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Eurogamer's 2014 Game of the Year is...

Let me get it out of the way: Oh my god, no Tropical Freeze?

Why should it be there?

Also, lol at the Bayo 2 Brigade. You guys will experience a lot less emotional distress if you don't go into every GOTY thread expressing shock at why Bayo 2 is not in some position on the list or another. I have to give credit where it's due though, y'all have a lot of heart :-)

I haven't played many original games published in 2014 yet, but I'd have to say that out of those I played, MK8 is my current game of the year. Very pleasing on the eyes, solid framerate (not necessarily in split screen local multiplayer, though), very fluid, responsive, and intuitive controls, great mechanics that can be appreciated by novices and pros alike, tracks galore, probably the best implementation of DLC we've seen in a while, and fun for the whole family. MK8 wins, in my book. But of course, that's just my humble opinion. Which is apparently one that EuroGamer agrees with.
 
I guess it's a given then that the Eurogamer GOTY list is their opinion. No one is right or wrong, other than you hating on RoS as it kicks fucking ass.

I wasn't "hating" on it, I just think it's a pretty odd choice considering it's just an expansion when there are plenty of other more worthy titles to put that spot in for.

Me hating on something would be me saying I think RoS sucks, which is also untrue.
 
I wasn't "hating" on it, I just think it's a pretty odd choice considering it's just an expansion when there are plenty of other more worthy titles to put that spot in for.

Me hating on something would be me saying I think RoS sucks, which is also untrue.

I'd include it in my top 10 of the year as well. What would be your list?
 
While it lost it's lustre after about a week for me, MK8 is hands down an excellent game, especially once you add in the DLC.

But that top ten is wank. Seriously dodgy taste from Eurogamer there.
 
I'd include it in my top 10 of the year as well. What would be your list?

Well for one, the fact that DA:I alone is not on this list makes me already disqualify that list. XD

I think Gaf had a thread about Gaf GOTY voting. I posted my top 10 in that thread if you want to see.
 
Metal Gear Solid 5: Ground Zeroes
So we're just letting anything qualify now. Well, I nominate this for my GOTY then:

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Well for one, the fact that DA:I alone is not on this list makes me already disqualify that list. XD

I think Gaf had a thread about Gaf GOTY voting. I posted my top 10 in that thread if you want to see.

I wouldn't include DA either as I've not played it. Can't be bothered looking really, you could just copy it over.
 
Alien would be higher in my list, but at least it figures on theirs.
 
I have to say I'm quite surprised. Games like Mario Kart and Smash, despite being very well received series, rarely win GotY awards. It's usually just racing/fighting for them.



You can't really say that it's because of it being on Vita. I mean this is a thread about a Wii U game winning GotY.

Actually its a thread about Eurogamer's GotY nominations/list. A Wii U game just happened to be the winner. This thread is just as much about the other consoles games as it is about Wii U.
 
I mean at least explain why you think it isn't the case then. I agree that going into the thread for an outlet's GOTY and expressing distaste that it isn't YOUR GOTY is silly (especially, as you say, for the Bayonetta 2 fantasists), but at least then elaborate.

First and foremost, I'm not fully, but at least partially informed, in that I haven't finished the game but have put quite some time into it. I have tried to play it several times, I really have, but each time I've ended up putting it down and not coming back to it immediately.

Anyway, for starters, out of the games released in 2014, it's relatively low on the Metacritic scale, with an 83. As another GAFer in this thread also mentioned, the game's review from EuroGamer (whose "best games" list is the subject of this thread) themselves was relatively lukewarm. Now onto my own opinion...

I can't out my finger on it, because the game is colorful and well animated, but something about it feels somewhat bland and uninspired. I found the levels to be too long (if you need TWO checkpoints, yea, your levels might be too long), which might not actually be a problem if they were actually fun. I feel Donkey Kong himself handles awkwardly; slow (it feels as if only has one speed), heavy (which I can feel every time I jump), and the rolling mechanic leaves something to be desired. At least in past DKC games, if you had problems with the way one Kong handled (which was a common complaint against, for example, Kiddy Kong in DKC3), then you can choose the other Kong as your primary and the "awkward" Kong as your partner. And maybe I missed something in the instruction manual, or the game itself, but this game does not give you that choice; seems like you have to play as Donkey Kong.

