For you sure but a console only gamer is wasting at least half the the cost of the system on a handheld that will never leave the docking station. If someone is not interested in handheld gaming the current rumored NX is not for them. I hope the rumor is false and we see a TV only console at launch with the handheld. So then everyone can have something they want.
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Eurogamer: NX = portable w/ carts, detachable controllers, Tegra, TV Out, no BC, Sept
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For you sure but a console only gamer is wasting at least half the the cost of the system on a handheld that will never leave the docking station. If someone is not interested in handheld gaming the current rumored NX is not for them. I hope the rumor is false and we see a TV only console at launch with the handheld. So then everyone can have something they want.
I have no idea. Their new account system isn't implemented into much yet. 3DS and Wii U still has to rely on the old ways of doing things.
Since the rumor shows I could still get a console like experience, I'd be okay with this. Being able to take the games anywhere could also be a nice bonus. That being said, I never put any stock in rumors, regardless of whatever insider says it. I'll wait for Nintendo to unveil the NX themselves.
Mihos
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In that case, my shield portable, psp, phone, tablet, jxd s192, gpdxd, turbo express, rdp, sega nomad, gcw zero, and Vega + are all hybrid systems
Schnozberry
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We're presuming that Eurogamer has the most up to date information, which is a dubious assumption at best.
Obliterator
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If this has the X2 in it, which I'm really starting to believe it does, things get A LOT more interesting
calc84maniac
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Wasn't the release delayed from initial projections? I imagine that if Nintendo is in deep with Nvidia they would be able to get the new chip hot off the line.
The dev units are overclocked. This is an indication that what the devs are getting might not fully reflect the final product.
I think the removable controller pieces factor into that definition as well
I realized that some of you are having problems visualizing the concept so I made this mock-up explaining all of the possible uses for the NX concept based on the original drawing from Eurogamer.
In this first picture, you can see the NX in its most basic form a simple device that can play simple games like Professor Layton or even Mario Kart with its motion sensors and touch screen.
If you turn it in portrait mode the NX plays mobile games (ported or created for mobile like Nintendo upcoming mobile games.) like a champ.
Once things get more complex let's say, Zelda, you slide in the control modules.
(I think that sliding it instead of attaching it will help with durability) as you can see in this picture each of the controller pieces being connected have their own simple gyros as well and could be used as a Wii-Mote.
In this form, you can play games as you would with a 3DS (but with a full set of buttons) when not using the main unit you slide the controllers in a simple shell in order to have a standard controller.
Now you can use the main unit in its base connected to a TV or use the main unit as a monitor.
And using the stand you can enjoy video apps.
Finally, when connected to its doc outputting to the TV the screen could show some basic info (like the gamepad) or be turned off (like the gamepad) in order to charge faster .
I hope this helps to illustrate the NX concept.
In this first picture, you can see the NX in its most basic form a simple device that can play simple games like Professor Layton or even Mario Kart with its motion sensors and touch screen.
If you turn it in portrait mode the NX plays mobile games (ported or created for mobile like Nintendo upcoming mobile games.) like a champ.
Once things get more complex let's say, Zelda, you slide in the control modules.
(I think that sliding it instead of attaching it will help with durability) as you can see in this picture each of the controller pieces being connected have their own simple gyros as well and could be used as a Wii-Mote.
In this form, you can play games as you would with a 3DS (but with a full set of buttons) when not using the main unit you slide the controllers in a simple shell in order to have a standard controller.
Now you can use the main unit in its base connected to a TV or use the main unit as a monitor.
And using the stand you can enjoy video apps.
Finally, when connected to its doc outputting to the TV the screen could show some basic info (like the gamepad) or be turned off (like the gamepad) in order to charge faster .
I hope this helps to illustrate the NX concept.
The issue is the size of the SoC. They can't make it much bigger, if at all, so it could only be about 40% better than the X1, tops.
You'd be surprised how late in the game final kits are sent out. They could still have until around October, especially since Pascal and Maxwell are extremely similar. I'm still not sure how much I buy that it was delayed for games and nothing else.
I think you're on to something.
I've never forgotten the original Wii U hype video, where two people are playing reversi on the GamePad. The inference was that the GamePad can detach home gaming from the television, and users could play all sorts of games together independent of the console/TV tether.
Of course, we know this never really materialized, for a variety of reasons. The NX would be able to deliver on that quite easily. Gaming not just on your TV, but in your home, on the road, etc.
