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Even Greta admits Climate Change is a socialist backdoor.

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That action must be powerful and wide-ranging. After all, the climate crisis is not just about the environment. It is a crisis of human rights, of justice, and of political will. Colonial, racist, and patriarchal systems of oppression have created and fueled it. We need to dismantle them all. Our political leaders can no longer shirk their responsibilities.
Yep climate change is about fighting racism and the patriarchy.
 

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Call them what they are: eco-fascists. Extinction Rebellion will graduate to violence in time, I’ve no doubt.
Only question is
will they merge with antifa
or will they fight them to the death because they are the wrong type of far left fascists?

My money is on the latter.
I member, once your far left letter-soup crazy communist group gets their third member it is time to split
and the two new factions will fight and hate eachother more than they hate the "capitalists".
 

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This is a good segue into climate stuff. I’m asking everyone this question at the moment, because all the queers I know are existing in a permanent state of eco-dread. Where are you at with climate stuff and how do you cope with it?

God, yeah. The climate crisis! It’s been a f**ker of a few years, for all of us and for queers particularly – especially trans people, with the increasing number of hate crimes, the trans moral panic, Brexit, Trump…

It all feels so interwoven to me alongside climate stuff, where we see governments not caring because it’s impacting the global south so much more. Everything feels all tangled together – gender and climate etc – we just have to recognise now that there’s no way out of it, we kind of have to see it and see it all.
It can feel really big and hopeless. When do we go to self-care and stay safe enough? We have to recognise our limits. How can I weave this stuff through the writing I do, and make it accessible to people? It’s really hard. Communities of support are vital.

I like to write stories about gay animals to take my mind off the hard stuff. Does Dr Meg-John Barker have a favourite gay animal, and do you have a similar strategy you could share?

Yes, it’s vital to have playful strategies! Especially if there’s a version of what you do for your serious work that you can go to for silly stuff. I like writing erotic fan fiction – like, Harry Potter meets Buffy the Vampire Slayer-themed erotic writing.

And, long-eared hedgehogs are my favourite gay animal. The female ones are lesbians, I’m pretty sure. [Dr Meg-John Barker is right – according to the Telegraph, 10 per cent of female long-eared hedgehogs have sex with other females, and apparently the lesbian sex – which includes oral – is “surprisingly sophisticated“.]
 
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Colonial, racist, and patriarchal systems of oppression have created and fueled it.
I don't want to sound like a chest beating Tarzan, but who wants to bet that when it comes to a natural disaster, Men are still going to be required to solve it?

It's always easy to blame Men for everything but never have I actually seen a solution to what happens when you indeed get rid of us.
 

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This is a good segue into climate stuff. I’m asking everyone this question at the moment, because all the queers I know are existing in a permanent state of eco-dread. Where are you at with climate stuff and how do you cope with it?

God, yeah. The climate crisis! It’s been a f**ker of a few years, for all of us and for queers particularly – especially trans people, with the increasing number of hate crimes, the trans moral panic, Brexit, Trump…

It all feels so interwoven to me alongside climate stuff, where we see governments not caring because it’s impacting the global south so much more. Everything feels all tangled together – gender and climate etc – we just have to recognise now that there’s no way out of it, we kind of have to see it and see it all.
It can feel really big and hopeless. When do we go to self-care and stay safe enough? We have to recognise our limits. How can I weave this stuff through the writing I do, and make it accessible to people? It’s really hard. Communities of support are vital.

I like to write stories about gay animals to take my mind off the hard stuff. Does Dr Meg-John Barker have a favourite gay animal, and do you have a similar strategy you could share?

Yes, it’s vital to have playful strategies! Especially if there’s a version of what you do for your serious work that you can go to for silly stuff. I like writing erotic fan fiction – like, Harry Potter meets Buffy the Vampire Slayer-themed erotic writing.

And, long-eared hedgehogs are my favourite gay animal. The female ones are lesbians, I’m pretty sure. [Dr Meg-John Barker is right – according to the Telegraph, 10 per cent of female long-eared hedgehogs have sex with other females, and apparently the lesbian sex – which includes oral – is “surprisingly sophisticated“.]
Made me laugh and is a fair point.