If you're not gonna give me a choice, at least make the character not feel awkward/heavy to handle. In platformers, I like my characters to be at a minimum balanced. Rayman in Origins felt awesome. Or, do what SMB2 and 3D World did, which is phucking absolutely, unequivocally genius: give you a CHOICE that actually affects GAMEPLAY. Want a balanced character? Mario. Want a fun, super jumpy, somewhat awkward character? Luigi. Want a slow, "heavy", floaty character? Peach. Want a super fast, easy to handle, but short on the jumps character? Toad (My personal favorite in those games, BTW).

Of course, everything I'm talking about is single player mode. Maybe the situation is different in multiplayer and I may actually be able to control Dixie, or Cranky, or whoever.

And not everything is bad, of course. David Wise is a man who never disappoints, with an amazing soundtrack. The levels are indeed detailed, colorful, and nice to look at, and I particularly like the "faux 3D" visuals. The different strategies revolving around your different partners is a very nice addition (I LOVE Cranky's ability to allow me to jump on dangerous surfaces).

So I don't think the game is terrible. I don't even think it's a bad game, and I'll give it a try again this year. But GOTY and "best 2D platformer ever" qualifications are definitely things I can't agree with. For me, MK8 fulfills the former, while Super Mario World / Rayman Origins fulfills the latter.
 
It's also an audiovisual wonder: the most beautiful game of the new hardware generation to date, a game that lights up your synapses as it laughs off the Wii U's horsepower deficit in a riot of colour, brilliant animation and blistering performance; a game that evokes the dazzling, long-lost wow factor of the arcade.

It's funny that Eurogamer considers Mario Kart 8 to be the most "beautiful game" of the "new hardware generation."

I kind of agree. It was the only game that surprised me graphically this year. Maybe it's because Mario Kart never was about graphics. The way the characters moved around effortlessly gliding around the track looked so cool.
 
Rayman Origins better than Tropical Freeze? Wow, I couldn't disagree more. I feel the latter bests the former in every way. Gameplay, challenge, level design, secrets, music... I guess you could argue about graphics and co-op. Ah well, to each his own.
 
Eurogamer knows what's up. It's also my #1 despite titles like Smash, DS II, DKTF and Bayonetta 2

just too damn hilarious
 
You can't really say that it's because of it being on Vita. I mean this is a thread about a Wii U game winning GotY.

Trust me, Vita is not treated as all the other consoles, many Vita games are not even reviewed, some of them don't even have metacritic averages that only need a minimum of 5 reviews IIRC! There is a lot more to say but let's finish this here before this becomes another Vita hate thread.
 
Rayman Origins better than Tropical Freeze? Wow, I couldn't disagree more. I feel the latter bests the former in every way. Gameplay, challenge, level design, secrets, music... I guess you could argue about graphics and co-op. Ah well, to each his own.

I've learned that GAF is a place where sometimes you just have to respectfully agree to disagree :-)

EDIT: also, I don't mean to keep coming back to Metacritic, but it's the only metric we have to gauge how the gaming critic base as a whole feels about a game. So how does DKC:TF compare against the Wii version of Rayman Origins? ;-)
 
I mean at least explain why you think it isn't the case then. I agree that going into the thread for an outlet's GOTY and expressing distaste that it isn't YOUR GOTY is silly (especially, as you say, for the Bayonetta 2 fantasists), but at least then elaborate.

The onus is on the person implying that Tropical Freeze should be on the list, not the person asking why in response.
 
Enlighten me guys;

I've never played Destiny (I don't care that much for shooters) but I do see it pop up every now and then on GoTY lists of mags/sites and the general public. In general they acknowledge the game has it's flaws but still think it's fun and put a lot of time into it. So why do I see some posters discredit Eurogamer because of it?
Because it's qualified how one of the most disappointing game of the 2014. Shouldn't have to be in the top ten. What general public consensus you are talking about exactly? Ign or gamespot readers? It's a common fps multiplayer game at the end without anything of so special. And if I'm not wrong it's not even that well received from the reviewers.
 