Mihos
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I have external controllers for pretty much every one of those systems
i guess it depends on costs then. nintendo's modus operandi since the 90s has basically been how to get people to playing their game as fast as possible. iwata seemed to be happy to announce the reduction in load times, and it was a main feature in the new 3ds.
Obliterator
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Given the rumors of Nvidia being desperate for a console "win" to the point they were willing to give Nintendo a crazy deal, the sudden seemingly delay and no show at E3 of NX, and the overclocked X1 chips using added cooling I think there is quite a bit of evidence X2 could be this consoles architecture. Also DF brought up a great point about how silent Nvidia actually is on X2 performance and things get interesting
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Active cooling and loud fans for a Tegra X1 doesn't make a ton of sense. That's what I'm curious about.
Ok my friend you got it! Now I'm almost sold on this idea!! I can see this being a thing.
No way I'm fitting that in my pocket
castaction
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If nintendo market the nx like this im all in
Schnozberry
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It only makes sense if you're overclocking the CPU and Memory to match the clocks of a newer part coming in a final kit.
I realized that some of you are having problems visualizing the concept so I made this mock-up explaining all of the possible uses for the NX concept based on the original drawing from Eurogamer.
In this first picture, you can see the NX in its most basic form a simple device that can play simple games like Professor Layton or even Mario Kart with its motion sensors and touch screen.
If you turn it in portrait mode the NX plays mobile games (ported or created for mobile like Nintendo upcoming mobile games.) like a champ.
Once things get more complex let's say, Zelda, you slide in the control modules.
(I think that sliding it instead of attaching it will help with durability) as you can see in this picture each of the controller pieces being connected have their own simple gyros as well and could be used as a Wii-Mote.
In this form, you can play games as you would with a 3DS (but with a full set of buttons) when not using the main unit you slide the controllers in a simple shell in order to have a standard controller.
Now you can use the main unit in its base connected to a TV or use the main unit as a monitor.
And using the stand you can enjoy video apps.
Finally, when connected to its doc outputting to the TV the screen could show some basic info (like the gamepad) or be turned off (like the gamepad) in order to charge faster .
I hope this helps to illustrate the NX concept.
I like how the motion controllers have cuts for the screen and middle pad thing to slide in. Maybe any mobile screen can fit into this thing.
Fantastical
Death Prophet
Damn... how bulky is this thing going to be? 
This is about 5.5'' without scale it's hard to imagine the actual size.
And just to post a little exemple of the kind of thing that will make it huge and super mainstream.
Imagine you got kids, 2 kids, and you're in a dense traffic stuck in the car, it's raining. They're bored. They can take their NX, unplugged the controllers, put the screen between them on the seat, and play some game, i don't know, some tennis game on the screen with their two controllers.
Do you see the 80' commercial to ? With the 2 kids playing at the back of the car (they kept their belt of course!)?
I hope you read that in Don Draper's voice!
Imagine you got kids, 2 kids, and you're in a dense traffic stuck in the car, it's raining. They're bored. They can take their NX, unplugged the controllers, put the screen between them on the seat, and play some game, i don't know, some tennis game on the screen with their two controllers.
Do you see the 80' commercial to ? With the 2 kids playing at the back of the car (they kept their belt of course!)?
I hope you read that in Don Draper's voice!
Neoleo2143
Member
Damn... how bulky is this thing going to be?
Probably not that much worse than i-pad in a thick case. Pretty easy to stuff in a bag.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Wii name is dead. Nintendo Go, maybe.
Majukun
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the delay as probably due to them wanting to have a huge lineup of game s for day one and the months following
the whole thing regarding not wanting to be copied by their rivals was probably PR bullshit
NowhereFaded
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Question for the insiders here in gaf. What are the odds destiny comes to NX?? Day zero if so, with some D on the go!! Would be sweet. Zelda looks sic too!
My gut feeling which could still be wildly wrong is that it's not that big. We know 3-5'' screens were rumored and that's in 3DS to 3DS XL top screen range. Then you've got the controllers, sure, but who knows quite how those fit onto the system. The bottom line for me is that the JP market IIRC has shown a strong preference for smaller handhelds so I'd be pretty surprised to see it be iPad size.
Not an insider, but I imagine it is 5% at this point. Sorry.
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Wouldn't Destiny on the go require a constant WiFI connection or for the system to have 3G/4G? I thought Destiny was an always-online game.
Actually, the Shield TV has active cooling. It's very quiet though.
Also, as I said before, all of the current consoles had far more powerful early dev kits than the final versions, though it is possible that all of them were simply downgraded.