Seems there are indeed two strands of the argument — the actual possible physical instances of climate change, and the people who seek to use climate change issues as a broader desire to alter society.

I'm fairly confident believing more should be down to lower carbon emissions worldwide, but I do still wonder why people go to extremes in convincing themselves of impending doom.

We're all a big negative these days. No wonder there's a mental health epidemic.
 

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Never listen to people who -- after presenting an alarmist viewpoint based on fringe or non-science -- suddenly pivot to an unrelated political stance. It's getting too easy because they try the same tricks that didn't work before and then scream at you for not believing.

 

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So if someone calls another person a faggot does it increase the sea levels and the temperature every time they say it?
You didn't know? Any criticism against an oppressed individual or group causes irreversible climate damage. We must stand together to fight mean words online or it will be the death of us all.
 

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I disagree. I've read somewhere that "what are the drawbacks to at least trying to preserve the planet in which our kids will live in?" How can there be ANYTHING wrong in those feelings? Sign me up for any tax you want.
 
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I think you in the west need a war to clean up your societies.

Too many good years making people crazy
I think the problem is that the internet gave a voice to millions of people who otherwise would have been and should have been ignored by society and let them interact online and organize. See - Antivaxxers, Flat Earthers, Climate Nazis, Collectivists, etc. They are only loud because the silent majority hasn't told them to fuck off yet, presumably because they are scared of being called racist or fascist.
 
"what are the drawbacks to at least trying to preserve the planet in which our kids will live in?" How can there be ANYTHING wrong in those feelings? Sign me up for any tax you want.
The problem is both the first part of that statement "preserve the planet" and the last part "any tax you want".
It's a shitty form of slacktivisim. The solution requires science and forethought, not some tax scheme. Yes people should be encouraged to save energy, recycle when possible but carte blache "tax me because I haven't any other ideas" just reeks of "I trust that the gov't will use my hard earned wages" to magically stop something that is impossible without all countries involvement.
Any climate change tax is just that, a tax, not a deterrent not going to have any impact on the larger issues
 
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DeepEnigma

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The problem is both the first part of that statement "preserve the planet" and the last part "any tax you want".
It's a shitty form of slacktivisim. The solution requires science and forethought, not some tax scheme. Yes people should be encouraged to save energy, recycle when possible but carte blache "tax me because I haven't any other ideas" just reeks of "I trust that the gov't will use my hard earned wages" to magically stop something that is impossible without all countries involvement.
Any climate change tax is just that, a tax, not a deterrent not going to have any impact on the larger issues
Opponents to how the governments were to handle this said they would turn this movement into a tax scheme over a decade ago when Al Gore tried pushing and it flopped, hard. This is round two. Round 3 will be home searches to see if your lifestyle is compliant, citizen.

;)
 
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Only question is
will they merge with antifa
or will they fight them to the death because they are the wrong type of far left fascists?

My money is on the latter.
I member, once your far left letter-soup crazy communist group gets their third member it is time to split
and the two new factions will fight and hate eachother more than they hate the "capitalists".
Her parents are already members of ANTIFA. She's been brain-fed her viewpoints since the very beginning. As a parent myself, it makes me sick to my stomach to think that any parent would use their child as a tool for their own benefit and then rather than protect her, use her as a shield when people try to come down on her and what she represents.
 

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I think the problem is that the internet gave a voice to millions of people who otherwise would have been and should have been ignored by society and let them interact online and organize. See - Antivaxxers, Flat Earthers, Climate Nazis, Collectivists, etc. They are only loud because the silent majority hasn't told them to fuck off yet, presumably because they are scared of being called racist or fascist.
Or they have been banned by the mods.....
 
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My stance is they're not logically connected issues on an objective level.

Folks may want to connect them politically or ideologically, but it's not a requirement.
 
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I'm starting to suspect there may be some truth that Communist factions, disenchanted with the working class, have now turned to enlisting any and all activist groups in an attempt to form some kind of coalition that can enact great social change and seize power in western society. They don't actually care about any of the individual causes, but just want to use everyone to help them tear down the existing systems of society so they can build new ones from the ashes as they see fit.
 