I've learned that GAF is a place where sometimes you just have to respectfully agree to disagree :-)

EDIT: also, I don't mean to keep coming back to Metacritic, but it's the only metric we have to gauge how the gaming critic base as a whole feels about a game. So how does DKC:TF compare against the Wii version of Rayman Origins? ;-)

I don't really take Metacritic seriously, as too many critics favor shallow titles. It's why I was happy to read so many well-written motivations for Tropcial Freeze and Bayo 2 in the GAF GotY thread (though I will never get the love for Dragon Age, opinions eh). I like Origins btw, just not nearly as much as DK: TF.
 
Never got the appeal of mario kart, but then I don't like racing.

Mario Kart 8 is easily one of the most beautiful video games ever made. Even if you don't like racing, it's a visual treat to experience.

Aside from that, the mechanics are absurdly tight and power-sliding around a corner is still just as much one of the most fun things you can do in video games as it was in Mario Kart 64.

My biggest problem with Mario Kart 8 is that it really focuses heavily on a multiplayer experience, either local or online, and playing by yourself is a pretty barebones runthrough of a few Cups and Time Trials.

As far as Destiny making this list, Eurogamer just smokin' crack.

Glad to see some lists without DA:I on them. Really is an embarrassment to the RPG genre.
Wait until Mass Effect 4 is pretty much just Dragon Age: Inquisition in space.
 
Mario Kart 8 is easily one of the most beautiful video games ever made. Even if you don't like racing, it's a visual treat to experience.

Aside from that, the mechanics are absurdly tight and power-sliding around a corner is still just as much one of the most fun things you can do in video games as it was in Mario Kart 64.

My biggest problem with Mario Kart 8 is that it really focuses heavily on a multiplayer experience, either local or online, and playing by yourself is a pretty barebones runthrough of a few Cups and Time Trials.

As far as Destiny making this list, Eurogamer just smokin' crack.
Oh God no please. It's pleasant to see but take away it to the list of the best graphic racing. Jeez, no, I can't even.
 
If you want to say that in English, I'll be happy to reply.
Very mature. Don't, please. That answer it's enough, thanks. Surely you know how to be very irritating when someone disagree with you. I'm not english, thanks to noticed it. My fault, sorry.
 
Very mature.

I don't even know what you're trying to say. That Mario Kart 8 only belongs on a list of "Best Graphics in a Racing Game"?

Mechanically, it's nearly perfection. I just wish it had a bit more window dressing to the single-player experience, is all.
 
How the fuck did Destiny get ahead of every one of those games below it?

I'm going to take a wild guess. Now this is kind of a crazy theory, but stay with me. I think...well...I think that maybe some of the guys at Eurogamer liked the game. Crazy, I know. My brain literally struggles to comprehend the concept that people can like things.
 
Mario Kart 8 is easily one of the most beautiful video games ever made. Even if you don't like racing, it's a visual treat to experience.
Mario Kart 8 is a lot of things, but the most beautiful video games ever made? No. It might be solidly among the most beautiful games made this year, but it wouldn't even crack the top ten of the last decade. The hyperbole around here is strong.
If you want to say that in English, I'll be happy to reply.
Way to be an ass by the way.
 
I don't really take Metacritic seriously, as too many critics favor shallow titles. It's why I was happy to read so many well-written motivations for Tropcial Freeze and Bayo 2 in the GAF GotY thread (though I will never get the love for Dragon Age, opinions eh). I like Origins btw, just not nearly as much as DK: TF.

I very much respect your views. Also, this discussion is... gentlemanly, almost. Ha!

I take a balanced approach, encompassing various things: my pre determined tastes, gaming websites such as GAF, and stuff like Metacritic. One small issue (nit) that I have with things like GAF is that, like another other enthusiast medium, the opinions most often seen are the ones of an extremely vocal minority, which then gets lost in an echo chamber, which means sometimes you lose perspective of gaming as a whole.

You know, there is a (much larger) gaming population outside of GAF, and they like things other than (or more than) DKC:TF or Bayonetta 2. Which is why Mario Kart 8, or even other games like Shadow or Mordor or Dragon Age, are perfectly fine as GOTY candidates and recipients.

EDIT: lol at me and my edits. As a disclaimer, I'm probably one of the biggest fans of the Donkey Kong Country trilogy on the Super Nintendo. I think they're some of the most masterfully crafted games ever. So I very much do like the series. It's just that the passionate minority got me sucked into the Tropical Freeze hype, and I was subsequently let down in a dramatic fashion.
 
