. To fake an attack like this in such a public area and basically destroy your career (which would happen if this found out), and also destroy all goodwill you’ve built in your minority communities, well, would be a career/social suicide the likes of which I haven’t seen in quite a while.

I’d imagine he told them exactly where he was assaulted. Are there no cameras on that spot at all? Are there no cameras on any side streets? They only have a shot of him in Subway, nothing else at all? If anything that’s stranger to me than anything else.

Watch Dogs taught me that cameras are everywhere in Chicago.

I’m kidding, but seriously, if they can’t even find footage of him walking then I can’t help but wonder why that is.

Hopefully we get more details and facts, and once the events are confirmed we can lock the scumbags up
 
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That's one way of trying to rid yourself of the blame in case this turns out to be fake. You've reached a new low I didn't think it was possible.
You're the one that made this thread and focused it on MAGA. And when people doubt it and tell you that there's only one source claiming that you start crying about double standards. You're not here to report on this guy being assaulted, you're here to cry about MAGA. It's clear you're still salty about Covington. Learn to take an L for once in your life.
You are missing the point and I honestly can't tell if its on purpose or not.
 

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You taunting me instead of addressing my very real points is just kind of proving my point.


Thanks for that.
Of course! Given how you were ready to bail out it was all too obvious that you needed an assist.

That said, I'd call my actions less of a taunt and more of a confirmation that your instincts were spot on and that you shouldn't have second guessed them. :)
 
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Of course! Given how you were ready to bail out it was all too obvious that you needed an assist.

That said, I'd call my actions less of a taunt and more of a confirmation that your instincts were spot on and that you shouldn't have second guessed them. :)
Also when I said I was done it was more of a "I'm done dealing with this shit" not a "I'm done with the thread". I even said that I would still be updating the thread.

Hence the storybook post immediately after.
 
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I’ll eat my keyboard if this was a hoax. There’s no doubt in my mind he’s telling the truth.

That being said, if asked to just analyze this objectively and evaluate the possibility of that being the case, it would be one of the dumbest moves ever. To fake an attack like this in such a public area and basically destroy your career (which would happen if this found out), and also destroy all goodwill you’ve built in your minority communities, well, would be a career/social suicide the likes of which I haven’t seen in quite a while.

I’d imagine he told them exactly where he was assaulted. Are there no cameras on that spot at all? Are there no cameras on any side streets? They only have a shot of him in Subway, nothing else at all? If anything that’s stranger to me than anything else.

Watch Dogs taught me that cameras are everywhere in Chicago.

I’m kidding, but seriously, if they can’t even find footage of him walking then I can’t help but wonder why that is.

Hopefully we get more details and facts, and once the events are confirmed we can lock the scumbags up

It would be career, and political suicide, yes.

Given the scale of the investigation, it would now likely result in charges.

Per my earlier post, Chicago has an intricate network of 30,000 HD, Nightvision, Secret cameras.

CNN report that hundreds of hours of footage have already been reviewed. The only footage of Jussie, is that of him alone.

This is confusing. Given the statement provided to Police gave a specific time, and location of the incident.
 

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It would be career, and political suicide, yes.
Yeah, it would be, but we are not necessarily talking about a rational person here.

Not to go too deep into personal things, but when my father first attempted suicide, he stabbed himself in the stomach, then when he was found he claimed that he was assaulted and mugged. The police investigation showed otherwise and only then he admitted the truth.
 

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Even when it comes out that this guy made it all up, nothing will happen to him. People will instead focus on "Trump's atmosphere of hate" that allowed this to seem plausible.

It always comes down to "Orange Man Bad."
 

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Even Tim is saying wait for evidence.

So he wore the noose for 45 mins?? Or thin rope.
 
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https://people.com/tv/jussie-smollett-chicago-police-assailants-called-out-maga-apparent-hate-crime/

The Sun-Times reported that Guglielmi said Smollett did not initially want to tell police what happened because of his high-profile career, but his manager finally called 911 around 2:45 a.m. local time. According to the Sun-Times, when police showed up to speak to Smollett, he still had a “thin, light rope” around his neck. Guglielmi added to the outlet that it didn’t necessarily resemble a noose.

The Sun-Times reported that officers, who turned off their body cams for the interview per Smollett’s request, then told him to go to the hospital for his face and neck cuts. Smollett was released from the hospital later in the day on Tuesday.
 

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Even if specific evidence of the attack isnt filmed I at least would like to see footage of 2 people, on video, that fit the description, at least in a 2 to 3 block radius.