I just hope Nintendo isn't trying to compete with Apple and make an iPad for kids. This thing needs to be easily portable. If it's the same size as an iPad that won't be good. I definitely wouldn't take it outside the house.
There's no way I'm putting a 3ds or vita in my pocket either. They belong in a case, in your bag, imo. I guess for all the cargo pants people out there this is a major let down, but who wears cargo pants
Jk I do realize pocket ability is a good thing, but I don't think very many people are going about their days with a 3ds in their pocket all day. I guess it's good for a trip to the pooper while at work, but I don't think anyone should really be doing that lol. Yall playing games in the bathroom for an hour while everyone else is working
I wonder if the "appeal to the casuals" thing might be the fact that you can use the thing as a standard tablet rather than just a handheld gaming console. I wonder if Nintendo plans on using it as a tablet device that is able to browse the internet and use apps on the go just as much as making it an actual gaming console. If it uses the Android architecture as rumored, that might be how it works.
That way it's literally a tablet + a 3DS + a home console all in one package which could be killer depending on the price.
That way it's literally a tablet + a 3DS + a home console all in one package which could be killer depending on the price.
ZombiePlatypus
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Didn't think about it from a parent perspective. Man September needs to hurry up and get here.
NintenGo?
Fantastical
Death Prophet
I'm not an insider, but I can't see that happening. I would assume that this won't get any Western third party support and go from there.
This rumor explicitly says it's not Android and anyways I would not imagine it running Android. That's just not how Nintendo rolls.
I realized that some of you are having problems visualizing the concept so I made this mock-up explaining all of the possible uses for the NX concept based on the original drawing from Eurogamer.
In this first picture, you can see the NX in its most basic form a simple device that can play simple games like Professor Layton or even Mario Kart with its motion sensors and touch screen.
If you turn it in portrait mode the NX plays mobile games (ported or created for mobile like Nintendo upcoming mobile games.) like a champ.
Once things get more complex let's say, Zelda, you slide in the control modules.
(I think that sliding it instead of attaching it will help with durability) as you can see in this picture each of the controller pieces being connected have their own simple gyros as well and could be used as a Wii-Mote.
In this form, you can play games as you would with a 3DS (but with a full set of buttons) when not using the main unit you slide the controllers in a simple shell in order to have a standard controller.
Now you can use the main unit in its base connected to a TV or use the main unit as a monitor.
And using the stand you can enjoy video apps.
Finally, when connected to its doc outputting to the TV the screen could show some basic info (like the gamepad) or be turned off (like the gamepad) in order to charge faster .
I hope this helps to illustrate the NX concept.
Why bother with the extra piece when detaching the controllers from the screen? Just shove a start and select on the detachable controller and call it a day, its more comfortable and cheaper.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Right, which is why I'm confused. Super loud fans means it has to be overclocked and maybe a placeholder for a new chip.
But if the SCD is physically connected (not a LAN / router) with a high-bandwidth port (i.e like Thunderbolt 3.0) there would be no ping since it's not going over the internet, locally.
gregor7777
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Very excited to hear the price. I'm guessing (hoping) $249 or less. I'd buy it at that price.
EDIT: unless there are ergonomic issues
EDIT: unless there are ergonomic issues
BTW, Leizt, loving your mock-up but I think Eurogamer clarified via Twitter that each side of the HH is its own separate detachable controller, so there are two separate detachable controllers on the HH. Maybe I misunderstood the image but it looked to me like you were going for a 0.5 + 0.5 = 1 controller idea (which is what I'd originally thought was the case, too.)
I agree. I have to imagine the bundled HH and dock will also include an extra controller, or allow you to buy a separate one (a different one than the detachable ones).
I like the idea, but FWIW I think the Eurogamer article said a proprietary OS was expected.
I agree. I have to imagine the bundled HH and dock will also include an extra controller, or allow you to buy a separate one (a different one than the detachable ones).
I like the idea, but FWIW I think the Eurogamer article said a proprietary OS was expected.
That could be a good marketing slogan for NX. Your restroom trips will never be the same with an NX.Yall playing games in the bathroom for an hour while everyone else is working
Tom Nook Sawyer
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As I already clarified, I wasn't talking about local SCDs; the entire conversation stemmed from a Cloud-based solution, which is what I was addressing
Devilinthiscity
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So it's basically this
I didn't think it was possible, but that thing looks more hideous than the Wii U game pad.
I wonder how aesthetically pleasing it will look. I hope it's something simple and sleek. Preferably black instead of white.
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