Destiny deserved the second place... it is my personal GOTY... amazing game.

Congrats Mario Kart 8.

How the fuck did Destiny get ahead of every one of those games below it?
It is a better game in my opinion even with the flaws.
 
I don't even know what you're trying to say. That Mario Kart 8 only belongs on a list of "Best Graphics in a Racing Game"?

Mechanically, it's nearly perfection. I just wish it had a bit more window dressing, is all.
Seriously? My syntax could sucks but try to say it's completely incomprehensible, seems so 'snobbish'. I'm not sure what tried to say in the last part but I'm just said it's not surely one of the best graphic seen in a racing. Aliasing it's atrocious for example.
 
Destiny must be the first game that scored worse than the next 10 games(like LBP3, DA:I, Sunset Overdrive, Shadow of Mordor, FC4 etc) and beat them all to the GOTY lists.
 
When a game wins GOTY by default by being what is expected to be the bare minimum standard for quality (works right of the box, no day one patches, no unsavory micro-transactions, etc) is very telling how the industry is at its current state.

And Destiny...... I know it got the hype machine rolling with Day 2X reviews and a $500 million dollar backing but it's just too damn sad that it's at the 2nd of the list considering what the author's GOTY winner.
 
Seriously? My syntax could sucks but try to say it's completely incomprehensible, seems so 'snobbish'. I'm not sure what tried to say in the last part but I'm just said it's not surely one of the best graphic seen in a racing. Aliasing it's atrocious for example.

Between both Mario Kart 8 and Driveclub, this year, I preferred the visuals of MK8, personally.

But a game is not just its graphics and Mario Kart 8 is a title that doesn't look out of place on a Top 10 list.

It was Nintendo polishing and perfecting the tried and true karting formula they've been using for 20 years. Super Mario Kart was incredible in 1992, and Mario Kart 8 was still incredible in 2014.

Ya, it runs at 720p, but I think the nearly perfect 60fps was worth it.
 
Between both Mario Kart 8 and Driveclub, this year, I preferred the visuals of MK8, personally.

But a game is not just its graphics and Mario Kart 8 is a title that doesn't look out of place on a Top 10 list.

It was Nintendo polishing and perfecting the tried and true karting formula they've been using for 20 years. Super Mario Kart was incredible in 1992, and Mario Kart 8 was still incredible in 2014.

Ya, it runs at 720p, but I think the nearly perfect 60fps was worth it.
That's... a very eccentric opinion. But tastes are tastes. I don't even discuss the quality of the game, Nintendo knows how to develop excellent game but graphically it's another story.
 
That's... a very eccentric opinion. But tastes are tastes.

You're making a bigger deal out of the graphics than really matters. Even if Mario Kart 8 looked like shit, it still plays like a dream and that's what is important for a list like this.
 
That's... a very eccentric opinion. But tastes are tastes.

It's not really that baffling of an opinion. It's the choice between realistic graphics or non realistic. I and a lot of people prefer stylised graphics and art styles over anything just trying to mimic reality.
 
You're making a bigger deal out of the graphics than really matters. Even if Mario Kart 8 looked like shit, it still plays like a dream and that's what is important for a list like this.
But I don't even talked of the game. I just disqualified your statement about the graphic, to be honest.
It's not really that baffling of an opinion. It's the choice between realistic graphics or non realistic. I and a lot of people prefer stylised graphics and art styles over anything just trying to mimic reality.
But it's quite different to claim it's one best graphic seen in a racer.
 
But I don't even talked of the game. I just disqualified your statement about the graphic, to be honest.

But quite different to claim it's one best graphic seen in a racer.

The vibrant color, the unique identity of each track, the wide-camera showing off the incredible draw distance, the verticality of the tracks, the smooth-ass framerate, I've never played anything else like it.

Not to mention the obvious Nintendo nostalgia that comes along with it, that's big for me, but not for everyone. Seeing a lot of classic Nintendo stuff brought into the modern HD era blew my mind.
 
But it's quite different to claim it's one best graphic seen in a racer.

Well no it isn't because like I said, it's an entirely different graphic/art style and without a doubt the best looking of that style. Name me one better looking cartoony/stylised racer.
 
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