That cant be to hard to find right? How many people were out at 2am, in the freezing cold, SOME WHERE in that area.

There has to be SOME THING. It's a major city and under high surveillance.
 

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Nobody_Important Nobody_Important Hey, if reait's real, it's real anit's terrible its terrible.

But, if I have time later, I will paste up the HUGE list of fake hate crimes perpetrated over the last 2 years. It's a pretty staggering number of people that have lied about attacks.

We live in a time where the media lies to is (I think it's been 3 to 4 lies and it's only Jan.?) And a time where people lie about hate/politically motivated attacks.

9 out of 10 times it's liberals/progressives making false reports.

You remember in Houston last year? Black kid lied about the truck full of white supremacists? Yeah, never happened.
Nobody reported the truth afterwards, we just the internet up in flames for a week raging about whitey stealing black kids.
 

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If this attack did happen as he says then I hope the pieces of shit that did it are removed from society for a long time, if not permanently, however if it's lie I hope that he will be made an example of to dissuade these kind of fake crimes to spin a narrative, the way all those fake hate crimes against muslims happened.

There's so much fishy stuff here. Reports were saying they were wearing MAGA hats but that was already proven to be false, they obviously didn't shout "this is MAGA country" in Chicago as Chicgo is as far removed from MAGA country as you can be. He was still wearing the rope 45 minutes later at his friends house? Like wtf? if I was out of danger, the first thing I would do is remove the rope. The rope was a clothesline that seemed brand new. He was attacked in a rich area with tons of security cameras yet none of them captured anything, nor were there any witnesses, and the only footage they do have of him is him eating at subway without incident. So I'm gonna wait to form an opinion until more facts emerge, but I definitely have a few reasons that make me question his story.

Of course OP jumped on this story because the races and sexual orientations of the perps(?) and victims suit his narrative and despite the fact that the black on white violent crimes happen much more often (many of which are hate crimes even though they'll never be treated as such), you'll never EVER see the OP post about those, unless it's to defend the perps, and portray them as the "true victims".
 

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Its...ALWAYS liberals so THATS why.

he Texas family whose car and motorcycle were burned, and whose garage was spray-painted with “n—-r lover”, only to have his wife later reveal that her husband had hoaxed the community by doing it himself.http://www.dallasnews.com/news/crime/2016/12/23/denton-man-set-vehicles-ablaze-painted-racial-slur-garage-door-wife-says

The black, “white supremacist” arrested for the infamous burned-down black church which had “Vote Trump” written on it: http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/fire-marshal-politics-motive-vote-trump-arson-44341228

South Philly graffiti — **”Black Bitch”, “Trump Rules” — arrest made, turns out to be black “white supremacist” : http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/real-time/S-Jersey-man-arrested-in-post-election-vandalism-in-South-Philly.html?mobi=true

Young lady who was arrested for fabricating a story about an attack by racists on a NYC subway while yelling “Donald Trump”: http://ijr.com/2016/12/757186-muslim-teen-caught-lying-about-trump-inspired-assault-gets-humiliating-punishment/

Young lady from Ann Arbor who fabricated a terrifying tale of a Trump supporter threatening that he’d burn the hijab off of her if she didn’t take it off: http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/ann-arbor-police-womans-story-about-being-force-to-remove-hijab-did-not-occur

University of Louisiana at Lafayette student who now admits she fabricated her claim that men wearing Trump hats attacked her, knocked her down, and stole her headscarf: http://klfy.com/2016/11/10/lafayette-pd-ul-student-made-up-story-about-attack-stolen-hijab/

The brown “white supremacist” arrested for writing KKK and swastikas at Nassau community college: http://patch.com/new-york/gardencity/man-who-drew-swastikas-across-nassau-community-college-arrested-police

The Bowling Green student who was arrested after falsely claiming she was attacked and taunted with racial slurs by MAGA-gear wearing Trump supporters: http://www.wtol.com/story/33736486/bgsu-student-charged-after-reporting-fake-assault

Another student at BGSU who fabricated a story about a robbery and derogatory slur : http://www.toledoblade.com/Police-Fire/2016/11/19/BGSU-Second-report-of-slur-attack-false-too.html

A black man in Malden (Boston area) who claimed he was forced to run for his life after being threatened with lynching, chased, and told that “It’?s Trump country now”, but then admitted he fabricated the story: http://www.bostonherald.com/news/local_coverage/2016/11/man_admits_to_faking_hate_crime_in_malden

The man who hung a nazi flag in SF (incidentally, across the street from his neighbors whose family members were Holocaust victims), only to later explain he was making an anti-Trump political statement: http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/San-Francisco-homeowner-s-Nazi-flag-protest-of-10605083.php