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Why is their endgame of climate change activism always a political revolution? I’ve heard this so often, at this point sending all white people into space sounds like a less crazy idea.
 

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I'm starting to suspect there may be some truth that Communist factions, disenchanted with the working class, have now turned to enlisting any and all activist groups in an attempt to form some kind of coalition that can enact great social change and seize power in western society. They don't actually care about any of the individual causes, but just want to use everyone to help them tear down the existing systems of society so they can build new ones from the ashes as they see fit.
Yes, it’s called intersectional feminism. It’s where all the buzzwords Greta is throwing out come from, e.g. “colonial, racist, patriarchal systems of oppression”. Intersectional feminism aka intersectionality is the cult-like coalition of all the disparate minority political groups trying to overthrow the majority. Eco-fascism is part of it.
 

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I'm starting to suspect there may be some truth that Communist factions, disenchanted with the working class, have now turned to enlisting any and all activist groups in an attempt to form some kind of coalition that can enact great social change and seize power in western society. They don't actually care about any of the individual causes, but just want to use everyone to help them tear down the existing systems of society so they can build new ones from the ashes as they see fit.
Not a controversial view. If you look at much of the left these days they've dropped the class issue almost entirely. The problem is that a person can, if class mobility exists (and it's not as mobile as it should be tbh), move from working class to middle class and thus cease to be the person benefitting from left-wing ideas. Now actually quite often they'll still vote left, but the worry within the left is that if people get too well off they'll stop voting left. This coincided with a guilt-driven invasion of the middle-class who chose to be lefty to be more virtuous, to offset their carbon footprint in a way. The middle-classes seeing an oppportunity to hop on the victimhood train and the ideologues seeing an opportunity to create a class of voters who will vote for them eternally because they can't move out of the victim class. It's genius really, but it means that now the right is the only side caring about the working class (and consider it's mostly them voting for Trump, and in the UK it looks like it's going to be the Northern working classes voting for Boris) - having been thrown to the lions the working class are now an important demographic for the right - to the extent that the people who give a shit about them are going to be the right, not the left. Clown world.
 
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A very good breakdown of the methods being employed to adopt authoritarianism to further agenda - and what it leads to.

Incidentally, the same channel has a chilling range of videos on the entire Evergreen College meltdown (Benjamin Boyce happens to be an Evergreen Alumni) - in other words, he's seen some stuff.
 
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She ate a peanut butter and jelly sandwich for dinner, isn’t that enough?
Please, that’s peasant food.

She rolls around on a sailing yacht owned by the Prince of Morocco that has it registered in Monaco.
 

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A very good breakdown of the methods being employed to adopt authoritarianism to further agenda - and what it leads to.

Incidentally, the same channel has a chilling range of videos on the entire Evergreen College meltdown (Benjamin Boyce happens to be an Evergreen Alumni) - in other words, he's seen some stuff.
 
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what are this 16 year old girls credentials again?
At the age of 14 she figured out how to tie her shoes, and she's half baked with Asperger's Syndrome, so she puts on a good loud show.

With these phenomenal credentials, every eco-warrior has put her on a pedestal to do the dirty work as they are too ashamed to get on stage and yell for attention like Greta, even though you'd think with 1,000s and 1,000s of eco-warriors with experience, you'd think at least one of them would have the balls to scream for attention the past 40 years.

Who knew it took a teenager with odd mannerisms to get clicks.

lol
 
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I actually don't think it's socialism. The reason why the establishment globalist left has raised the problems of climate change and mass migration so highly is because these are transnational problems that cannot be entirely solved by one nation state on its own. After the fall of the Berlin wall and the reorientation of the European Economic Community into the EU, Francis Fukuyama famous declared it to be the "End of History," that all nations would now irreversibly coalesce around the reigme of borderless markets and secular culture. I suppose 9/11 and the way the War on Terror played out showed that this wasn't true. But Brexit and Trump are why these issues are now being raised more desperately than ever. The reason why George Soros proudly trots out spokespersons like Greta is so people will ultimately buy into the ideal that they will need to forfeit their sovereignty and self-determinism if they want to live.

Unfortunately, they are creating some really unstable people with this subterfuge and I wouldn't be surprised if the marxist monsters they've created end up devouring them.