The “courageous” throat-punching, racist-stomping woman who claimed to have bashed the fash only to be inexplicably handcuffed for her trouble, but who police say fabricated the incident: http://www.mndaily.com/article/2016/11/umpd-not-involved-in-handcuffed-university-student

The woman who was supposedly threatened at a gas station with a gun by Trump supporters, but who never contacted police and has now deleted her accusation: http://www.phillyvoice.com/police-no-official-report-ugly-racial-incident-del-gas-station/

Williams College students who admitted they wrote KKK graffiti and dumped fake blood in a church to ?bring attention to the effects of the presidential election: http://williamsrecord.com/2016/11/16/two-students-admit-to-vandalizing-griffin-hall-on-saturday/

Bisexual North Park University student who school says fabricated hateful pro-Trump messages: http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/north-park-fabricated-notes-402556366.html

An Elon University hate message that received national attention “Bye bye latinos hasta la vista” but was later revealed to be written by a Latino student who was upset about the results of the election and wrote the message as a “satirical commentary”: http://www.elonnewsnetwork.com/article/2016/11/note-found-whiteboard-kivette-bye-bye-latinos

These Wellesley college kids, accused of screaming racist and homophobic slurs, but were cleared of charges when it was determined they were only yelling “Make America Great Again” — incident took place in front of “Harambee House” (kek!): http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2016/12/19/pro-trump-babson-students-cleared-wellesley-victory-incident/RsIfPd27sNxqiXvnwOrhTJ/story.html

etc etc etc

This is the tip of the iceberg..I could find 100 more if I had time.
 
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If this attack did happen as he says then I hope the pieces of shit that did it are removed from society for a long time, if not permanently, however if it's lie I hope that he will be made an example of to dissuade these kind of fake crimes to spin a narrative, the way all those fake hate crimes against muslims happened.

There's so much fishy stuff here. Reports were saying they were wearing MAGA hats but that was already proven to be false, they obviously didn't shout "this is MAGA country" in Chicago as Chicgo is as far removed from MAGA country as you can be. He was still wearing the rope 45 minutes later at his friends house? Like wtf? if I was out of danger, the first thing I would do is remove the rope. The rope was a clothesline that seemed brand new. He was attacked in a rich area with tons of security cameras yet none of them captured anything, nor were there any witnesses, and the only footage they do have of him is him eating at subway without incident. So I'm gonna wait to form an opinion until more facts emerge, but I definitely have a few reasons that make me question his story.

Of course OP jumped on this story because the races and sexual orientations of the perps(?) and victims suit his narrative and despite the fact that the black on white violent crimes happen much more often (many of which are hate crimes even though they'll never be treated as such), you'll never EVER see the OP post about those, unless it's to defend the perps, and portray them as the "true victims".
Supposedly they have seen footage of him outside as well. From CBS: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jussie-smollett-empire-actor-had-noose-around-his-neck-when-police-arrived/

Twelve detectives and a number of FBI agents are now investigating what has been classified as a possible hate crime. But sources said they have seen security video of Smollett outdoors early Tuesday morning and nothing of an assault. Detectives have expanded the search area for video of the alleged assailants but haven't found any footage or witnesses.
 

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Its...ALWAYS liberals so THATS why.

he Texas family whose car and motorcycle were burned, and whose garage was spray-painted with “n—-r lover”, only to have his wife later reveal that her husband had hoaxed the community by doing it himself.http://www.dallasnews.com/news/crime/2016/12/23/denton-man-set-vehicles-ablaze-painted-racial-slur-garage-door-wife-says

The black, “white supremacist” arrested for the infamous burned-down black church which had “Vote Trump” written on it: http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/fire-marshal-politics-motive-vote-trump-arson-44341228

South Philly graffiti — **”Black Bitch”, “Trump Rules” — arrest made, turns out to be black “white supremacist” : http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/real-time/S-Jersey-man-arrested-in-post-election-vandalism-in-South-Philly.html?mobi=true

Young lady who was arrested for fabricating a story about an attack by racists on a NYC subway while yelling “Donald Trump”: http://ijr.com/2016/12/757186-muslim-teen-caught-lying-about-trump-inspired-assault-gets-humiliating-punishment/

Young lady from Ann Arbor who fabricated a terrifying tale of a Trump supporter threatening that he’d burn the hijab off of her if she didn’t take it off: http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/ann-arbor-police-womans-story-about-being-force-to-remove-hijab-did-not-occur

University of Louisiana at Lafayette student who now admits she fabricated her claim that men wearing Trump hats attacked her, knocked her down, and stole her headscarf: http://klfy.com/2016/11/10/lafayette-pd-ul-student-made-up-story-about-attack-stolen-hijab/

The brown “white supremacist” arrested for writing KKK and swastikas at Nassau community college: http://patch.com/new-york/gardencity/man-who-drew-swastikas-across-nassau-community-college-arrested-police

The Bowling Green student who was arrested after falsely claiming she was attacked and taunted with racial slurs by MAGA-gear wearing Trump supporters: http://www.wtol.com/story/33736486/bgsu-student-charged-after-reporting-fake-assault

Another student at BGSU who fabricated a story about a robbery and derogatory slur : http://www.toledoblade.com/Police-Fire/2016/11/19/BGSU-Second-report-of-slur-attack-false-too.html

A black man in Malden (Boston area) who claimed he was forced to run for his life after being threatened with lynching, chased, and told that “It’?s Trump country now”, but then admitted he fabricated the story: http://www.bostonherald.com/news/local_coverage/2016/11/man_admits_to_faking_hate_crime_in_malden

The man who hung a nazi flag in SF (incidentally, across the street from his neighbors whose family members were Holocaust victims), only to later explain he was making an anti-Trump political statement: http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/San-Francisco-homeowner-s-Nazi-flag-protest-of-10605083.php

The “courageous” throat-punching, racist-stomping woman who claimed to have bashed the fash only to be inexplicably handcuffed for her trouble, but who police say fabricated the incident: http://www.mndaily.com/article/2016/11/umpd-not-involved-in-handcuffed-university-student

The woman who was supposedly threatened at a gas station with a gun by Trump supporters, but who never contacted police and has now deleted her accusation: http://www.phillyvoice.com/police-no-official-report-ugly-racial-incident-del-gas-station/

Williams College students who admitted they wrote KKK graffiti and dumped fake blood in a church to ?bring attention to the effects of the presidential election: http://williamsrecord.com/2016/11/16/two-students-admit-to-vandalizing-griffin-hall-on-saturday/

Bisexual North Park University student who school says fabricated hateful pro-Trump messages: http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/north-park-fabricated-notes-402556366.html

An Elon University hate message that received national attention “Bye bye latinos hasta la vista” but was later revealed to be written by a Latino student who was upset about the results of the election and wrote the message as a “satirical commentary”: http://www.elonnewsnetwork.com/article/2016/11/note-found-whiteboard-kivette-bye-bye-latinos

These Wellesley college kids, accused of screaming racist and homophobic slurs, but were cleared of charges when it was determined they were only yelling “Make America Great Again” — incident took place in front of “Harambee House” (kek!): http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2016/12/19/pro-trump-babson-students-cleared-wellesley-victory-incident/RsIfPd27sNxqiXvnwOrhTJ/story.html

etc etc etc

This is the tip of the iceberg..I could find 100 more if I had time.
Gonna bookmark this post so I can use it in the future if you don't mind.
 

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I am just really curious what were these 2 guys doing? Is the part of the story where they sent him a letter before the event still true?

Why were they covered head to toe and wearing ski masks, and how come they had a rope and chemicals with them? And if they attacked him outside his apartment then it feels like they were stalking him.

IMO this wasn't random, this was a planned attack. My concern is that he isn't the only one. Kinda a B-List celebrity to target. What if they have more people they plan to attack?
 

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Anyone convicted of carrying out this attack should be punished severely. Does anyone disagree? Doubt it. Everything else is mostly just grandstanding.

That said, the old "If something sounds too good to be true" applies. Every incident I can think of that fit Trump-haters' desired narrative too closely turned out to be wildly misreported.
 

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Anyone convicted of carrying out this attack should be punished severely. Does anyone disagree? Doubt it. Everything else is mostly just grandstanding.

That said, the old "If something sounds too good to be true" applies. Every incident I can think of that fit Trump-haters' desired narrative too closely turned out to be wildly misreported.
Hes a good boogie man.

Just like the media tells us theres SWARMS of White Supremacists/Nazis EVERYWHERE...but then the ADL and SPLC list it around 10,000..I'll even double that number to account for 'secret Nazis'..
So, 20,000 actual Nazis in a country of 300+ million...
 

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This dumb fucking response is part of the problem. How about we do talk about - because its important.

Lets not bury the racist MAGA agenda because it's convenient for right wing sickos
Hey, I can do the same thing as you. What a dumb response! Once again, this was a political slogan, trying to equate it to a hate group is asinine. DO we call you all sickos when a maga hat wearer gets assaulted.

You guys just couldn't wait to pounce as soon as the story changed. How ridiculous.
 
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Regardless of where you stand on this story, I think many us can agree what a freaking shit show social media is: https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/kevin-hart-criticized-telling-jussie-smollett-stay-strong-homophobic-attack-124107697.html

Tuesday’s news that Empire star Jussie Smollett was attacked in what Chicago police are investigating as a suspected hate crime has prompted outrage and sadness from several high-profile figures, including Zendaya, Steve Harvey and Cher. Nancy Pelosi called it “an affront to our humanity,” while Emma Watson lashed out at the “ugly prejudice and bigotry behind this violence.”

Kevin Hart also voiced his disgust at the attack, during which police say the openly gay Smollett was subjected to racist and homophobic slurs while a noose was put around his neck and an “unknown chemical substance” was poured on him. Smollett also confirmed to police that his two attackers shouted, “MAGA country.”

Hart addressed the “unbelievably sad” attack in an Instagram post and a video posted to Instagram Stories, in which he decried society going “backwards.”

“We as people have to do better,” the comedian wrote. “WTF is going on the world???? Why are we falling in love with hate???? … I will forever choose love and I will continue to teach my kids how to do the same. Stand strong brother.”

Despite the seemingly heartfelt statement, Hart is facing new scrutiny over the homophobic jokes he made during old stand-up routines and on Twitter. The off-color remarks, in which Hart joked about discouraging his son from being gay, caused backlash that resulted in his stepping down from hosting this year’s Oscars ceremony. Ellen DeGeneres was also criticized for saying Hart should be given a “second chance.”
 
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Not sure what you mean?

All I am seeing is celebrities speaking out against a disgusting attack on one of their colleagues.
And that's what Hart did. And he was attacked by social media losers over a joke he has long apologized for. How many times must he apologize? Nothing is ever good enough to these people.
 
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And that's what Hart did. And he was attacked by social media losers over a joke he has long apologized for. How many times must he apologize? Nothing is ever good enough to these people.
Those two things are not connected though. Him speaking out about this injustice doesn't magically absolve him for something he did in his past.
 
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this story seems so fishy to me

it's just *too* conveniently in-line with every SJW talking point. A gay black celebrity being assaulted by EBIL TRUMP SUPPORTING NAZIIIIS... yehuh... sure. it's perfectly tuned to generate some sensationalist headlines for a few days. then in a few weeks it will be revealed as a fake and no major news outlets will even mention it (like the whole Kavanaugh fiasco)
 

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So, i'm kind of leaning towards team#fakenews tbh. If they can't find footage of the event in an area with high surveillance then I don't really see think it's likely that such an event occured. Will eat crow if i'm wrong.
I guess I don’t see what’s so suspect. He’s supposed to live in fear and never leave his house? Celebrities get this shit all the time. He probably lives in a nice area and feels safe there.
Regardless of the area you live in, if you receive a suspicious note implying that you will be attacked and possibly killed you notify someone and take precautions.

As for the story, I don't know, it just sounds... wacky? I mean their are so many questions I have about this attack because as it stands, it kind of doesn't make sense to me. I already brought up the lack of footage and why the victim didn't take precautions or notify anyone after he received a threatening letter despite that being something a celebrity would do in this situation, but I also have to ask why the criminals were just waiting for him outside with the noose and some bleach? Were they staking out all night hoping that he would leave in the middle of the night for some reason? I imagine that would be a risky plan, not to mention it relies on the victim going out himself, what if he had made someone else go and get him food? If Jussie had been cautious after receiving the letter that would've been a likely outcome, they would've had to have planned for him not to beef up security. If this was planned I don't know why they would just leave it to chance like that. Also the first thing they say when they see him is "Aren't you that f***ot 'Empire' n*****?"... which doesn't sound like something anybody would say imo, i'd be less skeptical if was "Aren't you that F***ot from Empire?" and then they followed up on that with a threat using nigger. Having both slurs awkwardly put into the statement like that isn't something that a person would do imo and it comes off as phony to me. Furthermore, why would they even say this? If this was indeed a planned attack they would have no reason to do so, especially if they have the element of surprise and if they said this because it wasn't a planned attack and they just so happened to run into him then I have'd to question why they had masks on and had the bleach and a noose handy... I don't know, maybe i'm overthinking it.

Theirs a lot of weird with this story for me so i'm gonna wait for the facts...
 
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The insinuation that OP wouldn't care now that the alleged victim is part Jewish is disgusting and not the gotcha bullshit you think it is.